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[Shredderi]

Sigh. I actually liked ep2 but this was pretty messy. Too much stuff happening too quickly. I would have really wanted to see lost children animated.

 

[Zolo]

If they can do justice to the first showing of animated Berserker Guts, it will have been worth it.

 

[FlashbladeGAF]

Fuck it, I'll just get print then. Sigh.


Why couldnt the 90s anime just continue instead of ending after one season.....That's legitimately in my top 3 animes of all time.

Problem with the 90's anime, is they cut characters who would show up and help with key moments in the later chapters.

I do feel sorry for anyone coming into the series for the first time watching this new anime.

The heart of the story is really the Golden age arc. Without it you have no real connection to any of the characters. You're just watching a group of people surviving in a disgusting dark world ...and I'm not even talking about the actual disgusting, dark, no one would want to live there, let alone visit, world the characters are stuck in.

The look of the world and CG is the greatest crime against Berserk.
This series inspired Souls/Bloodbourne series.
But you would think Berserk is the cheap knockoff by looking at it now.

 

[HStallion]

If they can do justice to the first showing of animated Berserker Guts, it will have been worth it.

We won't be going anywhere near that far with this series.

 

[Kilrogg]

As someone who's seen the 90s anime and the movies, but only read the first few chapters of the manga: this episode was a mess:

- They managed to mess up the direction; even inside the manse, I sometimes had no idea where Guts and the monster were relative to the setting.
- Things generally happened way too fast. "Guts, I want you to fuck m- oops never mind I'm good." Huh?
- A problem that no doubt arises in part because they absolutely want to include flashbacks that are 1) useless for people who've seen the previous anime, 2) confusing, and thus useless as well, for people who haven't
- No nipples is weird
- CG is still bad

:/

 

[Arkeband]

It cuts out some arcs, but yeah. It essentially is.

Looks like Casca also might be dark again (maybe complaints were heard?).

It was pretty obvious that every scene she was featured in had weird lighting that would naturally illuminate dark skin. People just went overboard.

Like taking still frames of the heavily stylized intro and comparing it to the source material. Of course it looks different.

This episode was kind of a mess, but still better than 1 and 2. I think if they're planning on spending at least two episodes with the Conviction arc then it should be better paced.

 

[HStallion]

It was pretty obvious that every scene she was featured in had weird lighting that would naturally illuminate dark skin. People just went overboard.

Like taking still frames of the heavily stylized intro and comparing it to the source material. Of course it looks different.

This episode was kind of a mess, but still better than 1 and 2. I think if they're planning on spending at least two episodes with the Conviction arc then it should be better paced.

Well I mean people have posted tons of shots comparing the manga to the new anime and its a pretty stark difference.

 

[Matsukaze]

Well I mean people have posted tons of shots comparing the manga to the new anime and its a pretty stark difference.

That, and that one shot of Casca's face next to Guts's arm and her being paler than him. That's one amateurish lighting effect.

 

[WickedLaharl]

Was it in this episode or not?

 

[silva1991]

Was it in this episode or not?

Yes

-__-

 

[HStallion]

Was it in this episode or not?

Have you seen my Avatar?

 

[Onemic]

Have you seen my Avatar?

You're a stallion alright.

 

[Kevin]

Yes

-__-

This looks like something from those old 90s CG Saturday morning cartoon. Terrible. I was so damn hyped for this and it looks like very minimal effort and care has actually been put into this project. A damn shame!

 

[Melkezadek]

Every time I come in to this thread I hope that others enjoyed the new episode as much as I did. Always disappointed.

I guess I'm just easy to please, but I'm loving the hell outta this. Yes I've read the entire manga front to back. Yes I've seen the '97 anime. I don't get the vitriol at all.

 

[HStallion]

Every time I come in to this thread I hope that others enjoyed the new episode as much as I did. Always disappointed.

I guess I'm just easy to please, but I'm loving the hell outta this. Yes I've read the entire manga front to back. Yes I've seen the '97 anime. I don't get the vitriol at all.

I mean you don't get the vitriol for a show that has a ton of art that looks like its from a PS2 game, has animation that is on average poor at best, and seems to being a big disservice to the story and characters by chopping everything up and sticking it together in some weird Frankenstein storyline?

Not saying don't enjoy it but the flaws are fairly glaring and saying otherwise is a bit disingenuous.

 

[Siegcram]

Every time I come in to this thread I hope that others enjoyed the new episode as much as I did. Always disappointed.

I guess I'm just easy to please, but I'm loving the hell outta this. Yes I've read the entire manga front to back. Yes I've seen the '97 anime. I don't get the vitriol at all.

You have eyes, right?

Really that hard to get folks may have a problem with their gorgeous manga getting adopted as a PS2 cutscene.

Look at the fucking horse ffs.

Edit: Lol, HStallion snatching my post.

 

[How About No]

Yes

-__-

Yep, those are PS2 teeth if I've ever seen 'em

How can they do this to Berserk's true main character

 

[silva1991]

This looks like something from those old 90s CG Saturday morning cartoon. Terrible. I was so damn hyped for this and it looks like very minimal effort and care has actually been put into this project. A damn shame!

The animations and frames when it tried to catch Farnese were even worse than the horse face

it looked like a very slowed down video/gif and you literally can count how many frames were there.

 

[Melkezadek]

I don't think it looks bad at all. The 3d might be off putting to some but I'm liking the art a lot.

As far as the Frankenstein story goes, who cares? I've read the manga already and the changes they have done aren't damaging to the integrity of the story. I don't have any problems with it.

Sorry others are having such a hard time getting through it. I'm glad we're getting this and enjoying what I've seen.

Edit: Yea I'm done here. There is no need to be rude and condescending.

 

[Galang]

Already at the horse scene? Guess I'll give it another chance.. curious.

 

[HStallion]

I don't think it looks bad at all. The 3d might be off putting to some but I'm liking the art a lot.

As far as the Frankenstein story goes, who cares? I've read the manga already and the changes they have done aren't damaging to the integrity of the story. I don't have any problems with it.

Sorry others are having such a hard time getting through it. I'm glad we're getting this and enjoying what I've seen.

I mean you said you've read the manga and don't get how the anime storyline isn't doing a disservice to the original material? Again like it all you want but people aren't pulling complaints about the show out of thin air. You don't mind the CG but compare it to some recent CGI anime shows and movies that have come out in the last few years and see the huge difference in quality.

 

[Siegcram]

As far as the Frankenstein story goes, who cares? I've read the manga already and the changes they have done aren't damaging to the integrity of the story. I don't have any problems with it.

That's just objectively false.

Good on you for enjoying it, but that's no reason to make shit up.

 

[Melkezadek]

I mean you said you've read the manga and don't get how the anime storyline isn't doing a disservice to the original material? Again like it all you want but people aren't pulling complaints about the show out of thin air. Again you don't mind the CG but compare it to some recent CGI anime shows and movies that have come out in the last few years and see the huge difference in quality.

I don't care if it's close to the source material or not. That doesn't stop me from enjoying other media adaptations. And the rest of that is completely subjective. It doesn't look terrible to me and I'm sorry people can't enjoy it for what it is.

 

[Kevin]

I've only seen the first two episodes so far. I enjoy it with lowered expectations but it almost feels like a fan creation rather then something professional. That is my major gripe as I felt the 1997 anime series was pretty much perfect for what I wanted. This just feels too messy and not as well constructed.

 

[JadedWriter]

Just got up to ep 2. Wasn't Farnese buck ass naked when she was whipping herself in the manga?

 

[Melkezadek]

That's just objectively false.

Good on you for enjoying it, but that's no reason to make shit up.

Making shit up? You need to calm down. I haven't made anything up.

 

[HStallion]

I don't care if it's close to the source material or not. That doesn't stop me from enjoying other media adaptations. And the rest of that is completely subjective. It doesn't look terrible to me and I'm sorry people can't enjoy it for what it is.

Just saying its an odd notion to love something but not care about adaptations being faithful to the original source material.

 

[Matsukaze]

Just got up to ep 2. Wasn't Farnese buck ass naked when she was whipping herself in the manga?

No, she had pants on.

 

[WickedLaharl]

Yes

-__-

Mmm those sweet dreamcast graphics!

Every time I come in to this thread I hope that others enjoyed the new episode as much as I did. Always disappointed.

I guess I'm just easy to please, but I'm loving the hell outta this. Yes I've read the entire manga front to back. Yes I've seen the '97 anime. I don't get the vitriol at all.

You have no standards and that's OK. I have enjoyed a fair amount of trashime in the past. Feel free to not visit the thread anymore if it disappoints you so much.

 

[Siegcram]

Making shit up? You need to calm down. I haven't made anything up.

The narrative of these three episodes is a jumbled mess taken on its own.

Saying its story integrity holds up to that of the manga when huge chunks are missing, re-arranged is completely new is just lying to people.

I'm perfectly calm, btw. About to go to sleep actually.

 

[Breads]

Just got up to ep 2. Wasn't Farnese buck ass naked when she was whipping herself in the manga?

Wow.

So many people are interested in the levels of nakedness and nipples of this one.

 

[DVCY201]

Just saying its an odd notion to love something but not care about adaptations being faithful to the original source material.

Because the original exists and isn't retroactively tarnished? I don't watch Captain America or Iron Man and complain about the changing villains that differ from their comic counterparts. I've sat through soon to be 3 reboots of Spiderman each telling the same story, differently. Edge of Tomorrow is a re skinned All You Need Is Kill, it's still a great movie

 

[Melkezadek]

Just saying its an odd notion to love something but not care about adaptations being faithful to the original source material.

I don't agree at all. I enjoy the X-Men movies despite them deviating form the source material. (by an even larger margin comparing to what we've seen so far in this anime)

So yea, you can love something and still enjoy the adaptations. Flaws and all.

The narrative of these three episodes is a jumbled mess taken on its own.

Saying its story integrity holds up to that of the manga when huge chunks are missing, re-arranged is completely new is just lying to people.

I'm perfectly calm, btw. About to go to sleep actually.

You don't seem calm at all. You decided to respond to my opinion with snark and rudeness. No need for that at all.

Yes there are parts changed around a bit but so far, but nothing I've seen so far is going to change the major plot points of the story. If you disagree, then please feel free to express that.

 

[HStallion]

Wow.

So many people are interested in the levels of nakedness and nipples of this one.

Well lets not delude ourselves and say there aren't a lot of Berserk fans who like the series for the graphic nature of the content by itself and don't really care about the nuances or characters or what not.

 

[JadedWriter]

Wow.

So many people are interested in the levels of nakedness and nipples of this one.

Farnese is my Berserk waifu. I have standards, but yes I can be quite lewd. I'll also have you know I also like the story of Berserk.

 

[HStallion]

Because the original exists and isn't retroactively tarnished? I don't watch Captain America or Iron Man and complain about the changing villains that differ from their comic counterparts. I've sat through soon to be 3 reboots of Spiderman each telling the same story, differently

I never said the original was tarnished by a lesser work. I stated this adaptation has a ton of fairly obvious issues.

I don't agree at all. I enjoy the X-Men movies despite them deviating form the source material. (by an even larger margin comparing to what we've seen so far in this anime)

So yea, you can love something and still enjoy the adaptations. Flaws and all.

I'm just saying you make it sound like this is a perfectible acceptable Berserk adaption and I'm saying to most people its a far cry from the manga on all levels. You enjoy and that's fine but let's not act like there are some big issues with the show. You can still enjoy something and criticize it.

Also I do prefer adaptations stay faithful to the original source material because if it changes so much why bother doing an adaptation at all if you lose what made the source material so good?

 

[DVCY201]

Or let's get more anime, there are three universes for Ghost in the Shell, with the OG, Stand Alone Complex, and Arise. They're all great, and they all differ in thematic undertones, and are all adapted from an original manga source.

His point is you can enjoy adaptations that take liberties, and I'd agree. Sometimes a creator can elevate the piece. Whether that's happening for Berserk, that's debateable. But he is still allowed to enjoy it flaws and all

 

[Breads]

Well lets not delude ourselves and say there aren't a lot of Berserk fans who like the series for the graphic nature of the content by itself and don't really care about the nuances or characters or what not.

I think it's time I admit this to myself, considering the shit show the two Berserk Musou threads were. Seems like they were clued in on something I've been in denial of.

Farnese is my Berserk waifu. I have standards, but yes I can be quite lewd. I'll also have you know I also like the story of Berserk.

Serpico is mine and I have to admit even though it was pretty damn short his scene at the end with Gutts was pretty ok. Wish it wasn't covered in credits though.

 

[Melkezadek]

I never said the original was tarnished by a lesser work. I stated this adaptation has a ton of fairly obvious issues.



I'm just saying you make it sound like this is a perfectible acceptable Berserk adaption and I'm saying to most people its a far cry from the manga on all levels. You enjoy and that's fine but let's not act like there are some big issues with the show. You can still enjoy something and criticize it.

Also I do prefer adaptations stay faithful to the original source material because if it changes so much why bother doing an adaptation at all if you lose what made the source material so good?

You mean big problems with the show like how in the '97 anime Guts never encountering Skull Knight? I haven't seen anything yet so far that creates a bigger hole than that? Crazy that I'm still able to enjoy the anime.

 

[True Savior]

Every time I come in to this thread I hope that others enjoyed the new episode as much as I did. Always disappointed.

I guess I'm just easy to please, but I'm loving the hell outta this. Yes I've read the entire manga front to back. Yes I've seen the '97 anime. I don't get the vitriol at all.

The vitriol comes from what has been an horrific adaptation of Berserk. I'm not even talking about butchering the artwork and the garbage animation we have to endure. I understand the budget for this is minuscule. But I expected good direction. Good sound design. Good soundtrack. Good pace. Editing that made sense. And a well adapted story. The first episode was already a complete disservice to the events and the characters and this next two are again big offenders.

A complete rush over Farnese events that make her rethink everything. This episodes are about how being next to Guts shatters the world she thought she lived and the beliefs she had. The anime just goes through things. There's no sense of anything. Before she is possessed and tries to mount the DS, she is in completely awe with Guts as he fights all night against demons and ends up resting where she looks at him through the horizon. An imagery that gets stuck in her head. What happens next should go in line with that. If you can't pace the events, nothing holds any weight. Neither her fanaticism, nor her disbelief. All of this was also a bit sidelined by a new storyline which tries to correct the fuckup of the first episode by explicitly explaining why is Guts doing the things he is doing. The final 4 minutes are like 40 pages utterly condensed. Quality wise , this is as low as low gets. It's almost insulting.

 

[Melkezadek]

Mmm those sweet dreamcast graphics!



You have no standards and that's OK. I have enjoyed a fair amount of trashime in the past. Feel free to not visit the thread anymore if it disappoints you so much.

What is the point in being this rude and dismissive? Like what the fuck? Can the same be said for you if the show is so trash? Why watch it and complain?

 

[HStallion]

You mean big problems with the show like how in the '97 anime Guts never encountering Skull Knight? I haven't seen anything yet so far that creates a bigger hole than that? Crazy that I'm still able to enjoy the anime.

Uhh ok? They also had to skimp on animation and rely on panning shots of still images with music and sound effects to recreate what was going on in that scene. Did you miss the part about where I said you can like something but criticize it? I would criticize the original anime for cutting out Wyald more than the Skull Knight who has barely any appearances in the Golden Age.

I think it's time I admit this to myself, considering the shit show the two Berserk Musou threads were. Seems like they were clued in on something I've been in denial of.

Just remember this whenever you hear anyone obnoxiously state how they hate the side characters that Guts has surrounded himself with and hope they all die horribly so he can get back to monster killing.

 

[Melkezadek]

Uhh ok? They also had to skimp on animation and rely on panning shots of still images with music and sound effects to recreate what was going on in that scene. Did you miss the part about where I said you can like something but criticize it? I would criticize the original anime for cutting out Wyald more than the Skull Knight who has barely any appearances in the Golden Age.

Yes and you can still be critical of something and still enjoy it. People are acting like the changes are sacrilege and because of that, unwatchable.

I wasn't attacking anyone for disliking it. I stated my disappointment that others weren't enjoying it as much as I am.

 

[JadedWriter]

I think it's time I admit this to myself, considering the shit show the two Berserk Musou threads were. Seems like they were clued in on something I've been in denial of.



Serpico is mine and I have to admit even though it was pretty damn short his scene at the end with Gutts was pretty ok. Wish it wasn't covered in credits though.

Serpico is a great character. I don't remember this dog apostle dude being in the manga.

 

[HStallion]

Yes and you can still be critical of something and still enjoy it. People are acting like the changes are sacrilege and because of that, unwatchable.

I mean the shitty art, the really poor CG, the ugly character models, the really lame sound effects and so on do ruin it for a lot of people. You keep seem to forget I said its cool if you like it. This show however for many Berserk fans is spitting on a work of fiction they have loved and in many cases loved for a long long time.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

I don't care if it's close to the source material or not. That doesn't stop me from enjoying other media adaptations. And the rest of that is completely subjective. It doesn't look terrible to me and I'm sorry people can't enjoy it for what it is.

How dare you enjoy this show. I mean it's ok if you do but it also isn't.

Spoiler

/s

 

[Melkezadek]

I mean the shitty art, the really poor CG, the ugly character models, the really lame sound effects and so on do ruin it for a lot of people. You keep seem to forget I said its cool if you like it. This show however for many Berserk fans is spitting on a work of fiction they have loved and in many cases loved for a long long time.

All subjective and I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm a Berserk fan and I'm enjoying. I'm allowed to express that without being attacked.

 

[HStallion]

All subjective and I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm a Berserk fan and I'm enjoying. I'm allowed to express that without being attacked.

Who is attacking you? Sounds like you're getting defensive because I'm trying to explain to you the seemingly hard to get idea that a lot of people are disappointed by what they see as a poor adaptation. Yes you like it but too many the rather glaring issues are too much to take and I can't blame them. If it was just one thing like poor art or lack luster animation but everything else was solid I don't think people would care as much but right now there are severe issues for many on just about every level.

 

[WickedLaharl]

When you say stuff like " I don't get the vitriol at all" and then have the reasons people don't like it explained to you only to follow up with "i don't care about that" and top it off with a "sorry you don't like it!" idk what kind of reaction you expect.

However you are right my post was a bit rude and i apologize for that. It is certainly okay to like the show.

 

[Melkezadek]

That's just objectively false.

Good on you for enjoying it, but that's no reason to make shit up.

Mmm those sweet dreamcast graphics!



You have no standards and that's OK. I have enjoyed a fair amount of trashime in the past. Feel free to not visit the thread anymore if it disappoints you so much.

Who is attacking you? Sounds like you're getting defensive because I'm trying to explain to you the seemingly hard to get idea that a lot of people are disappointed by what they see as a poor adaptation. Yes you like it but too many the rather glaring issues are too much to take and I can't blame them. If it was just one thing like poor art or lack luster animation but everything else was solid I don't think people would care as much but right now there are severe issues for many on just about every level.

Yea no. I'm not "getting defensive".

Yea, discussion I guess is over. Hope everyone has fun watching a show that despise.