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Chamber said:
Are talking the scene towards the end where you're sort of ... running vertically along the platforms trying to get to the upside-down silo at the top? That part's pretty easy.. just wait until the platforms reappear near you and then just make your way on over. Then once you're on the other side, you can move along from there around the silo if you have to. The platforms actually disappear fairly slowly.
I decided to jump into the whole sexual debate surrounding Bayonetta, more or less in its defense. Feel free to have a read. In the meantime I'm not sure where to go with the game.. I don't want to do hard mode :lol I hate fighting non-witch time enemies.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I used scarborough fair for my entire normal run. I didn't change weapons until hard.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Crow mode.Chamber said:
Alternatively, just jump around with the panther jump.
You can clear that in like fifteen seconds if you don't worry about platinuming the hidden verse there.
I have to turn this off and just do it tomorrow. I know how simple it is and yet I keep fucking up and falling back down to the start.
Fuck me.
EDIT - It just occurred to me that I was fucking myself by double jumping which caused me to lose my "grip" on the platforms. I'm an idiot.
Fuck me.
EDIT - It just occurred to me that I was fucking myself by double jumping which caused me to lose my "grip" on the platforms. I'm an idiot.
Slowly going along getting all the alfheims, broken moon pieces, and witch hearts before tackling hard. Managed to Platinum the prolouge through chapter 3 so far, feels pretty awesome when you PP multiple verses in a row. And Draft wasn't kidding about breaking the trash can to make an alfheim appear, wow. Even after you break it the game doesn't even cut to showing it to you, it just appears somewhere else. :lol
Some of them are actually pretty fun, I liked using the angel weapons and the no witch time stuff, but some of these are just retarded. Kill all the angels using weaves where any normal attack is deflected? Uhhh, okay. I ended up getting a silver out of all my PPs, Ps, and Golds which sucked. It ended up mainly being the time I took, because I thought I would need to use longer combos that ended in weaves, guess the game just wanted me to spam PKP...how fun. And despite getting a plat on chapter 3, I still got ripped off with the last verse. The last angel just fell off the bridge and didn't die, yet I couldn't see it/it never came back. Impossible to complete verse, woo.
Some of them are actually pretty fun, I liked using the angel weapons and the no witch time stuff, but some of these are just retarded. Kill all the angels using weaves where any normal attack is deflected? Uhhh, okay. I ended up getting a silver out of all my PPs, Ps, and Golds which sucked. It ended up mainly being the time I took, because I thought I would need to use longer combos that ended in weaves, guess the game just wanted me to spam PKP...how fun. And despite getting a plat on chapter 3, I still got ripped off with the last verse. The last angel just fell off the bridge and didn't die, yet I couldn't see it/it never came back. Impossible to complete verse, woo.
ShockingAlberto
Member
The wicked weave alfheims are really hard if you're using the guns on your hands.
If you have a sword, though, the PKP combo just annihilates everything in the room. It does a lot of damage and kills everything in just a few hits.
If you have a sword, though, the PKP combo just annihilates everything in the room. It does a lot of damage and kills everything in just a few hits.
Wicked Weave alfheims are even more super simple if you have one of those skills that allows you to do an instant Wicked Weave by pressing back, forward, P/K. 
I was kind of surprised by how easy the alfheims were on normal. The limited punches and kicks ones are intimidating until you realize that Shuraba's charged attack only counts as a single punch.
I was kind of surprised by how easy the alfheims were on normal. The limited punches and kicks ones are intimidating until you realize that Shuraba's charged attack only counts as a single punch.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
I'm only on chapter 3 right now...
What the FUCK am I playing?
I have NO idea what the fuck is going on. I have NO idea why I am where the fuck I am. I have NO idea what the other characters are, why they're doing what they're doing, and why they're helping me.
Fighting is alright, not as stylish as DMC, but the graphics and pacing is better.
I'm not saying the game is total turd. It's obvious a lot of love went into the designs and the world and everything...but...I am disappoint with Famitsu's score and the hype for this game.
What the FUCK am I playing?
I have NO idea what the fuck is going on. I have NO idea why I am where the fuck I am. I have NO idea what the other characters are, why they're doing what they're doing, and why they're helping me.
Fighting is alright, not as stylish as DMC, but the graphics and pacing is better.
I'm not saying the game is total turd. It's obvious a lot of love went into the designs and the world and everything...but...I am disappoint with Famitsu's score and the hype for this game.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Kuro Madoushi said:
What is there possibly to be confused about? Bayonetta is a witch. Witches make a pact with Inferno that they must dispatch angels in order to stay on earth. She's trying to recover her memories. Those that help her probably get paid pretty well.
How you don't just get that from the cut scenes is beyond me.
Kuro Madoushi said:
Yeah, the game is pretty much information overload from the beginning; I love it but some people are turned off. I'm on chapter X and I think the combat is better or at least neck and neck with DMC3. I just turn my brain off and watched the ridiculous epicness when it comes to watching the cutscenes.
thetrin said:
I've heard a ton of people saying "I don't know whats going on but it's awesome!" and I'm not sure if they're being serious or not. If you don't skip cutscenes on your first play through it's pretty easy to figure out what is going on. You are kept in the dark for a few things but they are revealed by the end of the game.
The storyline is over-the-top and ridiculous but it's not indecipherable.
ConcealedBlaze
Member
Kuro Madoushi said:
I had the same impression as you at first, but once you get up to hard difficulty and learn the system, the combat is AT LEAST as stylish and deep as DMC3.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
ZeroRay said:
The beautiful thing about Bayonetta, is that you're constantly thinking "how can they top this?" yet somehow, they CONSTANTLY DO.
Dreavus said:
Sure, the twists that come with the development of the story are not revealed, but the game's story is pretty damn straightforward (if not simplistic).
I was very confused who Rodin was at first, but that was pretty much answered pretty quickly.
TheCardPlayer
Likes to have "friends" around to "play cards" with
Roto13 said:
"Holy fuck, this is epic. I'm fighting a giant dragon angel with two heads in a fucking coliseum, where it was worshipped as a god. Oh shit, he's destroying the level in real time, and I have to rewind time itself to rebuild that shit, so I can jump to him and rip his heads off. Holy shit, did he just create a gigantic volcanic eruption that blasted us into fucking space?OH SNAP! Did I just summon, a giant demonic bird to rip into him and then procedeed to kick pieces of the planet into his fucking face? Best final boss ever. Well that was short...Wait, what do you mean? THIS WAS THE FIRST FUCKING BOSS?"
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
thetrin said:
I read nothing except gameplay reviews prior to playing this.
I know she's a witch. They make a pact to stay on Earth? Sure as hell didn't see that in any cutscene so far. Trying to recover her memories? I got that.
Game just throws you in there. Hell, just the opening was enough of an in-your-face shocker.
Then, suddenly, you're just moving from spot to spot and over-the-top fight to over-the-top fight.
Then there's a dude with a bar who goes somewhere and comes back with weapons.
Then there's a chick with a motorcycle...
sigh...I'll just play it some more and hopefully more will stick.
thebaroness
Member
Holy Shit.
Holy Shit.
I just beat it, and I must say wow. My heart is still pumping. That was some epic stuff. Now I look forward to going back and unlocking everything and getting better awards (I pretty much got stones across the board haha).
Was it just me and my boyfriend, or did anyone else pick up on the numerous Dragonball references?
Holy Shit.
I just beat it, and I must say wow. My heart is still pumping. That was some epic stuff. Now I look forward to going back and unlocking everything and getting better awards (I pretty much got stones across the board haha).
Man the boss fight was Jeanne was so kick ass. I was in tears when I thought she was dead. I really grew attached to her.
Then we she showed up at rescue Bayonetta at the end I was leaping off my couch.
And Father Baldur just furthers the theory that David Bowie is in every game ever.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=371406&page=6&highlight=david+bowie
Then we she showed up at rescue Bayonetta at the end I was leaping off my couch.
And Father Baldur just furthers the theory that David Bowie is in every game ever.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=371406&page=6&highlight=david+bowie
Was it just me and my boyfriend, or did anyone else pick up on the numerous Dragonball references?
Tokubetsu
Member
Kuro Madoushi said:
I agree that it's hard to follow and fucking stupid A LOT of the time but a lot of what he was saying was inferred. Rodin is from inferno, he goes there to forge new weapons by playing the records you bring him that attracts angels and that some how helps him forge shit (halos I'm assuming). Jeanne was something like a rival, thats pretty obvious. They never explain WHY exactly you know where to go and never completely explain the setting but yeah.
Tokubetsu said:
No no no. Major story spoilers that explain the whole game to those who didn't get it:
Rodin summons demons with the records and makes weapons out of their captured souls (a homage to/the exact same thing as DMC Devil Arms). The residents of Inferno use angels' halos as currency, so Rodin accepts them as payment. Jeanne was a friend/rival 500 years ago, before Bayonetta was sealed away, but she's under Balder's control for the majority of the game.
The reason Bayonetta takes a break from angel slaying to appease the lords of Inferno and goes to Vigrid is because one of the few memories she has retained is the knowledge that the Eye of the World is important to her. She thinks it's a pair to the jewel she wears and that it'll restore her memory. In fact, the jewel once contained her soul when she was defeated by Jeanne 500 years ago and has nothing to do with the Left Eye, but Balder knows she has no idea what the Eye really is. He puts out the word of its existence on the black market to lure her to him via her informant, Enzo. When Bayonetta takes the bait, Balder summons Cereza from the past in order for her to see how awesome Bayonetta is. Bayonetta won't awaken the Umbran Eye because, though awesome, she's not ready or whatever. So Balder wants her to be influenced by her awesome adult self as a child so that she becomes an even more awesome adult through the magic of paradoxes. By influencing her child-self as Cereza and allowing her to witness her own awesome battles against incredible enemies (battles all staged by Balder as sacrifices to his greater goal) Bayonetta levels up and gains the power to awaken the Left Eye of the Umbra - thus allowing Balder to open the Right Eye of the Lumen, reunite the Eyes of the World, and resurrect Jubileus, who will destroy and recreate the universe under Balder's influence. This would suck, so Jeanne - released from Balder's power - saves Bayonetta, and they kick Jubileus's ass, and then Bayonetta makes a music video.
The reason Bayonetta takes a break from angel slaying to appease the lords of Inferno and goes to Vigrid is because one of the few memories she has retained is the knowledge that the Eye of the World is important to her. She thinks it's a pair to the jewel she wears and that it'll restore her memory. In fact, the jewel once contained her soul when she was defeated by Jeanne 500 years ago and has nothing to do with the Left Eye, but Balder knows she has no idea what the Eye really is. He puts out the word of its existence on the black market to lure her to him via her informant, Enzo. When Bayonetta takes the bait, Balder summons Cereza from the past in order for her to see how awesome Bayonetta is. Bayonetta won't awaken the Umbran Eye because, though awesome, she's not ready or whatever. So Balder wants her to be influenced by her awesome adult self as a child so that she becomes an even more awesome adult through the magic of paradoxes. By influencing her child-self as Cereza and allowing her to witness her own awesome battles against incredible enemies (battles all staged by Balder as sacrifices to his greater goal) Bayonetta levels up and gains the power to awaken the Left Eye of the Umbra - thus allowing Balder to open the Right Eye of the Lumen, reunite the Eyes of the World, and resurrect Jubileus, who will destroy and recreate the universe under Balder's influence. This would suck, so Jeanne - released from Balder's power - saves Bayonetta, and they kick Jubileus's ass, and then Bayonetta makes a music video.
FFS, it's so easy to understand, people.
V
Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
ShockingAlberto said:
What is Scarborough Fair? I heard it's what's written on each gun. Do you mean you just had the handguns equiped through the entire game?
Ninja Moomin
Banned
I'm not getting this game at all.... graphics are so so.... gameplay is fun but nothing to write home about... plot makes no sense.
Does it get better once you've got some of the items from later on in the game?
The most ridiculous Edge 10 ever.
Does it get better once you've got some of the items from later on in the game?
The most ridiculous Edge 10 ever.
Net_Wrecker
Member
NinjaFusion said:
I knew this game was for me the second I got control. The combat just FEELS so good, the art style is beautiful, and later levels have me in awe at what they managed to do without completely breaking the game. Maybe it's a slow burn for people like you, or maybe you'll just never "get it," but man this is one of the best experiences I've had with a game since Super Mario Galaxy, and MGS3 before that. It gets better with every chapter IMO, and there are tons of ways to fight. I don't know how even the slightest fan of action games isn't having fun with this game.
danmaku said:
He's her dad, and his peacock rocks. Balder was the Lumen Sage who seduced Bayonetta's mother. One of the bosses refers to this being Paradiso's first attempt to unite the Eyes and resurrect Jubileus, which failed because Bayonetta wasn't up to snuff. Although the events of Bayonetta's birth are described as a union of star-crossed lovers, it's later revealed that Balder was deliberately laying the groundwork for the resurrection of Jubileus by purposefully breaking the balance of power between light and dark. He was an instrument of Paradiso who contrived to have a child with a witch. And though the plan failed because Bayonetta was defeated by Jeanne, the resulting war between the clans allowed Balder to mop up what remained of the barely victorious Umbra after they had wiped out the rest of the Lumen, thus giving Paradiso a foothold of unprecedented strength in Vigrid.
So Balder is the last Lumen Sage, Jeanne is the last non-comatose Umbra Witch who he keeps alive as a servant under some kind of spell, and Bayonetta is sleeping in her coffin ready to be awoken when Luka's father tracks her down at Balder's behest 500 years later.
So Balder is the last Lumen Sage, Jeanne is the last non-comatose Umbra Witch who he keeps alive as a servant under some kind of spell, and Bayonetta is sleeping in her coffin ready to be awoken when Luka's father tracks her down at Balder's behest 500 years later.
Aske said:
Nice summary. What I never understood is why do bad guys go through with these incredibly elaborate plans only to
awaken a weak-ass god who gets his ass kicked? :lol
danmaku said:
He got together with a witch so that he then can wipe out all the other witches except for the outcast Bayonetta (and Jeanne i guess) and then control her, in order to get control over both eyes, the sages' and the witches', and unite them to awaken the creator. Or something.
Dahbomb said:
It seems like it would be hard to do enough damage without using another weapon. Do you have the sword? You can "hold" punch after a sword swing to do the charge up attack, and it still only counts as one swing. I found the fire bombs from Durga to do a lot of damage as well using only a few kicks.
Augemitbutter
Member
there's no penalty, just buy them all up.