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Working my way through all the Alfheims on Normal.
The feeling of progression in skill in this game is unmatched in the action genre... Whereas before I simply accepted dying 4 or 5 times a level on my first playthrough as par for the course, on this time around I am truly shocked any time something manages to kill me (and it's usually a QTE :lol)
The feeling of progression in skill in this game is unmatched in the action genre... Whereas before I simply accepted dying 4 or 5 times a level on my first playthrough as par for the course, on this time around I am truly shocked any time something manages to kill me (and it's usually a QTE :lol)
Agreed. I think the practice/loading screen helped a ton in my progression. Seeing a zero next to a move drives me to learn it and use it in the next verse. Also I love the feeling of seeing minibosses as trash later on knowing I can crush them now. The turning point for me was the verse that had the two claw guys then immediately spawned two more right after they died. I discovered the different weapons and really started to master the collection of combos and dodge offset.Hawkian said:
Just finished this, I am really not familiar with the action game genre (only games in the genre I've played are God of War 1/2 ), but i had a blast playing it 
I may have died more in this game than i ever have in all the games I played in my life put together but hey .. was worth it :lol
And seriously, when you think you reached the most absurd, or awesome moment in the game, they always manage to top it after,
It is somewhat annoying when you die in a QTE, or in one of those (too long for my taste) shooter type sequences because you did'nt have a clue of what is going on, and there are some minor camera problems here and there, other than that it is pure awesomeness.
If some of you still hesitate to play this game, just STOP it's worth it in every way.
I may have died more in this game than i ever have in all the games I played in my life put together but hey .. was worth it :lol
And seriously, when you think you reached the most absurd, or awesome moment in the game, they always manage to top it after,
even after the credits
It is somewhat annoying when you die in a QTE, or in one of those (too long for my taste) shooter type sequences because you did'nt have a clue of what is going on, and there are some minor camera problems here and there, other than that it is pure awesomeness.
If some of you still hesitate to play this game, just STOP
it's worth it in every way.palpabl_purpura
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Hawkian said:Think you might mean Space Harrier?
Just beat NSIC. Man, I really need to get rid of all these stone awards. :lol
edit: that's 40 hrs, btw. And I feel like I haven't really scratched the surface here in some ways. I know I still don't have all the weapons.
Two words- Pulley's butterfly
Sohter.Nura
Member
palpabl_purpura said:
And the kilgore glitch :lol :lol :lol
Then go to Climax and get those awards.
Fimbulvetr
Member
Hawkian said:
Makes three(?) copies of you that follow your every movement.
So every single attack you do becomes three(triple the damage, triple the flinching).
Sohter.Nura
Member
Hawkian said:
Every item has a situation.
I usually play with Mahaa Kaalaa + Gaze of Despair + Pulley's Butterfly.
Sometimes I have to change to Evil Harvest, sometimes I take pulley's butterfly because I don't like it, it really all depends.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
Pulley's Butterfly is incredibly effective to the point of being near-broken. The only downside is that sometimes it's easy to lose all of your butterflies and not notice it, but that's probably just me.
Fimbulvetr
Member
bry-bry said:
Oh right.
It's just that I almost never use either of them. :lol
I need to try them out some time.
palpabl_purpura
Member
Sir Ilpalazzo said:
For real. I was casually playing NSIC today and got a Pure Plat on Fortitudo. So wrong. :lol
palpabl_purpura
Member
Top 10 overpowered things in Bayonetta
1) Climax Bracelett
2) Pulley's Butterfly
3) Kilgore Glitch
4) Flame Durgas/switch
5) Whip hold and pull
6) Bazillions
7) Rodin (esp flame spin)
8) back, forward + K/instant weaves
9) Rosary Beads
10)Bracelet of time
Honorable mention: breakdance with certain weapons equipped (i.e. Bazillions on hands, Killgores on feet)
1) Climax Bracelett
2) Pulley's Butterfly
3) Kilgore Glitch
4) Flame Durgas/switch
5) Whip hold and pull
6) Bazillions
7) Rodin (esp flame spin)
8) back, forward + K/instant weaves
9) Rosary Beads
10)Bracelet of time
Honorable mention: breakdance with certain weapons equipped (i.e. Bazillions on hands, Killgores on feet)
Fimbulvetr
Member
I think the number of butterflies that go down is dependent on the strength of the attack.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Likewise, mine finally came in last Friday. Awesome guide!Dead said:Finally got my LE Guide. Jesus this thing is MASSIVE. So much info, so much art. Looks just amazing
Luckily it wasnt damaged at all despite the moronic DHL delivery guy just throwing the parcel on the pavement several feet away from the door. Ugh.
palpabl_purpura said:
Doesn't climax bracelet disqualify you completely from all leaderboards and such? Not that mine have ever loaded on PS3. Can anyone help me with that by the way?
And it would seem to me from 4 onward you're just identifying effective techniques :lol
Fun game, I'm on my second play through now going for the under 3 hours speed run. The last time I was hooked on a game in this way was last year with Batman AA but Bayonetta is infinity tons better just because of how ridiculous every thing is. I laughed several times during my first play through.
Are there any other requirements for the under 3 hours run? I'm pretty much going as fast as I can from boss to boss without killing stuff I don't have to and not picking up any items. Any thing else I should be aware of?
Are there any other requirements for the under 3 hours run? I'm pretty much going as fast as I can from boss to boss without killing stuff I don't have to and not picking up any items. Any thing else I should be aware of?
palpabl_purpura
Member
Hawkian said:
Yep, climax bracelet completely throws out your score. It's that overpowered.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
Just thought I'd share some amusing trivia from the interview in the guide. In the intro, Sega's logo was also on one of the gravestones. However, Sega were upset about having thier company logo on a gravestone (lol) so Kamiya had to change it at the last minute, which is when he made up the Team Little Angels thing on the spot to replace it.
He was also planning on an Amaterasu costume for Bayonetta but Capcom said no. Big companies not being able to take a joke as Kamiya puts it
He was also planning on an Amaterasu costume for Bayonetta but Capcom said no. Big companies not being able to take a joke as Kamiya puts it
Fimbulvetr
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Hawkian said:
Luka mentions it actually.
Damn, an Ammy costume would be pretty awesome too.
Cant wait to read it. I was surprised the interview is so long. Its like the type you usually see at the back of Japanese artbooks.Air Zombie Meat said:Just thought I'd share some amusing trivia from the interview in the guide. In the intro, Sega's logo was also on one of the gravestones. However, Sega were upset about having thier company logo on a gravestone (lol) so Kamiya had to change it at the last minute, which is when he made up the Team Little Angels thing on the spot to replace it.
He was also planning on an Amaterasu costume for Bayonetta but Capcom said no. Big companies not being able to take a joke as Kamiya puts it
And on that note, I just found out that they are planning a massive Bayonetta artbook in Japan. Was posted on the official Platinum blog in January
palpabl_purpura
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thundr51 said:
Depends on the strength of the attack. You can always summon them again, as long as you have 4 magic orbs. And, when you don't need them, you can always recall them by holding triangle +circle. Using flame durgas with impunity is quite deadly to most foes.
prodystopian
Member
The game has dropped to $44.99 on Amazon (PS3 version):
http://www.amazon.com/Bayonetta-Playstation-3/dp/B001YHX4B0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1269437980&sr=8-2
I'd be picking it up today if I hadn't just bought Demon's Souls and NGS2.
http://www.amazon.com/Bayonetta-Playstation-3/dp/B001YHX4B0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1269437980&sr=8-2
I'd be picking it up today if I hadn't just bought Demon's Souls and NGS2.
unagisensei
Member
What's worth playing first, this or GOW III? I might play both eventually, but I know I'll be too burned out on action games for a while to play both back to back...
Net_Wrecker
Member
unagisensei said:
Definitely play GOW3 first. It's only 9 hours on normal. Bayonetta was something like 15 hours on first playthrough for me, and is much easier to sink a ton of time into. They are also very much different games in terms of level design, combat, setting, and gameplay options so I don't see why you'd be burned out.
i want to get a ps3 this week and this game is at the top of my list. can someone PLEASE just give it to me straight about the ps3 port? how would you describe it? are there load times every time you go into the menu/pause? how long are they? how bad is the slowdown? my friend back home has this game and he says theres no load time or slowdown after you do some new install that just came out......how accurate is that? i'm pretty pumped on this game after seeing some of the boss fights, but i wouldn't mind skipping it if the ps version is annoying/crappy. idk when/if i'll get a 360 though.
thanks ^_^
thanks ^_^
mjemirzian
Banned
palpabl_purpura said:
That's not a good list if you're playing for score or pure platinums, or if you're playing on NSIC mode.. which you should be if you're bothering to list 'overpowered' things in the game. Climax Bracelet disqualifies you from scoring, and Rodin has such a terrible combo point to damage ratio that you'll never get a good combo score with it.
I'd say it's
1. Kilgore Glitch
2. Pulley's Butterfly
3. Evil Harvest Rosary
4. Bracelet of Time
5. Shuraba Tetsuzanko
6. whatever else..
0 HP said:
Get it, Ps3 version was fine after the install
Apart from the very first section (clock tower) that sucked balls. But you cant die there anyway and even after 4 playthroughs you only do that section the very first time you play it.
I got a platinum in 25 hours. And never had any problems. And theres no way i would have endured 4 playthroughs if i thought the game sucked. 2 on normal, 1 on hard and one on infinite climax.
Get it, you won't regret it
Load times aren't long at all. I never tried it without the install and i doubt i will.
With the install on the PS3, load times are essentially nonexistent, you won't even think about it.
Slowdown is a bit sad compared to the 360 version, but taken on its own it's nothing too complaint-worthy. It's a blast and I'm loving it.
Before the patch, I heard there was a loading time when you PAUSED. :lol
Slowdown is a bit sad compared to the 360 version, but taken on its own it's nothing too complaint-worthy. It's a blast and I'm loving it.
Before the patch, I heard there was a loading time when you PAUSED. :lol
palpabl_purpura
Member
mjemirzian said:
It's not for score, it's for killing. BTW, if your list is for score, then you should not even have Evil Harvest Rosary listed, and Gaze of Despair should at least be in your top 5.
Gaze of Despair makes the game harder. He isn't including the Climax Bracelet on the list because the game itself is acknowledging it's broken by killing your score, and he excepts Rodin because it has a large disadvantage even if it's overpowered. The items listed would seem to be the easiest ways to do well without the game penalizing you in any way.
palpabl_purpura
Member
Hawkian said:
No, that isn't the point. GOD increases your combo score significantly, so yes, if you are going for score, it is quite a powerful acessory; almost essential in some situations. So if your goal is the highest score possible, there no doubt that GOD will make that difference.
toastyToast
Member
Finally bought Bayonetta. Only £17.85 from zavvi, considering the cheapest price in store in Australia is almost double it was practically a steal
I played DMC3SE religiously a few years ago, how does this compare? Kamiya knows what I like so I know this game kicks all kinds of ass. Should I approach it differently or just see how I go?
I played DMC3SE religiously a few years ago, how does this compare? Kamiya knows what I like so I know this game kicks all kinds of ass. Should I approach it differently or just see how I go?
a Master Ninja
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If you have an Xbox 360, just wait for that version to price drop.corkscrewblow said:
palpabl_purpura said:
No, that isn't the point. Maybe you just haven't followed the exchange since this the beginning- No one was talking about ways to just maximize your score. Of course Gaze of Despair makes you earn more points. Handguns would be all over these lists if that was the discussion. It was "overpowered" items/techniques. Mjemirzian made a modified list of things that were considered overpowered that didn't simultaneously prevent you from getting a good score.
I find it hard to accept that any item that intentionally makes the game more difficult could be considered overpowered, regardless of the benefits it has for your point total.
mjemirzian
Banned
To be fair, the evil harvest rosary does have a mediocre damage to points ratio, especially if the AOE blast hits a lot of weak affinities or harmonies at once. But what makes it overpowered is against the tougher, higher health enemies like Gracious/Glorious, where all you have to do is dodge and they get stunned by the blast, instead of having to worry about doing dodge offsets and getting off WWs. Using it against those higher health enemies will still easily get you a Pure Platinum in combo.