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Baloonatic
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Just encountered a really lame bug where one of the Alfheims wouldn't add up my torture attacks. The counter got stuck on 2 even though I performed 5 of them by the end. Is there any other reason that they wouldn't count?
Baloonatic
Member
Ooooh, I see. My own stupid fault I guess. Thanks for clearing that up.
Lovely article on Bayonetta by Leigh Alexander:
http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/213466/bayonetta-empowering-or-exploitative/
directed from Tycho's post which more or less talks about the same thing:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/
http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/213466/bayonetta-empowering-or-exploitative/
directed from Tycho's post which more or less talks about the same thing:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/
Damn, I'm enjoying this game even more after beating it, I could just keep playing random chapters and never get tired of it.
QUESTION: So I'm working on unlocking all of Bayonetta's costumes. Whats with the "Umbran Elegance 0x" in Rodin's Treasures, I bought a few thinking they were costumes, they say that they're perfect fits for certain weapons but I can't find out how to use/equip them. I just bought the Queen outfit, it sounded nice. <3
In regards to the articles posted above me....Yeah, Bayonetta's sexuality is pretty extreme, but I feel she's more empowering than exploitative. She isn't just a sex object, like most female characters, she's dominant, cool, powerful and the heroine of the story. Most of the music and the artsyle in this game has a feminine touch to it as well, which is cool. I'm a man, so I guess my opinion isn't that valid, but I think Bayonetta is a strong female character (which is rare in VG) even with the exaggerated proportions and sexiness.
QUESTION: So I'm working on unlocking all of Bayonetta's costumes. Whats with the "Umbran Elegance 0x" in Rodin's Treasures, I bought a few thinking they were costumes, they say that they're perfect fits for certain weapons but I can't find out how to use/equip them. I just bought the Queen outfit, it sounded nice. <3
In regards to the articles posted above me....Yeah, Bayonetta's sexuality is pretty extreme, but I feel she's more empowering than exploitative. She isn't just a sex object, like most female characters, she's dominant, cool, powerful and the heroine of the story. Most of the music and the artsyle in this game has a feminine touch to it as well, which is cool. I'm a man, so I guess my opinion isn't that valid, but I think Bayonetta is a strong female character (which is rare in VG) even with the exaggerated proportions and sexiness.
Yeah, I've never felt that Bayonetta was exploitative while playing the game. She's extremely self-confident and constantly talks mad shit, she adores showing off her voluptuous figure, and she toys with and taunts her enemies throughout. There's nothing that feels exploitative about the sexuality because it's all perfectly in-character, and it's played out that way.
Monocle
Member
Yeah, just use X gunfire to position yourself, then take them out with P combos using the whip.Fimbulvetr said:
It's great to watch Bayonetta's advanced game slowly emerge. This moment feels like the first few months after DMC3's launch, when that game was ripe to bursting with untapped potential. I'm especially impressed by the way that player guides enemies into distant Durga bombs. Kulshedra almost seems custom made for that purpose. (I can't wait to see people start to use its swing throwhold P, rotate stick for as long as desired, Pto hurl about angels with great precision.) Another revelation was that dodge offset can be indefinitely extended with the panther form. Nifty.viewtiful_dru said:
In case someone can't figure out how to Finisher Cancel, you just hit jump and an attack button in very rapid succession during the action you want to interrupt. Sliding your finger from one button to the other works best. (Coincidentally, the input is very similar to jump canceling in DMC3.) So, where = near-simultaneous input of the commands on both sides, ~ = a slight delay between commands, and J = jump, the inputs for a sequence of FCed PKPs would be PKPJP~KP. Each repetition of the highlighted part adds one more PKP to the string. While practicing on empty air can be helpful, remember that your timing will need to be adjusted for the slowdown effect that occurs when you hit an enemy (Just like Exceed inputs in DMC4.)
You can jump as soon as the Wicked Slice starts, and if you input P fast enough after the jump, you'll touch the ground as soon as the hit comes out and you won't need to delay the inputs for the last two hits (KP) for very long. I got a string going that was even faster than the demonstration in the video. The first strike of the follow-up combo can actually be made to hit at the same time as the preceding combo finisher.
By the way, FCing can't be used to chain ground combos with weapons like Scarborough Fair, whose basic air attack sends you much too high off the ground, no matter how fast the input. You can still do a nice transition into an aerial string, though.
I read some articles at Wired and the AV Club slamming the game because of the gratuitous sexuality. I don't believe the authors of the article recognized that the game is intentionally overplaying sex angle and you aren't supposed to take it seriously. I stopped caring about Bayonetta getting naked to do attacks about 30 minutes into the game, primarily because I was having so much fun.Darkpen said:
Monocle
Member
Bayonetta never once struck me as exploitative because she's the one doing all the exploiting. Even while the camera explores all her curves, she's in full control and she knows it. To paraphrase the girl in that one sex documentary, she's the queen of your cock.
To be fair, Joy's intro is slightly questionable. Or it would be if the game weren't a consistent, deliberate parody of all its subject matter.
To be fair, Joy's intro is slightly questionable. Or it would be if the game weren't a consistent, deliberate parody of all its subject matter.
I knew this game would be great before I tried it. But one moment sealed the deal for me GAF. When the action in the beginning starts off and Bayonetta starts kicking ass the song "Fly Me to the Moon" comes on. I was hit by a wet sack of love juice. Platinum Games was able to tap into my NGE fandom by including a song that elicits a sort of Pavlovian response from me. Now it is impossible for me to critically evaluate this game. I'd say something silly like "Game of the year so far", but no.
L0st Id3ntity
Member
Started the game yesterday and I like it.
My only gripe so far is the long and boring cut-scenes, just let me play dammit. (I don't skip cut-scenes... not an option)
My only gripe so far is the long and boring cut-scenes, just let me play dammit. (I don't skip cut-scenes... not an option)
Snuggler said:
Skates - Chapter 6
Kilgore - Chapter 9(I think)
To be more specific,
for the skates, turn around right at the start for a piece. When you get to the area you fight the dragon at, jump into the water and go to your left to see a cluster of rocks covering a piece. The third can't be missed(fighting joy) so you should have that already.
For kilgore, there's a piece after the first fight. You need to put the key in that statue then search around and break the door with the sun symbol on it. One side has an alfheim, the other has a disc piece. Another piece is at the platforming part, where the road of light has a piece of it missing, it's right after a gate of hell location and around the part where the golem keeps trying to smash you. You can jump across to the other side and keep following that path to see another sun door to break. I think the third piece is from a fight you can't miss, but I'm not certain.
For kilgore, there's a piece after the first fight. You need to put the key in that statue then search around and break the door with the sun symbol on it. One side has an alfheim, the other has a disc piece. Another piece is at the platforming part, where the road of light has a piece of it missing, it's right after a gate of hell location and around the part where the golem keeps trying to smash you. You can jump across to the other side and keep following that path to see another sun door to break. I think the third piece is from a fight you can't miss, but I'm not certain.
So I'm up to chapter 12 and only just equipped Darga. Damn, should have equipped it ages ago! Matched with Shuraba it makes p-p-p-p-p-p-k absolutely devastating and ideal for taking out Grace/Glory.
Iustitia was absolutely insane, and would probably be my most-enjoyed boss so far if only for the silly insta-death that follows a failed QTE. Gotta admit the QTE's feel poorly implemented and entirely unnecessary.
Oh, and I finally got the Moon of Mahala Kala. Yet to try it out.
Iustitia was absolutely insane, and would probably be my most-enjoyed boss so far if only for the silly insta-death that follows a failed QTE. Gotta admit the QTE's feel poorly implemented and entirely unnecessary.
Oh, and I finally got the Moon of Mahala Kala. Yet to try it out.
Just finished the game.
HOLY SHIT at the last few chapters. Most ridiculously, insanely cool sequences ever. I am blown away.
From a story standpoint, although a lot of it didn't make much sense, I still enjoyed it quite a bit. The only thing that kind of irked me was
Although come to think of it, trying to discuss the storyline of mother-fucking Bayonetta probably isn't very wise to begin with.:lol
HOLY SHIT at the last few chapters. Most ridiculously, insanely cool sequences ever. I am blown away.
From a story standpoint, although a lot of it didn't make much sense, I still enjoyed it quite a bit. The only thing that kind of irked me was
the fact that Jeanne was secretly "brainwashed" by Balder for 90% of the game. That seemed like a genuinely stupid plot device. Sure the rest of it is ridiculous but I almost did a face palm when he said that. Even the time-travel Cereza paradox I can live with, this just cheapens Jeanne's role as Bayonetta's rival. (although she did kind of make up for it with the epicness contained in the final chapter.)
Although come to think of it, trying to discuss the storyline of mother-fucking Bayonetta probably isn't very wise to begin with.:lol
patrickthehedgehog
Member
Jeez, near the end of the game I couldn't help missing almost every QTE. Were they less forgiving? I had a really hard time with the "Y+A" ones.
Baloonatic
Member
Am I meant to unlock something after completing all the Alfheims?
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
yep, when you finish the chapter you'll unlock Bayonetta's Bloody Palace, the Lost Chapter.Baloonatic said:
now for my own question: I bet the game on Very Easy, but I didn't unlock the immortal marionette? what's up with that?
Baloonatic
Member
Rez said:
Shit, I quit to the chapter menu after finishing the last one. Can I just finish any chapter and still get it?
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
hmm, not sure. I'm going to assume that the answer to that is 'yes', but don't quote me on it. try it on the prologue or something.Baloonatic said:
Baloonatic
Member
Yeah that worked. I was worried there for a second.
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
ah, that did the trick. I was checking the store, but the difficulty was set to Easy. Cheers.Papercuts said:
Just looking for general pointers on Alfheims.
I've been avoiding them thus far, as I was advised they detract from the core game for the first play-through. Am I right to assume that there is one per chapter, minus boss-only chapters? How many all up.
Spoiler tag response for others benefit if you like, otherwise I don't mind.
I've been avoiding them thus far, as I was advised they detract from the core game for the first play-through. Am I right to assume that there is one per chapter, minus boss-only chapters? How many all up.
Spoiler tag response for others benefit if you like, otherwise I don't mind.
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
there are Alfheims in all the chapters except for the prologue, 8, 14 and the cardinals, but the amount varies per chapter.
if you want a list, click here.
I don't think this is a spoiler, but I'll mark it anyway. Here's the amount of Alfheims in each chapter, without spoiling their location:
if you want a list, click here.
I don't think this is a spoiler, but I'll mark it anyway. Here's the amount of Alfheims in each chapter, without spoiling their location:
P: none
C1: 1
C2: 3
C3: 4
C4: none
C5: 3
C6: 1
C7: none
C8: none
C9: three
C10: two
C11: none
C12: two
C13: none
C14: none
C15: one
C16: none
E: one
C1: 1
C2: 3
C3: 4
C4: none
C5: 3
C6: 1
C7: none
C8: none
C9: three
C10: two
C11: none
C12: two
C13: none
C14: none
C15: one
C16: none
E: one
HUELEN10
Member
Rez, I don't want to be totally spoiled, yet I want to know if this is true...
POSSIBLY HUGE GAME SPOILERS/UNLOCKABLE SPOILERS/STORY SPOILERS
So, is this legit, or is my friend spouting off BS?
POSSIBLY HUGE GAME SPOILERS/UNLOCKABLE SPOILERS/STORY SPOILERS
Is it true that you can unlock Jeanne by pressing "Up, Up, Up, Up, Down, Down, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B" near some telephone booth somewhere in the game? The reason I ask is because I've also heard that you need platinums in all levels in at least normal to get her, and maybe this is an alternate method? Something a buddy IMed to me, but I am too scared to search around and be spoiled with stuff that I might care about, so I hope you guys understand.
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Deleted member 30609
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like Remz said, it is legit, but you need a million halos.HUELEN10 said:
Dabookerman
Member
Dreavus said:
Seriously, it is the most pointless thing in the world. :lol
I had no idea, and still don't know what's it all about.
Monocle
Member
Heh, play through the full game. Then give hard mode a try. Once it's unlocked you can play any chapter on that difficulty. See what you think of Bayonetta then.Dark FaZe said:
Edit:
That kind of statement wouldn't be nearly as silly as you might think. Games like Bayonetta don't come along every day. Clearly, it's something extraordinary.Niblet said:
Oh please, just use the bloody code._Xenon_ said:
Bayonetta was so totally off my radar 'til the demo came. It didn't blow me away but it got my attention. I still didn't like the character Bayonetta or the artstyle but the gameplay was solid enough so I bought it when it came.
Now I've completed chapter 7 and wow ... this game blows me away. To me, this game just blows DMC out of the water. It's just such a joy to play and the stuff that happens just gets me everytime.
Kudos Team Little Angels. Great game. Great piece of art.
Now I've completed chapter 7 and wow ... this game blows me away. To me, this game just blows DMC out of the water. It's just such a joy to play and the stuff that happens just gets me everytime.
Kudos Team Little Angels. Great game. Great piece of art.
I'm finding the only enemies I'm having trouble with are grace/glory and it's not necessarily because of nullified witch time. I've noticed that I can typically wipe the first of the pair (usually go for the blue one first) with losing next to no health, and can get the last one down to half health before I get juggled or my combos get cancelled. Does their attack pattern change up when you get them to low health, or am I just losing focus late in the fight? Last time I fought them was their first appearance in gold/white form.
The whole game is really clicking with me, it's just that there's still these niggling little confrontations here and there where I seem to hit a brick wall. I'm hardly ever using items and should probably try out more weapons. Currently only have access to the shotguns, Darga, the whip, and Shuraba.
Edit: Also, bosses seem really really easy on normal.
The whole game is really clicking with me, it's just that there's still these niggling little confrontations here and there where I seem to hit a brick wall. I'm hardly ever using items and should probably try out more weapons. Currently only have access to the shotguns, Darga, the whip, and Shuraba.
Edit: Also, bosses seem really really easy on normal.
Baloonatic
Member
What does the Climax Bracelet do?
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
oh god, brb, going to collect me some pigeons 0_0Monocle said:
Bernbaum said:
You're playing on normal right? You should still be able to get witch time off of a few attacks from Grace and Glory, which are the the blue and red ones (unless you're using that one accessory). It's Gracious and Glorious who completely nullify witch time and are overall a bigger pain in the ass (the black and white ones). I only remember fighting that variation once in my normal mode play through but holy shit did they give me problems.
dragonlife
Member
God, I love this game so much.
I've always enjoyed action games but never really beat many (God of War left unfinished; never bought II; DMC series left mostly unplayed, even though I own them all).
But Bayonetta...there's something special about it and I love it. I can't believe how obsessed I've become with it. I also appreciate that it's not unreasonable to people like me who aren't exactly the best at this genre. I like starting with full health after a game over and stuff (and frequent save spots). I do try my best and have gotten some Platinums and one Pure Platinum on normal
This has definitely become one of my favorite games--and, honestly, I planned on getting it ever since the original trailer and the subsequent info.
PlatinumGames <3
I've always enjoyed action games but never really beat many (God of War left unfinished; never bought II; DMC series left mostly unplayed, even though I own them all).
But Bayonetta...there's something special about it and I love it. I can't believe how obsessed I've become with it. I also appreciate that it's not unreasonable to people like me who aren't exactly the best at this genre. I like starting with full health after a game over and stuff (and frequent save spots). I do try my best and have gotten some Platinums and one Pure Platinum on normal
This has definitely become one of my favorite games--and, honestly, I planned on getting it ever since the original trailer and the subsequent info.
PlatinumGames <3