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Bayonetta 2 |OT| The time has come, and so have Wii!
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It's competitive, not cooperative. It's like they made the bastard child of coop and competitive online by taking the worst parts of both.
the main game is goddamn incredible, though
Zomba13
Member
NOPE.
It's both. You have to work together to beat the verse or no one gets a reward. You have to beat your team mates score to get the bonus which the verse picker wagered halos on. It's best to not care about the competitive bits because if you want to win and get halos you are infinitely better off playing with a gimped CPU and farming halos in games you win all the time. When playing with another person a win is a bonus and lets you pick the next stage but the only way to truly lose is to get beaten and kicked out with no rewards. Work together and fight some intense 3 star fights. Climax together as one.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Im using the Nyko pro commander but I dunno if I can recommend it it of you cant get it for cheap. It has the perfect layout but it has a few reliability issues. It sometimes drops imputs and for some reason mine refuse to turn on unless its plugged in.
It's such a good game! The learning curve is pretty steep at the start, but once things start clicking, it's a blast.
Various Artists
Banned
Had to drop it from 3rd climax to 2nd. I was rly good at Bayo 1 but starting with nothing proved too hard.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I feel like when you start saying "The game developers were lazy because they didn't think of this idea I had" and don't consider that, maybe, they have had that idea and deemed it bad, you've lost a lot of perspective.
Did they do something to the Moon of Mahar Kalaa? I remember it being my favorite item in Bayonetta 1 and feeling so good mastering it and maybe I'm out of practice but 4 chapters in and nothing but stone after stone for dying minimum 3 times each chapter.
I just can't get it to work properly at all, and sometimes even when I'm facing the enemy (or their attack) I don't get it.
I got mad and took it off only to realize Jeanne doesn't even have normal witch time only crow within.
I might just end up playing Bayo because this item is just no longer as fun as it was. I'm going to pop in a playthrough of the first game soon and once I get to that I'll use it again and see if I really just got rusty but I never had as many problems as I did with this one.
Chapter 3 is just a fucking nightmare. 3rd try now.
EDIT: Giving up and just playing bayo. 3rd chapter has that angel boss fight and sometimes he'll shake off some golden feathers that sit there for a second before attacking you making it really easy to counter right? Well I do that and it comes in two waves. Sometimes I counter both, sometimes I only counter one despite doing the same motion at the same speed and memorizing the times exactly. Fuck it, I'm dodging. More fun.
I just can't get it to work properly at all, and sometimes even when I'm facing the enemy (or their attack) I don't get it.
I got mad and took it off only to realize Jeanne doesn't even have normal witch time only crow within.
I might just end up playing Bayo because this item is just no longer as fun as it was. I'm going to pop in a playthrough of the first game soon and once I get to that I'll use it again and see if I really just got rusty but I never had as many problems as I did with this one.
Chapter 3 is just a fucking nightmare. 3rd try now.
EDIT: Giving up and just playing bayo. 3rd chapter has that angel boss fight and sometimes he'll shake off some golden feathers that sit there for a second before attacking you making it really easy to counter right? Well I do that and it comes in two waves. Sometimes I counter both, sometimes I only counter one despite doing the same motion at the same speed and memorizing the times exactly. Fuck it, I'm dodging. More fun.
No, it's bad. I'm fighting the other person so doing good while they're alive objectively hurts me. I can beat the levels by myself so it's best to stand in the back and wait for the other guy to die so I win no matter what. It doesn't reward me for cooperating and it doesn't reward me for competing unless the other player is dead.
Edit: having the score based solely in combos is bad design.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
So fucking worth it to complete the game; best ending sequence ever.
Saint Gregory
Member
Are you trying to platinum it? I set it aside for now and just settled for gold.
Every time I'd get the combo or time requirement for platinum I'd get hit once and lose my platinum for damage. So frustrating
Oh. Just get that attack pattern down. The trickiest is the timing for the beak snap attack but he'll turn red before the multiple swipe attack. Get trigger happy on that dodge trigger.
Edit: Oh, I saw your edit. Trying to parry everything? Brave man.
Are you trying to platinum it? I set it aside for now and just settled for gold.
Every time I'd get the combo or time requirement for platinum I'd get hit once and lose my platinum for damage. So frustrating
I'm just trying to beat it.
Are you trying to platinum it? I set it aside for now and just settled for gold.
Every time I'd get the combo or time requirement for platinum I'd get hit once and lose my platinum for damage. So frustrating
Oh. Just get that attack pattern down. The trickiest is the timing for the beak snap attack but he'll turn red before the multiple swipe attack. Get trigger happy on that dodge trigger.
My frustration is with the Moon of Mahar Kalaa. Like I said before I've gotten one of his animations down packed and the others mostly understood yet I keep taking damage to the death. Even his easy to read moves get me.
I'm doing it right now with Bayonetta and am mostly wiping the floor with him, I expect a gold or platinum depending on how much the game screws me because of the surfing section =/
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Guys
Guys.
I just had the first fight with the Lumen sage
Guys
Guys
Guys
That was the hypest thing I have ever experienced.
It was a true rival battle.
Guys.
I just had the first fight with the Lumen sage
Guys
Guys
Guys
That was the hypest thing I have ever experienced.
It was a true rival battle.
Saint Gregory
Member
Color coded? What did I miss? I've only seen the enemies go into their angry red state.
Net_Wrecker
Member
This game is amazing but I haven't been able to play more than an hour at a time since Friday
Everyone needs to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crbFmpezO4A#t=1m11s
Everyone needs to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crbFmpezO4A#t=1m11s
Yeah, all of his moves are easy to dodge except that damn bite move. I easily avoided every attack except where he lunges out to bite. He did that 5 times a row and I couldn't even dodge once!
On the brightside this will be my non-first stone for climax 3. Maybe the maha kalaa item has a much smaller window of opportunity on jean? I'll put it on bayonetta and see how it works with her but it certainly felt much higher in the first game.
Also are there any more playable characters? Or are they only for tag climax?
On the brightside this will be my non-first stone for climax 3. Maybe the maha kalaa item has a much smaller window of opportunity on jean? I'll put it on bayonetta and see how it works with her but it certainly felt much higher in the first game.
Also are there any more playable characters? Or are they only for tag climax?
Booker Dewitt
Member
Jesus christ at Chapter IV. The one before it was pretty cool, but fuck that just ratcheted up the game to another level.
PensivePen
Member
just unlockedin Tag Climax and wow he is extremely fun to play as! Wish I could play through the story as him thoughBalder
It would have been really nice if him and
Rodin
Zomba13
Member
Don't play it as a competitive mode, play it to have fun beating the enemies and bosses of the game with another person. If you want halos do it with the CPU, if you just want to be the best like no one ever was then pick better weapons and do better or else don't play it. Just because it has a competitive aspect doesn't mean it has to be played with that mentality. I couldn't give any fucks if I "lose" a round or a game because I'm playing Bayonetta with another human being, doing sick combos, fighting giant enemies or having intense 2 on 1 (or 2 on 2) duels.
If you have to treat it like a competition and losing isn't fun to you and ruins the mode then I dunno what else to say.
just finished the game. End boss was
Also unlocked
for my legs. Oh god. It wrecks everything too.
kind of an asshole and didn't quite reach the hype levels of the first game. Although the fight itself was more interesting - I can't really complain about more 'Rival' style bosses.
Also unlocked
A FUCKING CHAIN CHOMP
Someone wanted color coded enemies on Bayo. Like DmC enemies you only can kill with Light weapons and some just with Dark weapons. It was terrible on DmC limiting the combat and it would suck too on Bayo.
Sometimes people should realize that some things are better left untouched than fucking em up.
Fimbulvetr
Member
I couldn't tell if he was purposefully mentioning an idea that appeared in DmC in order to get a rise out of people, or if he really just wanted P* to implement his bad ideas.
And, I mean, anyone could tell you why his other idea of implementing the Nemesis system was a horrible one. These suggestions are too bad to be genuine.
Saint Gregory
Member
Oh god no. Who even like that crap in DmC???
Beat this game today! Beat Bayo 1 for the first time on Saturday too.
... I think I need a break from games for a while
Definitely my GOTY - although I don't really remember what else came out this year. Mario Kart?
Loved everything about this game. Combat was super satisfying, especially with the detailed animations. Game was a lot more colourful feeling than the first as well. Soundtrack was pretty good too.
mild ending spoilers for this and w101:
... I think I need a break from games for a while
Definitely my GOTY - although I don't really remember what else came out this year. Mario Kart?
Loved everything about this game. Combat was super satisfying, especially with the detailed animations. Game was a lot more colourful feeling than the first as well. Soundtrack was pretty good too.
mild ending spoilers for this and w101:
I think I remember reading that the Bayo 2 team and the w101 team were competing on who could make the hypest ending boss fight. IMO w101 takes the cake easily
color-coded enemies only serve to limit the amount of weapons players can use and thus limit the freedom and creativity of the combo system. It completely ruins Bayonetta 2 on a most basic and fundamental level.
And are you saying the enemies are total pushovers? Sure there are no Grace & Glories types in this game (good god) but the enemies wreck shit up.
And are you saying the enemies are total pushovers? Sure there are no Grace & Glories types in this game (good god) but the enemies wreck shit up.
Christberg
Member
Yeah... no, thank you.
The game has perfect core mechanics as is. Basically as far as I'm concerned they can keep cranking these out as much as they want
Just finished a really sweet boss fight in hell. Game has its hooks in me like nothing has in a really long time.
Gonna finish the main story up here probably tomorrow, after that it's unlocking everything and Tag Climax time. I'm a mediocre player but if anybody wants to hit me up, my NNID is the same as my GAF ID.
So much fun to play as that character. And the wolf form makes me want a new Okami,just unlockedin Tag Climax and wow he is extremely fun to play as! Wish I could play through the story as him thoughBalder
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I haven't played far but I get this impression as well since I just beat Bayo 1 before starting this one and it seems easier but maybe because I know not to mess around.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
It helps that you already played the first game and this is pretty much the same thing, but also 2nd Climax is like, Kids Mode from Viewtiful Joe or some shit. 3rd Climax is the perfect difficulty.
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
You have to use it at the weapon select screen by pressing y
It really felt like the demo was on the easiest setting possible, but I went right to 3rd so I'm not positive on that.
I've died once, and that's because I refused to use a healing item out of pride. I kinda want to ramp it up to 3rd, but I feel like I'd get frustrated. The difficulty is hard enough to be satisfying, I think. I'll up it for the 2nd play through.
Edit: Also, I hate getting bronze, so 2nd climax it is.
Oh, does it only work on default clothing? It didn't work when I was wearing a costume and it works now on default. Man what a waste of 30k these things suck.
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
Yea I think so. The costume i got was for the raksasha and it was pretty coo
DownWithTheShip
Member
Having a blast with the game, but i'm having trouble consistently performing the moves. It seems like it's all luck at this point.
How exactly do I perform an attack sequence? For example say it says to do a punch, punch, punch, dot, kick (it looks like a dot, so i'm calling it a dot). How does that translate to what I do with the controller?
How exactly do I perform an attack sequence? For example say it says to do a punch, punch, punch, dot, kick (it looks like a dot, so i'm calling it a dot). How does that translate to what I do with the controller?
Christberg
Member
Yep. They're pretty dumb. Gotta spend the big bucks at 100K per costume to get the good ones.
MissDeviling
Member
Both my sister and I play Bayonetta, so it's disappointing there's no local coop (I think, not at home to check).
The "dot" is a pause in the combo. So, PPP-quick pause-K