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BBC announces the top 100 American films of all time according to critics

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There's actually a few like 25th Hour, Mulholland Dr, and TDK.

and the bae, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

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3N16MA

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edit: It's weird that everyone - everyone seems to recognize that Empire Strikes Back is a better movie than Star Wars, and it never shows up on these lists. It's always just Star Wars.

Seems like some people do not take them as individual films and instead look at the trilogy as one. They just pick Star Wars to rep the entire series.
 

xbhaskarx

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Six films from the 2000s...

99. 12 Years a Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
96. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
94. 25th Hour (Spike Lee, 2002)
87. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
79. The Tree of Life (Terrence Malick, 2011)
21. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)

The only two I'd have in my top 100 would be 25th Hour and Mulholland Drive...

If I could only choose ten American films from the 2000s I'd go with:

The Assassination of Jesse James
There Will Be Blood
No Country for Old Men
The Fountain
Zodiac
The Royal Tenenbaums
Master and Commander
The Social Network
American Psycho
Memento
 

kess

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Sunrise has been showing up these critics' lists recently. Meshes of the Afternoon is a short film, too. Barely 13 minutes.
 
edit: It's weird that everyone - everyone seems to recognize that Empire Strikes Back is a better movie than Star Wars, and it never shows up on these lists. It's always just Star Wars.
I was going to comment on the lack of Empire Strikes Back. Glad im not the only one to notice this.
 
Welp, guess all you can do is make your own list in comparison. I just made up a top 100 American films, with the main purpose is spreading the wealth. My main pet peeve with this list is how 10 directors own 41 spots. That's crazy. I mean fuckin' Marnie and Eyes Wide Shut, FOH. At MOST, I have guys like Scorsese and Allen with 3 each, and even then was pushing it.

73. The Shop Around the Corner (Lubitsch, 1940)


The Third Man is 100% British to me. Let them have that classic.


I like most of your list, and I am really not in the condition to make one of my own 'cause I have way too big gaps in my knowledge of american cinema, but I really wonder why you choose The Shop Around the Corner above Design for Living, Trouble in Paradise, To be or not to be or Heaven can wait ? I think I liked Ninotchka and Bluebeard's Eighth Wife too more than it and I find them more clearly "Lubitsch".
 

Lothar

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I was going to comment on the lack of Empire Strikes Back. Glad im not the only one to notice this.

It's in the list. It used to be in the first post. OP is bad at making threads and edited his post to remove the bottom 50. Before that, he hid the list under spoiler tags.
 

Fury451

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This is basically the most safe and conventional list of all time. I knew the top 10 (except for Sunrise) before I even read it. Doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong though.

I feel like Ant-Man would have got on there if they hadn't made the list before it was released.

Haha
 
It's in the list. It used to be in the first post. OP is bad at making threads and edited his post to remove the bottom 50. Before that, he hid the list under spoiler tags.

I edited out the bottom 50 because it was hard to look at and also I wanted the BBC to get some clicks for their article. Not sure what's wrong with spoiler tagging it though other than the site not making it work properly for some. I will admit to not previewing my post and mentioning Empire Strikes Back :)
 

aliengmr

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Welp, guess all you can do is make your own list in comparison. I just made up a top 100 American films, with the main purpose is spreading the wealth. My main pet peeve with this list is how 10 directors own 41 spots. That's crazy. I mean fuckin' Marnie and Eyes Wide Shut, FOH. At MOST, I have guys like Scorsese and Allen with 3 each, and even then was pushing it.

This list feels thousand times more relevant to me than the one in the op.
 

Kuroyume

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A bunch of boring shit: The List

Movie critics always have their heads up their asses.

It's remarkable how much disrespect the horror and action genres get.
 

Monocle

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Welp, guess all you can do is make your own list in comparison. I just made up a top 100 American films, with the main purpose is spreading the wealth. My main pet peeve with this list is how 10 directors own 41 spots. That's crazy. I mean fuckin' Marnie and Eyes Wide Shut, FOH. At MOST, I have guys like Scorsese and Allen with 3 each, and even then was pushing it.

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1. Jaws (Spielberg, 1975)
2. Casablanca (Curtiz, 1942)
3. Mulholland Dr. (Lynch, 2001)
4. Raging Bull (Scorsese, 1980)
5. The General (Keaton, 1926)
6. Sunset Blvd (Wilder, 1950)
7. Chinatown (Polanski, 1974)
8. Do the Right Thing (S. Lee, 1989)
9. Singin’ in the Rain (Kelly & Donen, 1952)
10. Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (Murnau, 1927)
11. The Conversation (Coppola, 1974)
12. All About Eve (Mankiewicz, 1950)
13. The Lady Eve (P. Sturges, 1941)
14. Days of Heaven (Malick, 1978)
15. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence (Ford, 1962)
16. Goodfellas (Scorsese, 1990)
17. Blade Runner (Scott, 1982)
18. Short Cuts (Altman, 1993)
19. His Girl Friday (Hawks, 1940)
20. Unforigiven (Eastwood, 1992)
21. Hannah and Her Sisters (Allen, 1986)
22. City Lights (Chaplin, 1931)
23. Barry Lyndon (Kubrick, 1975)
24. Strangers on a Train (Hitchcock, 1951)
25. Heat (Mann, 1995)
26. All That Jazz (Fosse, 1979)
27. The Thing (Carpenter, 1982)
28. The Sweet Smell of Success (Mackendrick, 1957)
29. Miller’s Crossing (Coens, 1990)
30. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry, 2004)
31. The Thin Red Line (Malick, 1998)
32. The Adventures of Robin Hood (Curtiz, 1938)
33. Raiders of the Lost Ark (Spielberg, 1981)
34. King Kong (Cooper & Schoedsack, 1933)
35. Halloween (Carpenter, 1978)
36. Pulp Fiction (Tarantino, 1994)
37. Modern Times (Chaplin, 1936)
38. Rio Bravo (Hawks, 1959)
39. Blue Velvet (Lynch, 1984)
40. Dawn of the Dead(Romero, 1977)
41. The Godfather (Coppola, 1972)
42. Before Sunset (Linklater, 2004)
43. Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore (Scorsese, 1974)
44. The Maltese Falcon (Huston, 1941)
45. Dead Man (Jarmusch, 1995)
46. Boogie Nights (PTA, 1997)
47. The Big Lebowski (Coens, 1998)
48. Alien (1979, Scott)
49. Pinocchio (Luske & Sharpsteen, 1940)
50. Manhattan (Allen, 1979)
51. Three Days of the Condor (Pollack, 1975)
52. The Iron Giant (Bird, 1999)
53. The Long Goodbye (Altman, 1973)
54. The Empire Strikes Back (Kershner, 1980)
55. Schlinder’s List (Spielberg, 1993)
56. My Dinner with Andre (Malle, 1981)
57. Back to the Future (Zemeckis, 1985)
58. Die Hard (McTiernan, 1988)
59. Zodiac (Fincher, 2007)
60. Toy Story 2 (Lasseter, 1999)
61. The Right Stuff (Kaufman, 1983)
62. Notorious (Hitchcock, 1946)
63. Brokeback Mountain (A. Lee, 2005)
64. The Last of the Mohicans (Mann, 1992)
65. The Apartment (Wilder, 1960)
66. The Road Warrior (Miller, 1981)
67. Winchester ’73 (A. Mann, 1950)
68. The Graduate (Nichols, 1967)
69. Aliens (Cameron, 1986)
70. The Social Network (Fincher, 2010)
71. Out of the Past (Tourneur, 1947)
72. Touch of Evil (Welles, 1958)
73. The Shop Around the Corner (Lubitsch, 1940)
74. Imitation of Life (Sirk, 1959)
75. Out of Sight (Soderbergh, 1998)
76. You Can Count on Me (Lonergan, 2000)
77. The Terminator (Cameron, 1983)
78. Paper Moon (Bogdanovich, 1973)
79. The Grand Budapest Hotel (Wes Anderson, 2014)
80. Blow Out (DePalma, 1981)
81. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia (Peckinpah, 1974)
82. 12 Angry Men (Lumet, 1957)
83. Kill Bill (Tarantino, 2004-2005)
84. Johnny Guitar (Ray, 1954)
85. Who Framed Roger Rabbit (Zemeckis, 1988)
86. Ed Wood (Burton, 1995)
87. My Own Private Idaho (Van Sant, 1991)
88. Dangerous Liaisons (Frears, 1988)
89. The Shining (Kubrick, 1980)
90. The Lion King (Allers & Minkoff, 1994)
91. Rosemary’s Baby (Polanski, 1968)
92. 12 Years a Slave (McQueen, 2013)
93. Young Frankenstein (M. Brooks, 1974)
94. Point Blank (Boorman, 1967)
95. Top Hat (Sandrich, 1935)
96. L.A. Confidential (Hanson, 1997)
97. Groundhog Day (Landis, 1993)
98. Amadeus (Forman, 1984)
99. All the President’s Men (Pakula, 1976)
100. Evil Dead 2 (Raimi, 1987)



The Third Man is 100% British to me. Let them have that classic.
Much, much better.
 

Galang

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Way too many old movies on there. Old movies get way more praise than they deserve. Nostalgia is fucking powerful shit.

Then when a modern movie is on there its Dark Knight? Christ.

I agree with this. It's like this for every form of entertainment sadly
 
I like most of your list, and I am really not in the condition to make one of my own 'cause I have way too big gaps in my knowledge of american cinema, but I really wonder why you choose The Shop Around the Corner above Design for Living, Trouble in Paradise, To be or not to be or Heaven can wait ? I think I liked Ninotchka and Bluebeard's Eighth Wife too more than it and I find them more clearly "Lubitsch".

Honestly, its the last one I saw and I thought "shit, can't get through the list without Ernst". Design for Living/Trouble in Paradise would probably a better fit, but I absolutely do enjoy it more than Ninotchka and To Be or Not to Be.
 

Madridy

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I've literally fell asleep while watching 2001. True story.


Most old movies are overrated, mostly because of nostalgia.

Imo.
 
Six films from the 2000s...

99. 12 Years a Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
96. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
94. 25th Hour (Spike Lee, 2002)
87. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
79. The Tree of Life (Terrence Malick, 2011)
21. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)

The only two I'd have in my top 100 would be 25th Hour and Mulholland Drive...

If I could only choose ten American films from the 2000s I'd go with:

The Assassination of Jesse James
There Will Be Blood
No Country for Old Men

The Fountain
Zodiac
The Royal Tenenbaums
Master and Commander
The Social Network
American Psycho
Memento

God damn 2007.
 
Welp, guess all you can do is make your own list in comparison. I just made up a top 100 American films, with the main purpose is spreading the wealth. My main pet peeve with this list is how 10 directors own 41 spots. That's crazy. I mean fuckin' Marnie and Eyes Wide Shut, FOH. At MOST, I have guys like Scorsese and Allen with 3 each, and even then was pushing it.

Props for throwing The Conversation ahead of the godfather, and showin my boy Carpenter some love.
 
Honestly, its the last one I saw and I thought "shit, can't get through the list without Ernst". Design for Living/Trouble in Paradise would probably a better fit, but I absolutely do enjoy it more than Ninotchka and To Be or Not to Be.

Fair enough, may be my memories of the film have been somewhat diminished by the bland remake with Meg Ryan...
 

kswiston

Member
There's some odd choices in there like Thelma and Louise, but the majority are hard to argue as at least being worth considering.
 
Props for throwing The Conversation ahead of the godfather, and showin my boy Carpenter some love.

The Godfather I/II are undeniable greats, but in our quest to crown them as The Great American Movie, Chinatown and The Conversation from that time period tend to get pushed down in, uh, the conversation. When I quickly typed the list up, I just knew I needed to put them ahead.
 
I think its a bold choice not to include Joe Dirt on that list. I mean, I can understand the arguments against it, but when look at the history of cinematography, you have to respect the way Joe Dirt pushed the art form further.
 
The Godfather I/II are undeniable greats, but in our quest to crown them as The Great American Movie, Chinatown and The Conversation from that time period tend to get pushed down in, uh, the conversation. When I quickly typed the list up, I just knew I needed to put them ahead.

In addition to getting short shrift, I just think Conversation, and Chinatown for that matter, are just better films. Godfada is still great of course.
 

Z..

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I'll never ever understand why Birth Of A Nation is chosen over Intolerance... I get that BoaN came firtst and set the blueprint for everything that was to come, but Intolerance is a much better film and was mande only one year after BoaN.
 
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