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Berserk 2016 Anime |OT| Prelude to the CGI Boat

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Grudy

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Guys is there a dubbed version of the 90s anime?

There's like 6 episodes of Berserk on Crunchyroll but not sure which one these relate to

I don't know about Crunchyroll, but I believe the DVDs had dual audio so yes, a dubbed version is available somewhere.
 

kmax

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Kilrogg

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Guys is there a dubbed version of the 90s anime?

There's like 6 episodes of Berserk on Crunchyroll but not sure which one these relate to

Yes, it has a dub, but those 6 episodes on Crunchyroll have nothing to do with it.

They're the 6 episodes of the new 2016 anime that have been released so far. Those obviously aren't dubbed yet... And they're shit compared to the 90s anime, and shit overall.

You can probably get the original 26-episode 97 anime in DVD format fairly easily. Heck, I think some of it is even watchable on YouTube in English.
 

Darg

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Speaking of the 90's dub, the outtakes from the cast are really funny, and I would definitely recommend giving it a watch for those that haven't.

Hah yeah forgot about those, one of the best (the full amount not covered in that video) along with Ghost Stories.

Wish they would do an Updated/Bigger Budget version of the 90's style, would be fantastic.
 
Wish they would do an Updated/Bigger Budget version of the 90's style, would be fantastic.
They did, in three feature length films. They even got the original voice cast together, which the japanese version couldn't do.

The reception was mixed partly due to some dodgy CGI experiments, but I personally think it's the best introduction someone can have to the series without telling them to commit to 24 episodes or finding $200 worth of manga.
 
They did, in three feature length films. They even got the original voice cast together, which the japanese version couldn't do.

The reception was mixed partly due to some dodgy CGI experiments, but I personally think it's the best introduction someone can have to the series without telling them to commit to 24 episodes or finding $200 worth of manga.
I'm pretty sure when he said 90s style he meant you know.....not CGI....
 

Mr Git

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Black Swordsman arc is at its best when it takes a more of a road trip, so it's a shame they skipped both the elves and trolls.

I'm actually pretty happy about it. Cause then I won't see the best stuff butchered. Hopefully we'll get IG, Madhouse or Bones pick up another arc and it'll actually be good. Then again this is Berserk. We'll wait 10 years for this studio to re-do The Golden Age.
 

Galang

Banned
The movies aren't horrible. Aside from the jarring 3D transitions and a few omitted plot points it was alright. For people who aren't anime enthusiasts it's the best entry into the series as I don't really expect newcomers to commit to 24 episodes. The 2016 series is a huge step down even from the movies.. Huge
 
Probably a very unfair comparison in terms of context, but

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Some people have a very selective about how good the movies looked when they were on point.
 
^Some of the worst CG I've seen for anything. And the way they rush through the storyline in such a confusing manner, unless you've read the manga, the story will make zero sense. Bad sound mixing and bad, out of place music from the main composer. A series of issues, really. Definitely the worst adaptation of Berserk yet.

Probably a very unfair comparison in terms of context, but

Movie

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2016 series

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Some people have a very selective about how good the movies looked when they were on point.

What's weird to me is that the concept stage (first trailer) for this new anime was actually...decent. Especially the concept artwork. I mean, not great but not this level of "oh my goodness this is just awful". The first trailer had completely different drawings, CG quality and composition compared to the final product. WTF happened? I mean, budget obviously but why go to the effort of redoing the same sequence with Guts swinging his sword in a pan close up to his face again except badly the second time around? And those cel shaded moments are pretty much gone now aren't they (like the one with Isidro in the first episode)? Or have I missed them? Art direction is all over the place.
 

Kilrogg

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Probably a very unfair comparison in terms of context, but

Movie

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2016 series

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Some people have a very selective about how good the movies looked when they were on point.

Yeah, in many parts the Eclipse actually looks amazing in the 2011 movie. Some beautiful shots like when Skull Kings arrives and attacks Void. Someone posted the gif earlier.

The movies also have a lot more traditionally animated parts, all of which are really well animated - that movie budget -, and none of that weird mix of 2D and 3D we've seen in the last couple episodes of the new series.
 

Ushay

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The movies looked magnitudes better than the anime, I still can't comprehend why this anime received such dire funding and talent allocated to it. It's a fucking travesty.
 

SGRX

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Watched a few episodes of this, and I don't think I can keep going.

It's difficult to understand how source material this good gets handed off to a production company this bad.
 

New002

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Watched a few episodes of this, and I don't think I can keep going.

It's difficult to understand how source material this good gets handed off to a production company this bad.

Yeah I've been trying to stay strong...but I think I'm out at this point. It hurts to watch :(

Maybe I'll revisit when this season or whatever wraps.
 
The best way to watch this is to just not take it too seriously. I'll be able to close it out, but it's definitely just a shit adaptation of a great manga....clang clang clang clang clang clang...
 

Amirnol

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I am reading the manga for the first time and loving it. Just finished book 10. I went to Amazon to buy books 11-15 and only one is in stock, the rest have been out of stock for some time. Can't find them around town either. Any other reliable places to purchase these online?
 
I didn't read the manga. But I find this new anime compelling. 4 episodes in was about where I got over the "CG" abrasiveness and just learned to accept it / background-process it. Perhaps it's the strong nature of the story and subject matter that draws me? But I enjoy watching it every week.

I also think the music and sound design is really good.
 

Krammy

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As a huge Berserk fan, I never saw the movies because the CGI turned me off. Hearing about how bad the new anime was, I decided to look into a few clips.

The horse scene is literally the worst piece of studio produced animation I think I've ever seen. It looks like a bunch of key frames strung together as the camera amateurishly pans around.

I keep thinking this can't be real, surely it's better than this, and while there does seem to be better examples of animation, this whole thing still looks terrible. The use of 3D models, which has already proven to age poorly, was a huge misstep. If it looks this bad right now, who's going to want to watch this 10 or 20 years down the line? Berserk deserves so much better than this.
 

Bebpo

Banned
Still enjoying this to the point where I can't put it down if I have a couple of episodes to catch up on. Just wish the show wasn't 12 eps, would've liked at least 24, if not 36 to get more of the manga animated. Feels like they're not going to get much past this arc in 12eps.

Yes, it's ugly and badly directed, and it plays up the perverted stuff way too much while cutting out quality bits, but it's a testament to how great the source material is that even a D+ adaptation is more engaging and fun to watch than 90% of other tv shows. Also the Hirasawa music is awesome.

One thing that's interesting going through Berserk again in this new format is how much it feels like an HBO show with all the sex and violence mixed in with the character and story stuff. Berserk is one of the few manga/anime that'd actually work as an American TV show on a adult channel.
 

Lynx_7

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The movies aren't horrible. Aside from the jarring 3D transitions and a few omitted plot points it was alright. For people who aren't anime enthusiasts it's the best entry into the series as I don't really expect newcomers to commit to 24 episodes. The 2016 series is a huge step down even from the movies.. Huge

I honestly wouldn't ever recommend the movie trilogy to a newcomer. They simply don't work as standalone products because they cut too much context and characters, which makes them downright inadequate for people who want to get into the story properly. Even the really big events were hit or miss, like the battle of Doldrey is barely coherent in the movie adaptation. Even worse is the fact that all of the political intrigue involving Griffith is just gone. No Queen of Midland, no poisoning or fire, nothing. There's not a single scene left.

Because there's so much stuff missing, and because what is there is so rushed, even the biggest moments lacks any sort of punch. Gutts slaying 100 men might as well have been just another regular quarrel by how blandly directed and impactless it was. Even the things they did get right, such as the Eclipse itself, end up feeling hollow since everything surrounding it doesn't complement it as well as it should. Judeau, Pippin and the others non Caska, Gutts and Griffith band of the hawk members might as well have been random grunts in the movies by how much they actually contributed, so their deaths don't have nearly the same impact.

The movies are alright as pure fanservice for people who are already familiar with the story, but the manga and the 90's adaptation are still the only proper way to introduce newcomers to Berserk. The trilogy might be better than the new anime but that's not really a compliment.
 
I just watched episode 6... what the hell... I didn't think the animation and sound could get any worse boy was I wrong...
Why am I even torturing myself like this...
 
I am reading the manga for the first time and loving it. Just finished book 10. I went to Amazon to buy books 11-15 and only one is in stock, the rest have been out of stock for some time. Can't find them around town either. Any other reliable places to purchase these online?

I think Berserk's subreddit has a guideline to buying the manga somewhere, you might get better help there too
 
This garbage product does not make the other one retroactively better. That shit is atrocious. Bad looking tv shows, that's almost normal. Movies that look that bad? That's quite a feat.
 

petran79

Banned
One battle I'd really like to see is Guts vs Rosine. I think this was the best manga battle in my opinion.

Will the new anime series include the Convinction Arc or have they skipped it?

Despite the bad reviews and animation, I'd watch the series just for that battle alone
 
One battle I'd really like to see is Guts vs Rosine. I think this was the best manga battle in my opinion.

Will the new anime series include the Convinction Arc or have they skipped it?

Despite the bad reviews and animation, I'd watch the series just for that battle alone
I think it's doing Conviction arc now. I thought Rosine was part of the Lost Children arc?
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
One battle I'd really like to see is Guts vs Rosine. I think this was the best manga battle in my opinion.

Will the new anime series include the Convinction Arc or have they skipped it?

Despite the bad reviews and animation, I'd watch the series just for that battle alone

The already skipped her arc as well as the Slug Count
 

SilentRob

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This garbage product does not make the other one retroactively better. That shit is atrocious. Bad looking tv shows, that's almost normal. Movies that look that bad? That's quite a feat.

I only saw clips from the third movie but what I saw from it looked pretty fucking cool to be honest :eek:
 
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