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[rataven]

Picked this up when Amazon was offering it for $10 thinking it would be an easy thing to pop in now and then, buy ohmygod is it hard! And I love it. Started out on normal and I'm stuck on the Grace/Glory x 2 battle in chapter 6, but I sort of don't care. I've gone back to earlier chapters to try to hone my skills.

And is it normal that I never seem to be able to buy anything at Rodin's shop? Almost everything is way outside my price range.

is there anyplace where we can buy the guide for a reasonable price?

If you're ok with just a PDF of the guide, you can download it for free here - http://www.sega.com/platinumgames/bayonetta/us/index.html

 

[Fimbulvetr]

And is it normal that I never seem to be able to buy anything at Rodin's shop? Almost everything is way outside my price range.

Buy techniques first.

They're the cheapest stuff in the shop other than Witch Hearts and Moon Pearls.

 

[Ledsen]

Picked this up when Amazon was offering it for $10 thinking it would be an easy thing to pop in now and then, buy ohmygod is it hard! And I love it. Started out on normal and I'm stuck on the Grace/Glory x 2 battle in chapter 6, but I sort of don't care. I've gone back to earlier chapters to try to hone my skills.

And is it normal that I never seem to be able to buy anything at Rodin's shop? Almost everything is way outside my price range.


If you're ok with just a PDF of the guide, you can download it for free here - http://www.sega.com/platinumgames/bayonetta/us/index.html

That's not the guide he's talking about... he's talking about the REAL guide, the "OMFG this is the most awesome thing I've seen in my entire life"-guide. (the European one):

(pictures taken from here)

 

[BlazeDSM]

I've finally beat this game and I must say I am so in love with it and her...instead of buying upgrades I had to buy the alternate costumes, it was only right. Great game, one of my new favorites.

 

[Coldsnap]

the missile scene is really annoying.

 

[rataven]

That's not the guide he's talking about... he's talking about the REAL guide, the "OMFG this is the most awesome thing I've seen in my entire life"-guide. (the European one):

(pictures taken from here)

Oh dam. I didn't even know that existed; it's gorgeous. And it's so epic it even has it's own trailer! Do want. Looks like someone is selling it new on Amazon for the low price of $1,129! *cries*

 

[Ledsen]

Oh dam. I didn't even know that existed; it's gorgeous. And it's so epic it even has it's own trailer! Do want. Looks like someone is selling it new on Amazon for the low price of $1,129! *cries*

I got it for £17 delivered to Sweden from an Amazon UK seller. I don't know how much it would be delivered to the US though. It really is the best guide ever made though.

 

[Curufinwe]

I got it from Amazon UK back in July for about US $35 delivered, but they're out of stock now, unfortunately.

EDIT: Wow I just got a Stone Award for Chapter II :lol Do you get penalized for using items? I've always thought that in other action games like NG and DMC that you do...but now i'm not sure.

Liking all the nods to past games

Also is it possible to miss verses? I beat chapter II and III, but it seems like there are some blank spots in the medal count.

Items count as a partial death, and a partial death greater than 50% is rounded up to one death. Here are the item death values from page 33 of the Collector's Edition guide.

Green lollipop - 20%
Mega green lollipop - 40%
Purple lollipop - 20%
Mega purple lollipop - 20%
Bloody Rose lollipop - 30%
Mega Bloody Rose lollipop - 60%
Yellow Moon lollipop - 30%
Mega yellow moon lollipop - 60%
Magic flute - 40%
Red Hot Shot - 100%

So you can use one Yellow Moon lollipop per Chapter and not be penalized. This can be very useful on tough stages where a short period of invincibility can make a big difference.

It is very easy to miss verses because the game requires a lot of backtracking to find all of them. One of the few things I don't like about Bayonetta, although it didn't personally affect me because I followed the Scenario Guide.

 

[∀ Narayan]

Oh dam. I didn't even know that existed; it's gorgeous. And it's so epic it even has it's own trailer! Do want. Looks like someone is selling it new on Amazon for the low price of $1,129! *cries*

Holy Hell! I'm so glad I got it when it came out.

 

[Attack You]

I checked in on the Bayo guide at Amazon.uk one day a few months ago, right after the game dropped to $20 in the States, and saw that their stock was at about 20 and slowly dwindling. I had a hunch they were being snatched up once the game dropped in price. I made a panic purchase and recommended a couple of friends who love the game to do the same. Three days later, out of stock and has been that way since. I wish I picked up at least a second copy for a gift.

Also bought The Eyes of Bayonetta artbook from NCSX a couple weeks later. I rarely buy supplementals or merchandise for games, but Bayo is a thing of beauty.

 

[chris121580]

Finished this last night. What an absolutely fantastic game. Enjoyed every second of it. It's motivated me to pick up Vanquish as well.

 

[Coldsnap]

the missile scene is really annoying.

Few days later I'm still at the missle shoot em up scene, pretty sure I will stop here. This part sorta destroys the game for me, it's way too long, it controls like garbage, the dodge is annoying, and it's dead smack in the middle of the climax.

 

[Fimbulvetr]

Few days later I'm still at the missle shoot em up scene, pretty sure I will stop here. This part sorta destroys the game for me, it's way too long, it controls like garbage, the dodge is annoying, and it's dead smack in the middle of the climax.

Don't use the dodge, just move out of the way.

The best way to win is to play it like you're actually playing Space Harrier.

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

Few days later I'm still at the missle shoot em up scene, pretty sure I will stop here. This part sorta destroys the game for me, it's way too long, it controls like garbage, the dodge is annoying, and it's dead smack in the middle of the climax.

You gotta get through this part. The best boss fight is right after, and the rest of the game ain't too shabby. It really shouldn't be that difficult once you've played it a few times. If you keep moving in a circle you'll avoid most attacks and you can shoot faster if you use both square and triangle alternatingly (I don't think I'm imagining that).

You're right, though, that it's a garbage level in an otherwise sterling game. The first time you encounter it it's a nice pace breaker (not that I needed one) but every time thereafter it's a fucking bore. If there were an option to patch it out of the game I would. Same for the motorcycle level.

 

[Coldsnap]

Yea you're right. I'm just being a baby about it. I just tanked through it with health lollipops, I have always sucked at Space Harrier and I think this is just reminding me and making me bitter.

About how far into the game am I? I am currently past the Space Harrier level and shooting a giant statues with cannons.

 

[∀ Narayan]

Yea you're right. I'm just being a baby about it. I just tanked through it with health lollipops, I have always sucked at Space Harrier and I think this is just reminding me and making me bitter.

About how far into the game am I? I am currently past the Space Harrier level and shooting a giant statues with cannons.

3/4

 

[Krauser Kat]

Yea you're right. I'm just being a baby about it. I just tanked through it with health lollipops, I have always sucked at Space Harrier and I think this is just reminding me and making me bitter.

About how far into the game am I? I am currently past the Space Harrier level and shooting a giant statues with cannons.

more like 7/8th or closer.

also holy wow at that guide. I think i might pick up a guide. i beat it on normal two nights ago and got a few stone ratings. I really got to up my game. how hard is getting platinum in this?

 

[Fimbulvetr]

3/4

A bit more than that actually. He's halfway through the last, non-boss chapter.

 

[∀ Narayan]

3.75/4

 

[Coldsnap]

hehe, how do I dodge his big charge attack? I get off the cannon in time but have no where to run and dodge it.

 

[steadfast]

hehe, how do I dodge his big charge attack? I get off the cannon in time but have no where to run and dodge it.

If you're talking about the one at the top of the building, hop off the cannon and back into the hallway to dodge.

 

[bluedeviltron]

I've gone from a hater to a 'top 5 games of 2010' lover in the span of two days with Bayonetta. It's just spectacularly fun to play, watch and listen to.

So glad I gave it another chance.

 

[Teknoman]

Chapter VIII...damn that was crazy. Im a sucker for highway stages and combined with the music...that was amazing!

The theme reminded me of Shinobi III's hoverboard sequence.

 

[mugwhump]

Got this for Christmas, the combat is really glorious. The story is painful and retarded, but I can live with that.

Do you have to do Alfheims you've already beaten to get a good chapter score?

Also, I'm trying to play this on a different Xbox. I copied the save data onto a USB stick (not the profile, though), but it won't let me play on the new Xbox, because it's locked to that profile. Copying the profile isn't an option, because you have to delete it off the old Xbox. I think my only option may be illicitly modifying the save data. Anyone know how to go about doing this?

 

[Prophet Steve]

Got this for Christmas, the combat is really glorious. The story is painful and retarded, but I can live with that.

Do you have to do Alfheims you've already beaten to get a good chapter score?

Also, I'm trying to play this on a different Xbox. I copied the save data onto a USB stick (not the profile, though), but it won't let me play on the new Xbox, because it's locked to that profile. Copying the profile isn't an option, because you have to delete it off the old Xbox. I think my only option may be illicitly modifying the save data. Anyone know how to go about doing this?

No, you can get a high chapter score without doing them. You could also copy your profile on the USB stick I think, unless you have somebody that plays on your profile at the same time on the other xbox.

 

[mugwhump]

, unless you have somebody that plays on your profile at the same time on the other xbox.

Yeah

 

[Chauncy Talon]

I've gone from a hater to a 'top 5 games of 2010' lover in the span of two days with Bayonetta. It's just spectacularly fun to play, watch and listen to.

So glad I gave it another chance.

You sound like me. Everybody praised it, but I had no time for it. Now, I feel LTTP with this game. :-/ I just hope a sequel is in the making. Please keep the good ol' Space Harrier bike level on there.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

You sound like me. Everybody praised it, but I had no time for it. Now, I feel LTTP with this game. :-/ I just hope a sequel is in the making. Please keep the good ol' Space Harrier bike level on there.

I could do without the Space Harrier section (especially since you have to play through the whole thing to get to a great battle) but the bike BETTER come back in any sort of Bayonetta sequel. Polish it up a bit more, give me some riding on buildings sections, and BAM...Instant great chapter.

 

[Fimbulvetr]

Yeah

Go offline with the account.

It's the only way to have two people play the same profile at the same time. Bayonetta has no real use for online other than leader boards anyway.

 

[Roto13]

I could do without the Space Harrier section (especially since you have to play through the whole thing to get to a great battle) but the bike BETTER come back in any sort of Bayonetta sequel. Polish it up a bit more, give me some riding on buildings sections, and BAM...Instant great chapter.

Spoiler

Half of the awesomeness of the ending is the fact that you ride a motorcycle into space. The other half being that you punch God into the sun, of course.

 

[Teknoman]

I could do without the Space Harrier section (especially since you have to play through the whole thing to get to a great battle) but the bike BETTER come back in any sort of Bayonetta sequel. Polish it up a bit more, give me some riding on buildings sections, and BAM...Instant great chapter.

Heh that F-Zero/Wipeout style section was really nice. Can you ride on the destroyed sections, or was I right in avoiding them?

 

[Fimbulvetr]

Heh that F-Zero/Wipeout style section was really nice. Can you ride on the destroyed sections, or was I right in avoiding them?

What do you mean by "destroyed sections"?

 

[Teknoman]

What do you mean by "destroyed sections"?

Well I guess its not really spoiler material: The busted up sections of the highway when you can actually drive off the road. It looked like some of the road sections hung in the air just long enough to jump off each one, and back onto the road.

 

[Fimbulvetr]

Well I guess its not really spoiler material: The busted up sections of the highway when you can actually drive off the road. It looked like some of the road sections hung in the air just long enough to jump off each one, and back onto the road.

You mean the barricaded sections?

 

[Teknoman]

You mean the barricaded sections?

Its close to those. The first section where the left side of the road breaks off.

 

[Fimbulvetr]

Its close to those. The first section where the left side of the road breaks off.

If the road breaks, no.

 

[Teknoman]

If the road breaks, no.

Ah ok :lol Thought it might have been one of those "jump" qte optional sections.

 

[mjemirzian]

Few days later I'm still at the missle shoot em up scene, pretty sure I will stop here. This part sorta destroys the game for me, it's way too long, it controls like garbage, the dodge is annoying, and it's dead smack in the middle of the climax.

The controls are 100% responsive and do exactly what you tell them to. You might not like it, but you can't fault the controls for technical issues.

Also see this video for a more or less perfect superplay of the chapter. Maybe you'll learn something.

 

[Minamu]

Picked this up when Amazon was offering it for $10 thinking it would be an easy thing to pop in now and then, buy ohmygod is it hard! And I love it. Started out on normal and I'm stuck on the Grace/Glory x 2 battle in chapter 6, but I sort of don't care. I've gone back to earlier chapters to try to hone my skills.

And is it normal that I never seem to be able to buy anything at Rodin's shop? Almost everything is way outside my price range.


If you're ok with just a PDF of the guide, you can download it for free here - http://www.sega.com/platinumgames/bayonetta/us/index.html

I can't find the link for the pdfs there, but is it ther same as this one?
http://juegodeals.com/2011/01/07/rare-bayonetta-digital-guide-free-right-now/

 

[Triple Da G.O.D!]

I can't find the link for the pdfs there, but is it ther same as this one?
http://juegodeals.com/2011/01/07/rare-bayonetta-digital-guide-free-right-now/

It is as far as I can tell. I need to download that thing myself and get back on Bayonetta. And gatdamn does that Limited Edition guide look pretty. I took a look at prices for that thing and it's too rich for my blood right now. Maybe I might get lucky and the publisher will do a second run or find it on Amazon or eBay for a reasonable price. Maybe outside of that a GAFfer will put one up in the BST thread or something. Until then free works.

 

[Lindsay]

I just wanna say I hate the person/people that decided R1 should be lock-on and R2 dodge and not allow you to remap the controls.

Also that I died in a tutorial twice.

And I'm playing the game unpatched and that load times are nothing to cry about!

 

[Jintor]

360 master race, man

 

[∀ Narayan]

I just wanna say I hate the person/people that decided R1 should be lock-on and R2 dodge and not allow you to remap the controls.

Also that I died in a tutorial twice.

And I'm playing the game unpatched and that load times are nothing to cry about!

You don't need to use lock on very much, you know. The game's targeting is pretty tight.

 

[Roto13]

One of the websites I write for is doing a list of the top games of last year and Bayonetta is on the list. I was the one who got to write the blurb for it. I'll link to it once it's live.

I just wanna say I hate the person/people that decided R1 should be lock-on and R2 dodge and not allow you to remap the controls.

Also that I died in a tutorial twice.

And I'm playing the game unpatched and that load times are nothing to cry about!

I don't know why the lock on button even exists, it's so useless. You should probably download the patch and install it if you can. The load times will get on your nerves after a while. Especially if you decide to go through it again a second time right away, which you might because it's that kind of game!

 

[Jintor]

Lock-on is there so that you can... Umbran Crow Spear or whatever to the next target by double-tapping it.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

I just wanna say I hate the person/people that decided R1 should be lock-on and R2 dodge and not allow you to remap the controls.

Also that I died in a tutorial twice.

And I'm playing the game unpatched and that load times are nothing to cry about!

The only thing you need lock-on for is the specific maneuvers that require the lock on button. 95% of the time, just let the game auto target for you, it's really good.

 

[∀ Narayan]

You can also use it for launch attacks. I use it for that a lot.

 

[drizzle]

I got it for £17 delivered to Sweden from an Amazon UK seller. I don't know how much it would be delivered to the US though. It really is the best guide ever made though.

What, when were?

It's mega rare and expensive now. You surely got it back when the game released, right?

 

[Jintor]

I got it for $30 off Bookdepository last year. :smug.gif:

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

I just wanna say I hate the person/people that decided R1 should be lock-on and R2 dodge and not allow you to remap the controls.

Also that I died in a tutorial twice.

And I'm playing the game unpatched and that load times are nothing to cry about!

The load times are wasting your life several seconds at a time. You could avoid them with a simple procedure that you can set in motion while doing something else. I cannot see why you wouldn't patch it and install.

Also, you really don't need to bother with lock-on 99% of the time. Just master the dodging first. Worry about lock-on later. Or never.