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Assembly Required said:
TheCardPlayer said:
well hes shown that hes played similar action games enough to provide a somewhat plausible personal ranking...
he took the time to post a somewhat balanced review that could be disagreed with at points, but at least its coherent and somewhat balanced....
he took the time to respond to a question...
and considering I agree with some of his points, (some of the cutscenes are so played out and long) I'll give the two shits about what hes thinking and add some of my own.
Good:
Everything gameplay related
Paradiso looks awesome
Weapon design and versatility is very user friendly
Enemy designs (angel then damaged version) feel unique and have personality
Nice item creation system in an action game
Bat-counter is very satisfying to use
Bad:
Some mini game sequences go on too long and the gimmick wears out quick
Some cutscenes feel overly long, goofy and played out (twin snakes on crack)
Story from the game to book/files feels disjointed
Vigrid is a boring locale
Many store bought techniques seem boring and somewhat useless
Luka is terrible and kills the mood of the game for me, over and over and over
Screen tearing (360 version)
and yes I actually watched all the cutscenes
FlashbladeGAF said:
Actually no. It's more like me tasting a type of food and it tasting like shit, and people telling me that it's because I didn't eat it all. Like I said, to each his own. I personally think the cutscenes are terrible and they actually get in the way of me enjoying the game.
Also read what you quote and understand before responding, rather than just picking something out of it.
ShockingAlberto
Member
He probably meant exclusive to consolesDahbomb said:
JumpJeff84
Member
Yeah, I said pretty much the same thing a page or two back. It's so true though...while I understand a lot of the reasons people slag eastern developers, there's a certian level of polish that the best japanese games have that often don't appear in Western games.
Too long and too frequent.ShockingAlberto said:
I don't mind them that much in and by themselves, but I think they kinda hurt the flow of the game.
Not to the degree that would make me skip them, but replaying a chapter (and skipping all the cutscenes) just feel a whole lot better.
The game is just such a joy to play, that whenever I watch a cutscene I can't help but thinking - damn, I'd rather be blowing shit up right now.
BrLvgThrChmstry
Banned
ultim8p00 said:
I see your point. And while I am forcing myself to watch them, its torture...it just progressively gets worst. Seriously, her one liners make Dante look like Shakespeare.
Volcynika said:
Bosses cutscenes are fun and Jeanne cutscenes show some amazing coreography, but I hated all the parts with Luka. He's a totally useless character, I don't know if they wanted him to be a comedy sidekick, like Enzo, or some kind of "weak male character", in opposition to Bayonetta, but either way it doesn't work (and yes, I watched ALL cutscenes). Not that it matters much, the game is awesome and it's not like there is any other game in the same genre that can show a good story so who cares.
Fimbulvetr
Member
TheCardPlayer said:
Dude, calm down. :lol
@God'sBeard: That said, the unlockables and bought techniques aren't close to being superfluous and just because you took a liking to the sword does not mean someone else hasn't found their own sweet spot in terms of weapons(I myself have grown fond of the whip + fire Durga set).
ShockingAlberto
Member
Sega kinda randomly decides if a game should come to PC and I don't think Platinum has a lot of PC experience, unlike Capcom.Zeliard said:Well, at least at this point. I'm assuming we'll eventually see a PC version of Bayonetta but who knows when that'll be. Has it been announced?
Edit: oh nm.
But yeah, regardless, a PC version of this game would be GLORIOUS. It has to happen eventually.
Scythesurge
Member
I like it when she calls Luka
Speaking of Luka, when he makes all those references to
in chapter 5 I think it is, who is
? She was the only one I didn't instantly recognize.
Cheshire Puss
capcom girls
Anny
darkpaladinmfc
Member
'Ammy' is a nickname for Amaterasu from Okami.Scythesurge said:
Scythesurge
Member
Oh!! Makes sense now.darkpaladinmfc said:
TheFreshPrince
Junior Member
Ok, at the end of chapters, when it is showing you your medal total, and overall chapter award....why am I getting some holes with no medals? Am I missing Verses, or what is going on? I've had 2 or 3 'holes' every chapter without a medal!
Any help?
Any help?
ShockingAlberto
Member
Scythesurge said:
Ammy, short for Amaterasu from Okami. He makes reference specifically to Kamiya-created girls - Claire, Trish, Sylvia, and Amaterasu.
Yeah. It's starting to drive me nuts. I thought I was safe by getting the 360 version instead of the PS3 version, but the screen tearing is pretty bad especially for such a high profile game made this late in the console cycle.Archie said:
And people are seriously dissing the cutscenes? Have you never played a game from Japan before?!
Chichikov said:
Gotta agree with this, though I can take some comfort in the fact that when I've gone through the game once, I can just skip the cutscenes every time and not feel that I'm missing anything.
Some of the cutscenes are pretty cool, but yeah, most are overlong or somewhat unnecessary.
I'd chalk it up to a minor criticism, personally, since everything else is so good that it just overwhelms the bad. Plus, this issue pretty much disappears entirely upon replay. The combat is so good that playing it, I keep thinking "how come no other game in the genre has ever felt quite this good?" It's just so damn smooth with the cancelling and linking.
ShockingAlberto said:
Let's hope for the best.
thetrin
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danmaku said:
Can you open them the first time you visit the level? How do I replay a level to go find Alfheim portals?
I just started last night, and I got the wicked weave with dodge offset achievement in Chapter 2, and didn't even know what dodge offset was until 2 minutes ago. Heh.
Lostconfused
Member
Yeah a PC port would definitely be great. As long as it runs the rest can probably be fixed.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Speaking of Okami, has anyone else noticed the pretty direct gameplay reference to it?
Crash Station
Member
Just finished it. I'm honestly speechless. Calling the last few chapters jaw dropping would be a gross understatement. It's more like some guy ripped my jaw off my face and sewed it back on upside down. That's how amazed I was.
I've never felt such a rush.
Yeah, the plot twist was obvious when
. Still, the story was really enjoyable.
Calling this the evolution of action games isn't giving it enough credit. It has raised the bar so high that I am not even that my hype for God of War 3 has once again plummeted. Yeah I'll still buy it and probably enjoy it a great deal but I will be beyond shocked if it even holds a candle to this. Bayonetta is the new standard in which all action games should be judged.
I don't usually jump on the developer circle jerking bandwagon, but I'll make an exception here. KAMIYA IS A GOD!
Now to get my ass handed to me in hard mode
Seriously, falling from a building while satellites shoot lasers at you and shit!
Yeah, the plot twist was obvious when
you find out Cereza was Bayonetta the whole time. I was honestly convinced of that the second I saw her
Calling this the evolution of action games isn't giving it enough credit. It has raised the bar so high that I am not even that my hype for God of War 3 has once again plummeted. Yeah I'll still buy it and probably enjoy it a great deal but I will be beyond shocked if it even holds a candle to this. Bayonetta is the new standard in which all action games should be judged.
I don't usually jump on the developer circle jerking bandwagon, but I'll make an exception here. KAMIYA IS A GOD!
Now to get my ass handed to me in hard mode
Scythesurge
Member
If you haven't been on the Clover/Platinum circle jerking bandwagon for a number of years then you've been doing something wrongcosmicblizzard said:Just finished it. I'm honestly speechless. Calling the last few chapters jaw dropping would be a gross understatement. It's more like some guy ripped my jaw off my face and sewed it back on upside down. That's how amazed I was.I've never felt such a rush.Seriously, falling from a building while satellites shoot lasers at you and shit!
Yeah, the plot twist was obvious when. Still, the story was really enjoyable.you find out Cereza was Bayonetta the whole time. I was honestly convinced of that the second I saw her
Calling this the evolution of action games isn't giving it enough credit. It has raised the bar so high that I am not even that my hype for God of War 3 has once again plummeted. Yeah I'll still buy it and probably enjoy it a great deal but I will be beyond shocked if it even holds a candle to this. Bayonetta is the new standard in which all action games should be judged.
I don't usually jump on the developer circle jerking bandwagon, but I'll make an exception here. KAMIYA IS A GOD!
Now to get my ass handed to me in hard mode
Crash Station
Member
Scythesurge said:If you haven't been on the Clover/Platinum circle jerking bandwagon for a number of years then you've been doing something wrong
I've loved pretty much everything Kamiya did before this but those were still creations of a very talented man. With Bayonetta, he has ascended to the level of God for me.
Fimbulvetr
Member
ShockingAlberto said:
Yep.
Scythesurge
Member
Resident Evil and DMC were enough for me, and all of his other great games just add to it. Bayonetta confirms his mastery even in the current gen and I can only hope he continues to create more fucking amazing games.cosmicblizzard said:
You can open them. Most of them are in very strange places. You're probably better off using a guide (after finding one by fluke in an absolutely ridiculous place, I gave up on looking for them myself). The blanks don't necessarily mean that you missed an Alfheim; a blank could also indicate that you passed through a verse without seeing or killing an (optional) enemy.thetrin said:
An example from Chapter III:
When you're in the volcano, just after you rebuild the bridge and it collapses behind you, some Decorations and some other weak enemies will appear. It is perfectly possible to skip these enemies entirely, resulting in a blank medal for the verse.
Bayonetta feels like a game developed by guys who do NOT have a whole bunch of money. The fighting remains a near constant 60fps, as it should, but outside of the fighting there's mysterious slowdown (like all of the sudden it will slowdown in a very plain, boring tunnel or alley) and just absolutely crazy screen tearing.
Doesn't affect the gameplay, which is huge and praise worthy, but definitely mars a good looking game.
Doesn't affect the gameplay, which is huge and praise worthy, but definitely mars a good looking game.
â Narayan
Member
Just got Durga.
I looked at the techniques list.
Holy fucking shit this game is dense.
I looked at the techniques list.
Holy fucking shit this game is dense.
Fimbulvetr
Member
Draft said:
Seriously, what is up with that.
Holy shit bullets, explosions, and enemies everywhere what is going oooooooon KJGKFV>J! = 60 fps
Walking down a mostly empty street = 45 FPS
ShockingAlberto
Member
The wilted flowers are a great touch.Fimbulvetr said:
Fimbulvetr
Member
I just remembered, I came here to ask the location of the last LP piece for the ice skates.
Yes, I've already got the one at the very beginning of the level and I got the one from Joy.
interestingly enough, if you read the fine print in the uk magazine adverts for it, it mentions the gfwl logo and trademarks in the fine print. there is no such logo on the advert, nor is there mention of gfwl in other ps360 only games.Zeliard said:Well, at least at this point. I'm assuming we'll eventually see a PC version of Bayonetta but who knows when that'll be. Has it been announced?
Edit: oh nm.
But yeah, regardless, a PC version of this game would be GLORIOUS. It has to happen eventually.
it'll come. eventually.
Man this game is so incredible. There is much to be said about a game with action gameplay so fucking pitch perfect that I can forget about the absurd trappings of the "too wacky" story and characters. I'm not from Japan so it's probably a cultural thing, but the gameplay transcends fucking all.
The visuals are a mixed bag, I think, some noticeable screen tearing, some low res textures in places, occasional lower geometry than I prefer to see, but the overall package is fucking so good. I mean it definitely has hiccups but even the framerate is really pretty good for a 360 game. And framerate is more important than low res textures, I tell you what!
Some of the challenges I find around the world (I forget the name of them, you go through a portal to do them) are so devious and so entertaining that I will spend ALL GODDAMN NIGHT trying to beat some of them. I consider myself to be a pretty great Devil May Cry player and a pretty decent Ninja Gaiden player, and an excellent God of War player, but Bayonetta is fucking bringing me to my knees on some of these challenges. I even got a little mini blister on my finger, a first for any game in any generation! My fingers are pussies!
Only wish I didn't have to start on Normal my first playthrough, was a waste of time. Too easy.
The visuals are a mixed bag, I think, some noticeable screen tearing, some low res textures in places, occasional lower geometry than I prefer to see, but the overall package is fucking so good. I mean it definitely has hiccups but even the framerate is really pretty good for a 360 game. And framerate is more important than low res textures, I tell you what!
Some of the challenges I find around the world (I forget the name of them, you go through a portal to do them) are so devious and so entertaining that I will spend ALL GODDAMN NIGHT trying to beat some of them. I consider myself to be a pretty great Devil May Cry player and a pretty decent Ninja Gaiden player, and an excellent God of War player, but Bayonetta is fucking bringing me to my knees on some of these challenges. I even got a little mini blister on my finger, a first for any game in any generation! My fingers are pussies!
Only wish I didn't have to start on Normal my first playthrough, was a waste of time. Too easy.
