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Bayonetta 2 |OT| The time has come, and so have Wii!

K-A-Deman

Member
Just unlocked
Balder
in Tag Climax after retrying the verse with
Rosa and Balder
. Still working on finding
Rodin
for the THIRD time...
 

Squishy3

Member
1. Sloths are a fucking nightmare. WTF
2. Love bayonetta quotting wonder red.
"Well, you could say dimplomacy has failed"
lol
3.OMG Salamanders best weapon ever. The whips with the hammer are really cool too. Now I feel im on my groove.

And off to sleep, tomorrow is mine more.
Rodin says it too sometimes when you enter the shop.
 

Alfredo

Member
I honestly don't understand why Bayonnetta 1 controls the way it does on the Wii U, other than trying to keep it faithful with the original button layout.

It seems like if they just switched the "Change Weapon" and "Lock-On" buttons like it does with Bayonetta 2, it'd be a lot better.
 
I liked the ending, but I agree it did feel more subdued and had less of a final build-up. However, the chapters leading up to it were great.
May have partly been because someone told me previous game enemies didn't show up in the sequel, I was just excited to fight against Grace & Glory again. Wish you could fight a Joy again, though.

1. Sloths are a fucking nightmare. WTF
2. Love bayonetta quotting wonder red.
"Well, you could say dimplomacy has failed"
lol
3.OMG Salamanders best weapon ever. The whips with the hammer are really cool too. Now I feel im on my groove.

And off to sleep, tomorrow is mine more.

For real, fighting Sloth was the only time I got frustrated like I did on the original. Wanna go practice on them til I get good.
 

Neoweee

Member
I take back every kind thing I said about Bayonetta 2's vehicle levels relative to other Platinum games. The Loki section in Chapter 5 on Infinite Climax becomes the single worst sequence of one-hit-death QTEs of any Platinum game. The timing and positioning for avoiding the hits seems almost completely arbitrary.
 
finished witch trial IV and tried out V, holy shit its goddamn hard. I think I'm going to take a break from these trials for awhile.

Any one up for tag climax?
 

popyea

Member
Found a great video guide that explains the scoring system and gives insight into the type of thinking required for Pure Platinum runs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smKojt_XMzw

The uploader is like Saur, in that he's been analysing action games and dissecting their mechanics since the genre emerged. Usually he does written analysis though on his development blog.
 
Found a great video guide that explains the scoring system and gives insight into the type of thinking required for Pure Platinum runs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smKojt_XMzw

The uploader is like Saur, in that he's been analysing action games and dissecting their mechanics since the genre emerged. Usually he does written analysis though on his development blog.

Ben Ruiz is a good guy, with a real appreciation for the beat'em'up genre/character action games. He's working on a game, Aztez, for next year and it looks pretty sharp.

brutality.gif
 

Bulzeeb

Member
I finally got the game, I am thinking about playing Bayo 1 > W101 (I have the game since day 1 but I haven't really played it yet) > Bayo 2

But I am not sure if I should go for Bayo 2 sooner than expected due to the multiplayer part because I heard there are some kind of unlockables and I think that by the end of december or probably January the miltiplayer will be kinda empty
 

Hypron

Member
Ben Ruiz is a good guy, with a real appreciation for the beat'em'up genre/character action games. He's working on a game, Aztez, for next year and it looks pretty sharp.

brutality.gif

I played that game for 10 minutes a couple of weeks ago at a conference. It's quite fun, although it seems to be the kind of game that you need to play for more than 10 minutes to get a good handle of.
 
Pretty disappointed they flubbed the ending. The game played much better than the first, and the escalation did a great job building up higher and higher, only to have an ending that was a much worse, nonsensical
Queen Sheba is the combination of you and Balder?
version of the first ending. I kept expecting one more boss fight, or an extra chapter, or even the extra
Rodin
fight to include one extra push, but no... nothing but a buzzkill in the momentum.

No real explanation about the
changes
in hair. When the art was first released, I thought that was going to be a major plot point.

BUT, Also what an complete tease with
Madama Butterfly
! Chances are at an all time low, but I'd looooooove for Bayonetta 3 to go head first into that.
 

Monocle

Member
Found a great video guide that explains the scoring system and gives insight into the type of thinking required for Pure Platinum runs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smKojt_XMzw

The uploader is like Saur, in that he's been analysing action games and dissecting their mechanics since the genre emerged. Usually he does written analysis though on his development blog.
Ben Ruiz is a good guy, with a real appreciation for the beat'em'up genre/character action games. He's working on a game, Aztez, for next year and it looks pretty sharp.

brutality.gif
Good stuff. I think Saur previewed that game on his channel. Looked fun.
 
Wanting to play the game again through with Japanese VA/3rd Climax - am deciding whether to play as
Jeanne
or
Bayonetta in her original costume
. This is a harder decision than I thought.

Also, just to confirm you can only play as
Jeanne & Bayonetta
in story mode, right?
 
Wanting to play the game again through with Japanese VA/3rd Climax - am deciding whether to play as
Jeanne
or
Bayonetta in her original costume
. This is a harder decision than I thought.

Also, just to confirm you can only play as
Jeanne & Bayonetta
in story mode, right?

You can also use Rosa, and that's about it.
 

Squishy3

Member
Wanting to play the game again through with Japanese VA/3rd Climax - am deciding whether to play as
Jeanne
or
Bayonetta in her original costume
. This is a harder decision than I thought.

Also, just to confirm you can only play as
Jeanne & Bayonetta
in story mode, right?
You unlock another character after beating 3rd Climax that is playable in story mode, I believe.
 
Wanting to play the game again through with Japanese VA/3rd Climax - am deciding whether to play as
Jeanne
or
Bayonetta in her original costume
. This is a harder decision than I thought.

Also, just to confirm you can only play as
Jeanne & Bayonetta
in story mode, right?

I would point out that it is fair to say
you can only play as Bayonetta in story mode when I played as Jeanne it felt more like Bayonetta cosplaying as Jeanne because none was fooled they all called her by her name
lol
 
You can also use Rose, and that's about it.

You unlock another character after beating 3rd Climax that is playable in story mode, I believe.

Oh, cool. I knew they were playable in Tag Climax, but it's cool to know they're available for story mode too.

Rosa plays like the 1st games' Bayonetta, right? And Rodin and Balder are only for Tag Climax mode, then, right?

I would point out that it is fair to say
you can only play as Bayonetta in story mode when I played as Jeanne it felt more like Bayonetta cosplaying as Jeanne because none was fooled they all called her by her name
lol

Haha, it's actually the thing that's making me lean to my other choice.
 

popyea

Member
Then you haven't beaten all story Chapters on 3rd Climax.

In the results page I've got a statue in every slot available in the 3rd climax row
(up to chapter 16)
. Does it require the
Lost Chapters
be complete too? I haven't started that yet.

Edit: Nvm, I have unlocked
Rosa
. I remembered it telling me I had unlocked
Jeanne, but didn't remember Rosa.
 

Rnr1224

Member
Fuck... just found out i'm only missing one witch heart piece and I can't find it for the life of me. I've completed all muspelheims and opened up any that were in chests. The only possible places that I thought it could be would be in the umbran resting places. I haven't gotten the bewitchment for all of them so I suppose I will try doing them all again. Thought I completed all of the ones I saw on my first run but I may have missed one I guess. Oh well...
 

Bombless

Member
In the results page I've got a statue in every slot available in the 3rd climax row
(up to chapter 16)
. Does it require the
Lost Chapters
be complete too? I haven't started that yet.

Nope, those aren't required. Are you sure
she isn't available
?
 
In the results page I've got a statue in every slot available in the 3rd climax row
(up to chapter 16)
. Does it require the
Lost Chapters
be complete too? I haven't started that yet.

I got all the statues in 3rd max and unlocked Rosa. Lost Chapters aren't required.
 

Coda

Member
Who's everyone's favorite character to play as?

My favorite character in general is Jeanne but I seriously can never get witch time with her so in terms of just playing Bayonetta really is the most well rounded. Rosa is super fun at first with that crazy damage but not being able to use any other weapons is kinda boring.
 
Oh, cool. I knew they were playable in Tag Climax, but it's cool to know they're available for story mode too.

Rosa plays like the 1st games' Bayonetta, right? And Rodin and Balder are only for Tag Climax mode, then, right?

Correct. However Rosa is limited to one weapon and takes massive damage like King Zero in Bayo 1. She herself does a lot of damage as well and has a BayoMecha as an Umbran Climax

Who's everyone's favorite character to play as?

My favorite character in general is Jeanne but I seriously can never get witch time with her.

The exact same, the struggle is real.
 

Coda

Member
Correct. However Rosa is limited to one weapon and takes massive damage like King Zero in Bayo 1. She herself does a lot of damage as well and has a BayoMecha as an Umbran Climax



The exact same, the struggle is real.

So real. I wish they just made her movement speed quicker or something like that. It's really a shame because I nail witch time so often when playing as Bayonetta.

Also didn't know if you people noticed but it's quite amazing how the sound effects for both Bayonetta's and Jeanne's Star Fox costumes are different between the two (such as the item pickup sound: one is the laser pickup sound and one is the bomb pickup sound). I was amazed that they went that far with it, it was a really nice touch.
 
Who's everyone's favorite character to play as?

My favorite character in general is Jeanne but I seriously can never get witch time with her so in terms of just playing Bayonetta really is the most well rounded. Rosa is super fun at first with that crazy damage but not being able to use any other weapons is kinda boring.

Bayonetta. Though I do want to play as Jeanne too, but getting her Moth Within to activate at the last second from enemies' attack can be frustrating.
 
Kinda weird, but I went back to Legend of Korra for a couple of days to polish off the last couple of Trophies before I lose my muscle memory, and I realise how little use I have for analogue triggers on a controller. Trying to double tap R2 on a Dualshock 4 to ride Korra's Air Scooter is a spongey mess compared to a quick and easy double tap on ZR for Panther Mode.

The Wii U controller's a welcome return to the glorious PS2 golden era, when Capcom was pumping out amazing action games all the time and controllers just had muhfuckin' buttons on them. Buttons: they're pretty good.
 

Revven

Member
Wowwww, I had to stop at Chapter 14 tonight.

That third Lumen sage fight, though. Not as amazing of a spectacle as the first and second ones but goddamn was it kinda hard. However, I learned to parry a few of his attacks which led to me having a ton of success on him. Too bad I died like... four times because I wasn't used to his attacks. These fights with him give me such an adrenaline rush, it's nuts. Nothing else like it, to be honest. The Jeanne fights in the first Bayo don't even hold a candle to the Lumen Sage fights in this game, IMO.

That said, the fight vs the demon queen (I forget her name atm) was also kinda exhilarating. Too bad on phase 2 I had to resort to the Kafka, I really didn't want to have to deal with her stupid close range grab thing... I just HATE wiggle the stick nonsense so I played a keepaway game with her. Took a couple of tries but it was so much safer and better by far than going close quarter combat.

Also also, the whip is a godlike weapon for crowd control. And the saw blades are fucking hype as hell, oh my god. I love the weapon variety, it's awesome. That's about all I can say so far until I finish my first playthrough which will likely be tomorrow.
 

antitrop

Member
bayonetta 2 - should I go with the max difficulty for my first run? I just finished the first game on normal.

Yes, absolutely. Bayonetta 2 is a far more "fair" game, coming right off of 1, you'll notice a rather drastic difference in some aspects of the difficulty curve.
 

Neiteio

Member
I feel like I've been in a time warp.

Last night, I beat Bayonetta 1 and started Bayonetta 2.

Thirteen hours later, I've beat Bayonetta 2 and replayed about half of it, going back for the LPs I missed, buying costumes, etc. And I'm far, far, far from tired of it.

Bayonetta 2 is now my Game of the Year, dethroning Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze and Shovel Knight (which were more or less tied in my eyes, shifting places based on my mood). This has clearly usurped both titles.

When you consider Bayonetta 1 is included in the package, the value of this $60 package is without peer.

I don't even know how to put into words how much this game impressed me. I'll need to collect my thoughts.

Just WOW.

Also, it's amazing how superior this game is to Bayonetta 1, simply on the strength of removing Kamiya's worst tendencies (I.E. insta-kill QTEs, poor pacing, half-baked minigames, etc).

I wonder what a TW101 sequel would be like helmed by someone other than Kamiya...
 

Neiteio

Member
The gallery mode you unlock post-game is fantastic, as per the first game. I couldn't help but upload some 720p screens via abload.de:

I'll be vague to avoid spoilers:


A certain demoness from the underworld (name:
Alraune
):


http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_01y3s7e.jpg

http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_0159s60.jpg

http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_01n8sjh.jpg

http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_01v2szi.jpg


A huge stingray-like demon (name:
Insidious
):


http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_01qvso3.jpg

http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_012bszt.jpg


A demon summon with many legs (name:
Scolopendra
):


http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_010xs4o.jpg

http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_01ykp3g.jpg


An angel that is "resplendent" (name:
Resplendence!
):


http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_01topgk.jpg

http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_013iqkm.jpg
 

K-A-Deman

Member
The gallery mode you unlock post-game is fantastic, as per the first game. I couldn't help but upload some 720p screens via abload.de:

I'll be vague to avoid spoilers:


A certain demoness from the underworld (name:
Alraune
):


http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_01y3s7e.jpg

http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_0159s60.jpg

http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_01n8sjh.jpg

http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_01v2szi.jpg


A huge stingray-like demon (name:
Insidious
):


http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_01qvso3.jpg

http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_012bszt.jpg


A demon summon with many legs (name:
Scolopendra
):


http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_010xs4o.jpg

http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_01ykp3g.jpg


An angel that is "resplendent" (name:
Resplendence!
):


http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_01topgk.jpg

http://abload.de/img/wiiu_screenshot_tv_013iqkm.jpg

I really think that Bayonetta's enemy designs are among my favorite in any video game, or really any series entirely. the designs of the
Resplendence and Worships
just WORK with what they're trying to convey.

Kinda sad we didn't get more time in the Witch Hunts tearing apart the Angel armada.
 

Monocle

Member
Fuck... just found out i'm only missing one witch heart piece and I can't find it for the life of me. I've completed all muspelheims and opened up any that were in chests. The only possible places that I thought it could be would be in the umbran resting places. I haven't gotten the bewitchment for all of them so I suppose I will try doing them all again. Thought I completed all of the ones I saw on my first run but I may have missed one I guess. Oh well...
There's one in Chapter 8
the first time (I think) you fly toward the Gates of Hell and hit those green containers. The red one to the left contains a heart piece. If you can't find it, you already got it.
. Another tricky one is in Chapter 10
when you're falling past the giant centipedes. It's in the center of the centipede column near the end of the sequence
.

In both cases you should look for the checkpoint before the sequence (you'll see "saving" in the bottom right corner of the screen), quit to the title screen, duplicate the save, then continue. If you miss the piece you're after, quit to the title screen, overwrite your latest save with the older save, then try again.
 

Neiteio

Member
There's one in Chapter 8
the first time you fly toward the Gates of Hell and hit those green containers. The red one to the left contains a heart piece. If you can't find it, you already got it.
. Another tricky one is in Chapter 10
when you're falling past the giant centipedes. It's in the center of the centipede column near the end of the sequence
.

In both cases you should look for the checkpoint before the sequence (you'll see "saving" in the bottom right corner of the screen), quit to the title screen, duplicate the save, then continue. If you miss the piece you're after, quit to the title screen, overwrite your latest save with the older save, then try again.
Not sure that checkpoint trick is necessary in Chapter 10, since the part you described is right at the start of the chapter, IIRC
 
My Wii U just got back from repair. Piece of shit broke the day before Bayo came out but that doesn't matter now. All my games and save data and shit is gone but I don't give a fuck

My hands are shaking brehs
 
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