R6Rider
Gold Member
I find it hilarious when rampant cheating on PC games is brought up and it's hand waved away; usually with something like "It's not that rampant".
It's fucking ridiculous and one of the reasons why I don't game on PC as much as on console.
ValiantInstance
Member
There is an unspoken split in the player base about which game mode they prefer.
There's the purists who think if you aren't playing conquest, it's not Battlefield.
Personally rush, or gold rush as it was known back in the Bad Company days, is what got me into Battlefield in the first place. I understand the appeal of large scale battles but for me the best moments on Battlefield are where you're dug in and protecting an objective. Or if you're attacking constantly reviving and resupplying teammates as you chip away metres at a time into those areas.
I also quite enjoyed grand operations in the recent games.
There's the purists who think if you aren't playing conquest, it's not Battlefield.
Personally rush, or gold rush as it was known back in the Bad Company days, is what got me into Battlefield in the first place. I understand the appeal of large scale battles but for me the best moments on Battlefield are where you're dug in and protecting an objective. Or if you're attacking constantly reviving and resupplying teammates as you chip away metres at a time into those areas.
I also quite enjoyed grand operations in the recent games.
Dibils2k
Member
this actually helped alot, thanks
DirtInUrEye
Member
I deliberately type that I'm on a joypad after a match just to wind up the mnk players further down the scoreboard.
NeoLed
Member
Nah, thank you for the advice, but I'll turn crossplay off. Maybe will be on when it's hard to find matches (like the dreaded 2042)
DirtInUrEye
Member
Makes no odds to me either way really mate, I've nothing against DICE wrapping some players in cotton wool a bit if it makes them feel more confident on sports day.
You identify as a peasant and call for apartheid in video games. Nelson Mandela will be rolling in his grave.
Calverz
Gold Member
Just tired the beta after being forced to watch some douche for 30minutes.
Same old Battlefield tbh. Not see how this brings in "more" players. Personally I prefer the World War 2 setting for Battlefield games.
I'll reserve final judgment for the BR/DMZ mode or whatever it is. I really liked Firestorm.
Same old Battlefield tbh. Not see how this brings in "more" players. Personally I prefer the World War 2 setting for Battlefield games.
I'll reserve final judgment for the BR/DMZ mode or whatever it is. I really liked Firestorm.
KeepThemEyesOpen
Member
I love both modes, but I feel like ever since Battlefield 3 Rush has been kind of neglected in favor of Conquest when it comes to map designed IMO. Instead of trying to make rush work for a conquest map, design one that works best for its gameplay. I think that's why I don't bother with it and leaned more towards Operations.
ValiantInstance
Member
All maps should be designed for conquest and then turned into a corridor for rush.
clarky
Gold Member
You'd have to imagine it because they don't.
Antwix
Member
Isn't anticheat supposed to communicate with public TPM keys to determine authenticity? I haven't really kept up on anticheat stuff but wouldn't the mb/CPU be banned after this? I know hwid spoofing is easy but TPM is a bit of a different animal
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clarky
Gold Member
Read that as "Drag and Drive" and thought, huh didn't think it was out yet but this dudes standards are really dropping.
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
mayham2199
Member
Was there any doubt there wouldn't be cheating? There's always cheating on the PC side.
GudOlRub
Member
I'm a purist as in you can either balance these games for Rush or Conquest, you can't have both, have the cake and eat it too.
Conquest in Bad Company 2 was garbage, Rush was the best Battlefield experience I've had.
Meanwhile BF3 and BF4 mostly sucked balls on Rush but were great conquest BFs.
Either they make different maps for these modes or else I know one of those modes will be terrible on said maps.
Breakthrough, Frontlines and Operations are similar enough so they all can work well on the same map. Conquest is a whole different beast.
I'd rather be playing Breakthrough in this Beta than Conquest tbh but I'm even more purist about the classes so DICE can go fuck themselves.
I am enjoying the Beta but it hasn't convinced me to buy. They're being way too pushy with this bullshit for my liking.
This guy is a fucking idiot.
While yes its true that the secure boot requirement is needless and stupid, it has nothing to do with updating anything or even coding (I know its a shitty attempt at being funny). You have to disable secure boot, load the default keys, and then re-enable it. It takes like 5 minutes on any modern motherboard. If you can't handle doing that I don't know why the fuck you're gaming on PC.
DirtInUrEye
Member
Nah, I love motion blur and a good post processing pipeline tho. Battlefield is always a spectacle, so I max everything out for the Hollywood factor. At most I'll disable aberration and vignette.
Facism
Gold Member
Recon is useful on every map rn. Spawn beacon, motion sensor, carbine and a uav. Turned around 2 cq matches running an aggressive recon kit and the uav is basically permanent when you're capping and assistingCan you blame them? Only map so far where recon is actually useful
HeisenbergFX4
Member
The flip side of that are the people on this very forum that say PC gaming is almost as easy as console gaming and being 100% honest I had to find a guide posted here on how to turn on secure boot on my own PC
winjer
Member
Concord.
Sure you may need a guide to know what to do, but again it's not difficult to actually do in the slightest.
Anyone acting like PC gaming is as easy as console gaming is being rediculous though, it's not. There's always technical bullshit to DIY.
Arachnid
Member
Yep. Literally the only reason I understand all this secure boot/UEFI/TPM/BIOS nonsense is because I built my PC months ago and had to figure it out because I was too stubborn to take my parts to some builder. I sure as hell didn't understand any of that before, and it was trial by fire.
No way in hell I'd look down on the average person for not understanding this stuff. Yes, it's complicated to anyone who isn't a techy.
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Alpha Male
Member
I'm having a blast and that's all that matters. I definitely have some issues and nitpicks but overall I'm very happy so far. I have much to say but will wait until after the beta is over.
There is nothing in gaming like the gameplay + atmosphere in Battlefield and this game has it nailed!
There is nothing in gaming like the gameplay + atmosphere in Battlefield and this game has it nailed!
Sardaukarama
Member
This!..Defense and breakthrough All I need now is the As-val
Their mathing on your damage upon death tickles me
Personally I'm having a good time in the beta so they will get my cash on Oct 9th ,I do not think the phantom edition is worth it though but I'll buy the map packs all day long
Only thing I activated was safe boot... tpm and all the other stuff is still turned off
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Luipadre
Member
Cheaters will always be present in online gaming, it is what it is. Im loving the game and definitely buying it day 1. As i said i just need bigger maps and we all good. Lots of my old BF buddies likes it aswell. Imo the combat and movement is fucking good and even when our team gets destroyed, i still had a fantastic time, because of the epic moments. Drag and revive makes every round cinematic
KeepThemEyesOpen
Member
I don't think it's that simple. Golmud Railway from Battlefield 4 for example, a map designed for conquest is terrible in Rush. Wake Island in Battlefield 3, that's another terrible one. I'm not saying it hasn't worked, I'm sure you can give me an example but quality wise it's inconsistent. When it comes to levels designed around Rush, the best ones are behind us. IMO nothing can compete with Oasis and Harvest Day from BC1.
GamesDontSuck
Member
I am enjoying it.
But getting tired of being killed from one or two shots, yet when I am shooting at someone else, I can off load a clip. It's like I am shooting bubbles at them.
But getting tired of being killed from one or two shots, yet when I am shooting at someone else, I can off load a clip. It's like I am shooting bubbles at them.
Fake
Member
I can. The competiton tried to push this ideia of crossplay. Stop being so fucking defensive 100% of the time dude.
Not that kinda of cheaters.
When I see this as Support, I love to mess with them by sending hot led downfield for 10 seconds with my scoped LMG. Even if I don't kill them, watching their little lights go dark is hilarious.
clarky
Gold Member
Defensive about what? You seemed to imply you couldn't turn cross play off. You can and you can in in COD as well, if thats what you were referring to.
Not batting for anyone here.
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Fake
Member
Just until the server got real people. I'm of course against playing bots unless you can fight bots offline, but is a little odd seeing people posting high numbers and servers full, queue, but are you really find any bots even with all those people playing?
cormack12
Gold Member
I read of you play the initiation modes they are 50% bots all the time. Is that not true?
clarky
Gold Member
It is.
Edit: Just double checked, its 15 players on breakthrough initiation and the rest are bots. There are no bots in the main modes, although the way some people play you wouldn't know.
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Fake
Member
The bots are there until the server is full with players I guess. I remember Gears of War 3 doing something similar.
Mayar
Member
I don't think so, there are of course completely inadequate people who buy hacks for the Beta version, but there are few of them. Here, most likely, the manufacturers themselves are testing their software before the release. Question is more about the security of the game itself, and how quickly everything was hacked.
Regarding bots, they simply take up free space if there is any. Here you need to understand that this is Beta, and the aglogrythm of filling squads with Bots, on release may be very different from what it is now. Right now they just need to quickly fill the maps with players, for testing.
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DirtInUrEye
Member
Sometimes it feels like I must be the only PC gamer in existence who after playing hundreds of combined hours of online fps over the years can't recall the last time I encountered a particularly noticeable cheater, or at least one who was ruining my own experience. People are always quick to shit the bed over this stuff and video examples are always at hand as if to demonstrate a plague that is supposed to represent how a game will play out for every player on the platform, but I reckon it's just more of the usual over exaggerating hyperbolic bollocks really. Stop joining Chinese servers or something, would be my first suggestion. For the vast majority of players on PC, PLENTY of fps experiences (including BF) work just fine, hence their enormous mainstream success, what a shocker.
G-DannY
Member
i mean... game is good. great at times.
but i'm having flashbacks from peak BF4 with premium... when you started to play on a server at 10pm and keeping playing on the same server you got the same map not before 6am (kinda).
that's what I dream for BF6. even if now I have 1/10th of the time to play...
hopefully
but i'm having flashbacks from peak BF4 with premium... when you started to play on a server at 10pm and keeping playing on the same server you got the same map not before 6am (kinda).
that's what I dream for BF6. even if now I have 1/10th of the time to play...
hopefully
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geary
Member
Are those bonfires from Lord of the Ring?Can you blame them? Only map so far where recon is actually useful
geary
Member
If the tech skills required to play on console/pc in 2025 would be difficulty sliders from games, console would be "Very Easy" and PC would be "Easy". All gamers should have the skills to play on "Normal".
Lorianus
Member
It just exposes the general tech illiteracy of the post millenial generation, the people that had their childhoods in the 2010s often grew up with a smartphone and a tablet and those guys often struggle with simple Microsoft Office Suite programs.
Also the general downspiral in personal problem solving and attention spans, most pc problems are one 5 minute google search away from a solution.
True, some people blame the boogeyman when they have a bad game. But that doesn't mean cheating is not prevalent on PC.
Like yesterday, I unloaded on some dude first and he killed me even though I got the jump on him. Fine, whatever, ROF on weapons, better aiming and recoil control, or just my reflexes are not what they used to be, etc. But then as I'm waiting for a revive two other of my teammates unload on him and he kills them BOTH and just sits there crouched on the flag. No way health regeneration had started. I check the scorecard and of course he's like 40-1 or something like that.
Look, I don't know if he was cheating or not, but I will say that I only ever see shit like this on PC, never on console.
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DirtInUrEye
Member
Probably Enders or someone, there are gifted players on PC who just effortlessly run rings around everybody and never seem to die in 1v1s.
