Net_Wrecker
Member
The vehicle stages are like 20 minutes combined of a 12-16 hour first playthrough. Yes they feel too long, but let's not carried away now.
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Augemitbutter
Member
they could have made it a bit shorter or add more regular fighting on the rocket, might have helped some people getting through it.
i know why some people don't like this stuff, but others have enjoyed it.
i know why some people don't like this stuff, but others have enjoyed it.
Giolon said:Durga in fire mode can hit flaming enemies w/o penalty.(and it will let you walk on lava/fire while on your feet. Odette does this as well.)
It doesn't.
The walking on lava, yeah, but you still take damage as usual unless the fire effect is hitting them without you actually making contact. I don't understand why they DON'T damage them. It's why I said I use the whip on them, you can safely attack them, with the durga she moves forward a lot. I don't know how else to properly fight them, so that got pretty old.
friskykillface
Banned
i'm new to Bayonetta, just played the demo tonight. Great action and was fun, too bad i have a ton of back log games to play but i'll def pick this up in a couple of months
Yeah, the trailer for the strategy guide is insane -- 720P version on YouTube
The first 60 seconds are incredible.....she just launches one of those huge dudes and he never lands -- at least 45 seconds are spent in an air juggle that doesn't end until the guy is dead. I've put in 20 hours and I have no idea how I'd do something like that. I don't know how it is she manages to maintain elevation, why the enemy doesn't snap out of it, how she manages to do that blazing jumpkick 3-4 times. If the enemy didn't die I wonder if the combo could have just continued indefinitely?
Obviously it's a little ridiculous of them to promise you Pure Platinums on every stage at every difficulty, but if I can be taught to play half as good as in the video I'll be happy.
The first 60 seconds are incredible.....she just launches one of those huge dudes and he never lands -- at least 45 seconds are spent in an air juggle that doesn't end until the guy is dead. I've put in 20 hours and I have no idea how I'd do something like that. I don't know how it is she manages to maintain elevation, why the enemy doesn't snap out of it, how she manages to do that blazing jumpkick 3-4 times. If the enemy didn't die I wonder if the combo could have just continued indefinitely?
Obviously it's a little ridiculous of them to promise you Pure Platinums on every stage at every difficulty, but if I can be taught to play half as good as in the video I'll be happy.
When you jump off an enemies' head, even after you double jump, you can double jump again. If you cleared the two stay in the air alfheims using the whip you very likely used a double jump, pull with the whip, then a jump off the enemies head to get another double jump.
If you go into practice mode you'll notice if you do it quickly you can burning kick twice, like a double jump. If you're positioned right you can still jump off the enemies head after the kick, which is how all those kicks are done in one combo.
If you go into practice mode you'll notice if you do it quickly you can burning kick twice, like a double jump. If you're positioned right you can still jump off the enemies head after the kick, which is how all those kicks are done in one combo.
What's the move for a head stomp? I bought all the moves but I think I forgot that one since it didn't seem particularly useful or practical until now :lol
What's more bizarre to me is that the enemy never even seems to recover....most of the time when I try a pop-up combo on the more powerful monsters they seem to recover and flip out of it pretty quick.
What's more bizarre to me is that the enemy never even seems to recover....most of the time when I try a pop-up combo on the more powerful monsters they seem to recover and flip out of it pretty quick.
Even the product description is epic:
Its taken us more than 8 months to completely master Bayonetta. 6,000 incredible hours of testing, observation and intense play, and over 200,000 words to record our experience on more than 400 pages. The result is probably the most complete guide to date. Bayonetta deserves to be mastered, and this guide is your key!
* Pure Platinum: Its unique Battle Guide shows you how to get a Pure Platinum medal in every single Verse of every Chapter. Fighting beautifully is all that matters here, as we focus on achieving the highest ranks, even on the Non Stop ∞ Climax setting.
* Visual Scenario Guide: Locate any item quickly and easily, or simply find out how to proceed using our map-based visual walkthrough. You wont miss a single collectible, and even the best-hidden Verses are revealed at a glance.
* Perfect Combat: The unparalleled depth of Bayonettas combat system is analysed and laid bare. Weapons, combos, accessories and advanced techniques are all covered and discussed in exquisite detail. We show this game as its meant to be played.
* Opponents Analysed: Learn everything there is to know about the various types of Angels and Bosses, their weak spots, attack and defence data, attack cues and techniques, so that you can beat them with style. Whether they are lightning fast or gigantic in size, our strategies show you how to eliminate them without taking a single hit on even the hardest difficulty setting!
* Bayonetta Exposed: There is a wealth of secret weapons, characters and bonus content to discover. We show you all there is. The non-stop combat of Angel Slayer mode is covered in full detail, as we break down every battle in every stage. The Achievements/Trophy Guide recommends the quickest way to complete all the challenges and provides extra tips on how to succeed in the really tough ones.
* Access to exclusive videos: The serial number from the guide grants you access to the video section of future-press.com! Here you'll find countless videos of strategies and tips from the guide. They are the perfect supplementation to the book, especially when you're struggling to perform. The videos give an impressive insight into how Bayonetta can be played with faultless precision. And for a BONUS: An exclusive video of the interview from the Collector's Edition with subtitles.
Its taken us more than 8 months to completely master Bayonetta. 6,000 incredible hours of testing, observation and intense play, and over 200,000 words to record our experience on more than 400 pages. The result is probably the most complete guide to date. Bayonetta deserves to be mastered, and this guide is your key!
* Pure Platinum: Its unique Battle Guide shows you how to get a Pure Platinum medal in every single Verse of every Chapter. Fighting beautifully is all that matters here, as we focus on achieving the highest ranks, even on the Non Stop ∞ Climax setting.
* Visual Scenario Guide: Locate any item quickly and easily, or simply find out how to proceed using our map-based visual walkthrough. You wont miss a single collectible, and even the best-hidden Verses are revealed at a glance.
* Perfect Combat: The unparalleled depth of Bayonettas combat system is analysed and laid bare. Weapons, combos, accessories and advanced techniques are all covered and discussed in exquisite detail. We show this game as its meant to be played.
* Opponents Analysed: Learn everything there is to know about the various types of Angels and Bosses, their weak spots, attack and defence data, attack cues and techniques, so that you can beat them with style. Whether they are lightning fast or gigantic in size, our strategies show you how to eliminate them without taking a single hit on even the hardest difficulty setting!
* Bayonetta Exposed: There is a wealth of secret weapons, characters and bonus content to discover. We show you all there is. The non-stop combat of Angel Slayer mode is covered in full detail, as we break down every battle in every stage. The Achievements/Trophy Guide recommends the quickest way to complete all the challenges and provides extra tips on how to succeed in the really tough ones.
* Access to exclusive videos: The serial number from the guide grants you access to the video section of future-press.com! Here you'll find countless videos of strategies and tips from the guide. They are the perfect supplementation to the book, especially when you're struggling to perform. The videos give an impressive insight into how Bayonetta can be played with faultless precision. And for a BONUS: An exclusive video of the interview from the Collector's Edition with subtitles.
That vid for the guide has some awesome gameplay demos, but I just don't feel I have enough time to master the game like that in this crowded Q1 season. The only game in this genre of action I ever got nearly that good at was my perfect run of DMC3 on DMD difficulty and I trained for what seemed like forever to do that.
Giolon said:RE: Fire Durga works on flaming enemies.
yes, it does.
Wow, that actually does work. :lol
I guess that complaint is mostly gone, but I have no idea why they make it required to have both sets on.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
That guy who got called a viral marketer sounds like he was right about this guide, though. I really wish it was coming out in America.
Funchameleon
Banned
Haha, there's nothing not painfully simple about anything done in that strategy guide trailer.
COMPLETE BAYONETTA WITHOUT LOSING A SINGLE LIFE. WooaAAh.
Most of you will be this level of combat after enough time with the game. I am, and I'm awful at videogames (though brawlers are my favorite genre)
COMPLETE BAYONETTA WITHOUT LOSING A SINGLE LIFE. WooaAAh.
Most of you will be this level of combat after enough time with the game. I am, and I'm awful at videogames (though brawlers are my favorite genre)
Jex
Member
Because of the people in this thread I trudged out in a snowstorm to pick up Bayonetta when it was released. I was not dissapointed!
I've just been going through the game on hard, I was up to chapter 6 and then accidently erased that save and had to go back to one where I had just beat the game on normal. I didn't realise quite how much better I have got a the game since I started on hard - the part where you had to get three torute attacks was just impossible for me. I spent about two hours on it. This time through I had had enough training and I didn't get hit once. The comabt learning curve is soooo good.
I've just been going through the game on hard, I was up to chapter 6 and then accidently erased that save and had to go back to one where I had just beat the game on normal. I didn't realise quite how much better I have got a the game since I started on hard - the part where you had to get three torute attacks was just impossible for me. I spent about two hours on it. This time through I had had enough training and I didn't get hit once. The comabt learning curve is soooo good.
You know what else kills fire enemies? Bullets. Shotgun pellets. RPGs. Laserbeams. How many people are just using their guns to punch kick? You can pull off your favourite combos without ever touching an enemy if you hold down P or K, and actually use your projectiles weapons for their intended purpose.
Korey said:
You definitely need both, atleast for punch. I was taking damage from it, and I'm pretty sure I tried feet too, but it shouldn't matter anyway.
Aske said:
I was mainly wondering a way to kill the fire enemies without getting a horrible combo score. I used Bazillions laser a lot but you get pretty much jack from it.
Papercuts said:
Are you firing off a single beam and then breaking the combo? Just about every regular combo can be done from a distance with guns. And starting with a gun combo often puts out the fires, at least on the Hard Alfheims. Haven't had time to play enough of Climax mode to see if it works there, but last time I fought flaming Ardors, I could easily pull off a quick bullet combo and extinguish the flames. Leave them alone for a second and they charge up again, but that's when you lay in with melee weapons.
Ultimo hombre
Banned
1000/1000 done. It's gonna take a lot to pull my GOTY away from this. Easily the best action game of this generation and possibly ever.
goldenpp72
Member
Anyone have tips for the jeanne and 'last' fight of lost chapters? I have every weapon unlocked but still..
Funchameleon
Banned
I just admitted I was awful at videogames. Nothing done in that video is anything the game doesn't explicitly teach you on its own, it's just some free flowing combos and some timely parries. Nothing a strategy guide can teach, or even really help with, better than practice.
Funchameleon said:
While this is true, I'm considering getting it because it specifically tells you pretty much everything that is going on. I can get a better grip on things during practice if I understand just what is specifically going on in the game. There are plenty of things that even dedicated players can miss simply because they are going on practiced instinct rather than knowing the technical bits. That's what I'm getting it for.
WHAT THE FUCK? Damn this game has too much to learn. Now I know how to beat the 18th Alfheim withGiolon said:RE: Fire Durga works on flaming enemies.
yes, it does.
Jeanne
MiniBossman
Member
I've just started playing Bayonetta. I'm finding it a lot of fun, but obviously I am playing it wrong. I am completely mashing buttons, but from the Youtube video, obviously there is a "way" to play correctly. I think I need to really learn the mechanics and start over.
mjemirzian
Banned
You can only really pull off those endless juggles against angels (affinity, applaud, ardor, etc.), any of the stronger enemies like joy, gracious/glorious, fairness/fearless, etc. can't be bounced around in that manner, and you'll have better success learning how to use the evil rosary, mahaa-kalaa, or cheap tactics like dodge spamming with a gun weapon and holding down P/K.
atheistium
Member
Ultimo hombre said:
Same here. Just pulled it off this morning after taking a little break from it.
I hope people remember this title when GOTY awards are being given out.
Various Artists
Banned
1000/1000 isnt too hard. If you have trouble just use lollypops!
IcebergSlim3000
Member
Does any one know of a good guide for finding all of Antonio's notebooks. I'm missing 2 and it's starting to irk me. I'm also missing a couple crows and some witch chests but there seem to be plenty of guides for those.
â Narayan
Member
Official Bayonetta Strategy Guide Trailer
Has this been posted? HOLY FUCKING SHIT!
EDIT: Shit, beaten.
Has this been posted? HOLY FUCKING SHIT!
EDIT: Shit, beaten.
akachan ningen
Member
Yeah it has. I'd say don't get your hopes up.
It reminds me of that scene from The Karate Kid when Mr. Miyagi sees Daniel practicing karate in his living room and kind of snickers at him "Karate eh? Learn from book?"
I'd say figuring out how to do this stuff out for yourself is most of the fun of the game.
â Narayan
Member
I'm not getting the book. I'm just saying that the trailer is pretty impressive.akachan ningen said:
akachan ningen
Member
Oh. Yeah, those are some good combos. I've seen variations on youtube a while back though. I figured most of the people in this thread had too.
gutter_trash
Banned
man, I should have bought the Moon-Shakalaka Acessrory sooner,
why did I buy this so late? it's so much fun with it
I finished HARD yesterday, now onto 8Climax
Beeds and Moon-Shakalakakaka it is
why did I buy this so late? it's so much fun with it
I finished HARD yesterday, now onto 8Climax
Beeds and Moon-Shakalakakaka it is
Fimbulvetr
Member
I just bought the parry accessory.
Is it hard to use at first?
Is it hard to use at first?
Ultimo hombre
Banned
PARANO1A said:
sword on the hand as your primary. Pick either guns or Durga on hour feet.
On the 2nd set, use whip on hands and killgore on feet.
Always keep an eye on bayonetta in battle so you can see the moves being done. Keep a finger on the right trigger to get witch time. Don't be shy about it. Dodge is more of a key to this game than attack. Focus on that first.
Learn these basic combos. With sword: p p p p k. P p p p p.
Use this for most enemies. Remember you can dodge at any point in the combo so be ready to use it. The reason you need to only work on a couple of combos at first is so you can get used to not button mashing and keeping an eye on bayonetta in combat.
For the whip, use it on any flying enemies. Combo. P k p. This is your bread and butter with the whip. You can also hold down p which with drag the enemy to you. At that point you can do pppk.
The key here is to learn to slow down the game so you're not just mashing buttons and feeling overwhelmed. Best way to do that is get 2 good weapon sets and use a few basic combos to learn the animations and slow the gameplay down. Hope this helps.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Finished the game, what a ride, I think that's something that this game somewhat shares with RE4, it's an awesome rollercoaster ride, that's continuously throws awesomeness to you. My biggest complain was the "Space Harrier" section, which dragged for too long and was just boring, I had more fun with the driving sections...
Also
Also
INFINITONS!!