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[Raxus]

Until you're learned the combos you want, try just holding down every button you press until you need to hit the next button. Then, when you dodge, you're already holding down the button and if that combo happens to have a pause section, you'll continue the combo naturally when you come out of the roll.

When you get used to the games unrelenting offense and less dodge, dodge, witchtime OFFENSE!, dodge, dodge... then things start to come together. At least it did for me. I find spamming dodge results in more hits than witchtime for me.

 

["God's Beard!"]

I am playing on easy, and have gotten "stones" at the end of chapters. Should I be concerned? How is scoring determined anyways?

Normally scores are determined by a few things:

How many of the battles per level you've found.
How fast each battle took you.
Combo count.
Damage taken.

But if you used items or continues, then your score drops to shit instantly. I've gotten golds and platinums on every battle and still gotten stones for using 3 continues.

When you get used to the games unrelenting offense and less dodge, dodge, witchtime OFFENSE!, dodge, dodge... then things start to come together. At least it did for me. I find spamming dodge results in more hits than witchtime for me.

I just wish that witch time wasn't necessary for certain enemies, because the game is much more fun without it.

 

[Raxus]

I am playing on easy, and have gotten "stones" at the end of chapters. Should I be concerned? How is scoring determined anyways?

Not really. Going through the chapter the first time would probably result in many deaths from the amount of 'new' enemies they toss at you that you have to learn the timing for. Plus the deaths from QTE's and falling to your doom happens as well. Needless to say your next playthroughs will hopefully be less... disastrous.

Even I still get stones and I find myself thinking, shit the game is taunting me calling me Enzo. Makes me want to play even more. I'll show you Bayonetta. I'll show you good. QUE THE MUSIC!

 

[Scythesurge]

I kinda just assumed that everyone posting in this thread were like platinum scoring masters, its nice to see others getting some stones too lol

 

["God's Beard!"]

I kinda just assumed that everyone posting in this thread were like platinum scoring masters, its nice to see others getting some stones too lol

Nobody gets consistent pure platinums on their first run through, even after mastering other action games. High scores come from tenacity and figuring out the system as much as they do from raw twitch reflexes.

 

[Korey]

Personally I find the stone trophies to be really funny and smile whenever I get one

Also, I found it hilarious that there was that "inverted controls" thread a couple days back where people were like "if you invert the Y-axis, then how come not the X-axis?" and then Bayonetta does just that by default (personally, I found it to be a weird choice).

 

[Raxus]

Nobody gets consistent pure platinums on their first run through, even after mastering other action games. High scores come from tenacity and figuring out the system as much as they do from raw twitch reflexes.

Even then the first time through you will get pummeled and lack all of your techniques to help keep the combos flowing like breakdancing and the shapeshifting.

To start building from stones on first playthroughts get:
1)Techniques you can see yourself using in battle.
2)Health once Rodan allows you to purchase hearts in the shop.
3)Pearls so you can use your magic gauge for special techniques and more torture attacks and it will take forever to get a second "full" gauge.
4)Progress: Get the cat form(

Spoiler

Chapter V

) and the raven form so platforming is easier and long verses are shorter.

 

["God's Beard!"]

I never bought any magic/health upgrades :lol

 

[Raxus]

I am just buying the magic upgrades for the torture attacks to shorten the time in verses and build my score but man I thought pearls would extend my meter further than one measly pearl.

 

["God's Beard!"]

I am just buying the magic upgrades for the torture attacks to shorten the time in verses and build my score but man I thought pearls would extend my meter further than one measly pearl.

I spent all my money on costumes I don't even like :-(

 

[Raxus]

Heh you should have saved and got the Alt functions for the guns or one of the ridiculously expensive accessories. I was thinking about saving up and getting the taunt/health regeneration one.

 

[Amon37]

you should be able to get through Normal mode in a rental period. depending on your skill, the single-player campaign takes around 8 hours.

Exactly

I'm on normal run just getting through the game and am at 6.5 hours at chapter 12.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Heh you should have saved and got the Alt functions for the guns or one of the ridiculously expensive accessories. I was thinking about saving up and getting the taunt/health regeneration one.

I did buy the taunt accessory, but it kinda sucks. What to the alts do?

 

[Shito]

I just wish that witch time wasn't necessary for certain enemies, because the game is much more fun without it.

The game is pretty much structured in such a way that it slowly leads you to using it less and less, to the point where it forbids you to do so in the last difficulty mode, relying on parries instead.
So, yeah, I'd say keep on playing and unlocking stuff. : )

What to the alts do?

A second set of these weapons so you can dual wield them.

 

["God's Beard!"]

The game is pretty much structured in such a way that it slowly leads you to using it less and less, to the point where it forbids you to do so in the last difficulty mode, relying on parries instead.
So, yeah, I'd say keep on playing and unlocking stuff. : )

:-o Hell yeah. I'll definitely finish hard mode by the weekend, so that sounds awesome.

 

[Raxus]

Nevermind someone beat me to it.

 

["God's Beard!"]

I have not saved for the alts so don't quote me on this but at the moment you can only equip the shotguns for example you just your arms or legs but not both at the same time. I would assume the Alt function allows you to load the shotguns to both your feet and arms at the same time.

That... sounds like it sucks. Why would I want to do that? Just for fun?

 

[Shito]

That... sounds like it sucks. Why would I want to do that? Just for fun?

I find it reaaaaally fun and useful for Durga, so to have both electricity and fire at the same time: speed and powerful finishers!
The other ones are more of a "because we can!" kind of thing, in my mind.

 

[forgrim]

Speed demons...i'm on chapter VIII and i'm on hour 8. Admittingly, I finished all the Alfheims i've encountered [10ish] and i've failed those many many times which added a couple hours to my gametime.

 

[danmaku]

:-o Hell yeah. I'll definitely finish hard mode by the weekend, so that sounds awesome.

You can also buy the rosary (or whatever is called in the english version), it gives you an automatic attack instead of witch time when you dodge correctly.

 

[Lostconfused]

The game is pretty much structured in such a way that it slowly leads you to using it less and less, to the point where it forbids you to do so in the last difficulty mode, relying on parries instead.
So, yeah, I'd say keep on playing and unlocking stuff. : )

Which really bothered me. Some enemies were just to dangerous to attack without witch time but dodging an attack didn't activate it either, so you couldn't really hit them but playing defensively was pointless as well. So I just stood around holding the x button until they died.

 

[ravien56]

So I'm only on chapter 2 but does the rest of the game have so many cinematics? I felt like I was playing a Final Fantasy game.:/

 

[LiK]

So I'm only on chapter 2 but does the rest of the game have so many cinematics? I felt like I was playing a Final Fantasy game.:/

Yea, I'm surprised at how lengthy they are. Some of the later action cutscenes are good but there are some talkie ones I can live without.

 

[Raxus]

So I'm only on chapter 2 but does the rest of the game have so many cinematics? I felt like I was playing a Final Fantasy game.:/

The cinematics and QTE's taper down pretty quickly once as you progress but I imagine the ending will be full of them as well. At least you can skip them by holding down the R2+L2 (or triggers) and select key to skip them if you have seen the cinematic or just don't care about the story.

 

[ravien56]

The cinematics and QTE's taper down pretty quickly once as you progress but I imagine the ending will be full of them as well. At least you can skip them by holding down the R2+L2 (or triggers) and select key to skip them if you have seen the cinematic or just don't care about the story.

No I don't wanna skip them, I wanna know whats going on story wise, I just cant till I beat it so I can replay it and skip all of them.

 

[Lostconfused]

No I don't wanna skip them, I wanna know whats going on story wise, I just cant till I beat it so I can replay it and skip all of them.

Don't worry about it. Really there is no story in this game at all.

 

[Glass Brain]

This game is incredible. I get such a Treasure vibe from it. That is a beautiful thing.

 

[Semblance]

Game is everything I could have ever hoped for and then some. I can't remember the last time I nerded out so much over something like this.

Really needs more Enzo, though ...

 

[Lostconfused]

Really needs more Enzo, though ...

Didn't get too many stone trophies yet?

 

[∀ Narayan]

This game is incredible. I get such a Treasure vibe from it. That is a beautiful thing.

Treasure has never made anything remotely close to Bayonetta, so, I don't understand what you're getting at.

I get a Clover vibe from it, if anything.

 

[Semblance]

Only one thus far. I want the man in more cut scenes!

 

[bhytre]

The gameplay becomes too much fun when you're used to Dodge Offset, it's great for the slower weapons too.

Also, fighting 3 of those golden claw enemies (forgot their name) at the same time in hard mode is just... <3

 

[LiK]

Don't worry about it. Really there is no story in this game at all.

There's some tiny bit of story there, but it's all just so convoluted by the way they present it. I think the journals actually do a better job with fleshing out the world.

Btw, I get more of a Ninja Gaiden vibe from this game compared to DMC. But it feels like a good amalgam of both series, imo

 

[Raxus]

Don't worry about it. Really there is no story in this game at all.

Seriously. I watch the scenes to get a cheap laugh and then go to slay some angels. NG:Black's cutscenes though were king of cutscenes that don't need to be there other than these guys killed your clan go fuck them sideways. Hell the enemies at the beginning didn't even do anything to warrant getting their heads sliced off. Other than that it was more or less 'things happen guess you gotta kill this now'.

If you play games for stories anyway you may want to look into reading as a hobby.

 

[Lostconfused]

Seriously. I watch the scenes to get a cheap laugh and then go to slay some angels. NG:Black's cutscenes though were king of cutscenes that don't need to be there other than these guys killed your clan go fuck them sideways. Hell the enemies at the beginning didn't even do anything to warrant getting their heads sliced off. Other than that it was more or less 'things happen guess you gotta kill this now'.

The whole story is. Bayonetta needs to kill angels or she goes to hell, so the entire game she goes around killing angels. Sometimes Jeanne picks a fight with her because apparently she has nothing else to do with her boring and dull life.

 

[Raxus]

The whole story is. Bayonetta needs to kill angels or she goes to hell, so the entire game she goes around killing angels. Sometimes Jeanne picks a fight with her because apparently she has nothing else to do with her boring and dull life.

There now lets do a breakdance of death woo!

 

[Shito]

Also, fighting 3 of those golden claw enemies (forgot their name) at the same time in hard mode is just... <3

Gracious & Glorious, badass golden version of Grace & Glory. : )

 

["God's Beard!"]

What's everyone's Angel Attack high scores? Mine's 110

Is there any point to buying items with AA points? It seems like they cost more than they would by just converting them to halos...

Also, just bought Gaze of Despair so that I won't feel like I'm cheating once I start buying magic upgrades :lol

 

[randomwab]

Oh shit oh shit, just got home from work to a ton of packages, one of which is Climax Edition! Oh god yes!

 

[Sub_Level]

Not sure I liked the 2 or 3 random "press X/Square" QTEs they threw at you in the earlier chapters that never came back again. They used Jump + Forward" a couple times, "Y + B/Triangle + Circle" a lot, and even though "steer with Square/X" only came up in one battle that was actually a cool segment. The random X QTEs were just plain cheap. Other than that, my only gripe with the game was having to press 5 buttons; "start-Down-Enter-Left-Enter"; to skip a simple cutscene instead of just pressing once button. Oh, and the transition from the "world map" to the "store-start-save" screen would've been awesome with no loading screen. Other than that, great game, and will start my Hard run later today. Going to try it with the Claws and that Moon accessory I saved up for.

 

[SonicX_Zero]

Other than the QTE's the game has been pretty awesome. Just about to start chap. 5 and I'm pumped after chap. 4~!

 

[Fimbulvetr]

I find it reaaaaally fun and useful for Durga, so to have both electricity and fire at the same time: speed and powerful finishers!
The other ones are more of a "because we can!" kind of thing, in my mind.

Plus the PPPPK combo changes when you have claws on both hands and legs, I think.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Do you have to do anything for gaze of despair to work? The boss on hard whith wearing it didn't seem any more difficult than on normal without it. I almost beat him first try, too, but I got killed when he only had half an inch of the last health bar left, and when I continued, I finished that section without getting hit, which really pisses me off :-( :-(

 

[sonicmj1]

Other than that, my only gripe with the game was having to press 5 buttons; "start-Down-Enter-Left-Enter"; to skip a simple cutscene instead of just pressing once button.

R2/RT + Select/Back skips cutscenes without even a confirmation message.

 

[Raxus]

R2/RT + Select/Back skips cutscenes without even a confirmation message.

Still it makes you wonder why they didn't bother to just put in the simple press start to skip in the game. My minor gripes come from just the piss poor menu for customization and the skipping cutscenes are convoluted for absolutely no reason.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Still it makes you wonder why they didn't bother to just put in the simple press start to skip in the game.

So people can pause the cutscenes if they need to do something?

 

[sonicmj1]

Still it makes you wonder why they didn't bother to just put in the simple press start to skip in the game. My minor gripes come from just the piss poor menu for customization and the skipping cutscenes are convoluted for absolutely no reason.

It's nice to have cutscenes that you can pause.

Platinum probably should have made it more obvious what the button combination to skip a cutscene was, but I appreciate the dual function. Given how long the cutscenes occasionally go for, it's nice to be able to take a break from them if you have to without being forced to skip.

 

[Peff]

Still it makes you wonder why they didn't bother to just put in the simple press start to skip in the game. My minor gripes come from just the piss poor menu for customization and the skipping cutscenes are convoluted for absolutely no reason.

Just in case you want to actually pause them instead of skipping them (a telephone call, for example).

 

[LiK]

So people can pause the cutscenes if they need to do something?

Yea

 

[Jigsaw]

What's everyone's Angel Attack high scores? Mine's 110

Is there any point to buying items with AA points? It seems like they cost more than they would by just converting them to halos...

my high score was 123

in the shop he wont sell you more lollipops if you have more than 3 (or 1 mega lollipop),with aa points you dont have restrictions