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Berserk |OT| - Big men, bigger swords, OFF THE BOAT - Berserk #344 24/6/2016
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The real Berserk starts now
bone_and_sinew
breaking down barriers in gratuitous nudity
I felt a little trolled that we're still in Falconia. What's even the point of Silat going after Griffith? At least with the Empire around he could redeem his clan.
True Savior
Member
He's the nicest.
Anyone with good taste will agree with you
The abrupt ending of the series has the positive effect of making everyone wanting to read the manga.
Berserk is a waiting game. Let's just wait a little longer. He will get off the boat...eventually.
Werewolf Jones
Member
No point adding a character when his plot point won't get to be seen.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
My thoughts on the manga so far (just read up to when Caska is reintroduced):
Much, much darker than the anime. Almost too dark. (I could do without the rape, and the demon fetus kid thing, and especially demon dog and horse rape, seriously, wtf)
The art is indeed very good.
So far, I didn't like Lost Children or what came after as much as The Golden Age, because it's pretty much Guts being a huge jerk to everyone and killing things with a giant sword over and over. It lacks the same substance and character development. I can't say I'm a huge fan of Puck, either. But at the same time, I can't deny that huge swords and killing demons is cool.
I am liking where it's going since Guts' return to Godot. My boy Rickert grew up. And it was really nice to see Guts act human again. I have a positive feeling about the story from here on. Too bad about Charlotte though (Griffith, is there anyone you didn't royally screw up?)
Skull Knight is still my favorite character.
The demon designs, and the God Hand, are all seriously disturbing and creepy, so, working as intended, I suppose.
My major criticism is that the manga seems overly dark and violent for the sake of being dark and violent. My major praise is that the story and art are very unique and carry a huge sense of identity with them, making it quite unlike any manga I've read before.
My friends are being huge Griffith apologists and telling me he's the real hero of the story. Here's one of their responses when I said I find that hard to believe:
So, once again, I read on to see how Griffith's character changes and evolves.
Much, much darker than the anime. Almost too dark. (I could do without the rape, and the demon fetus kid thing, and especially demon dog and horse rape, seriously, wtf)
The art is indeed very good.
So far, I didn't like Lost Children or what came after as much as The Golden Age, because it's pretty much Guts being a huge jerk to everyone and killing things with a giant sword over and over. It lacks the same substance and character development. I can't say I'm a huge fan of Puck, either. But at the same time, I can't deny that huge swords and killing demons is cool.
I am liking where it's going since Guts' return to Godot. My boy Rickert grew up. And it was really nice to see Guts act human again. I have a positive feeling about the story from here on. Too bad about Charlotte though (Griffith, is there anyone you didn't royally screw up?)
Skull Knight is still my favorite character.
The demon designs, and the God Hand, are all seriously disturbing and creepy, so, working as intended, I suppose.
My major criticism is that the manga seems overly dark and violent for the sake of being dark and violent. My major praise is that the story and art are very unique and carry a huge sense of identity with them, making it quite unlike any manga I've read before.
My friends are being huge Griffith apologists and telling me he's the real hero of the story. Here's one of their responses when I said I find that hard to believe:
Friend said:
So, once again, I read on to see how Griffith's character changes and evolves.
True Savior
Member
Griffith as we knew him ceased to exist. He has been corrupted. There is only Femto.
Berserk is naturally dark. It's a universe inhabited by demons. No reason for them not to be purely evil.
Also i would say Lost Children perhaps has some of the biggest developments of Guts in the entire story. From his complete downfall to starting to adjust his morals once again. Even Roshīnu story is probably the most substantial Apostle story Miura wrote.
Berserk is naturally dark. It's a universe inhabited by demons. No reason for them not to be purely evil.
Also i would say Lost Children perhaps has some of the biggest developments of Guts in the entire story. From his complete downfall to starting to adjust his morals once again. Even Roshīnu story is probably the most substantial Apostle story Miura wrote.
I felt the same as you. After The Eclipse and Tower of Conviction arc it lost a ton of steam for me. But it picked up again and now I'm on volume 26 and am enjoying it.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Griffith is not the "real hero," but the situation has evolved past "Guts will kill Griffith out of revenge"
Berserk is a story about free will, fate, and causality. How human beings are manipulated and shaped by forces they have no real understanding of. Guts' will is to struggle against the tides of fate while Griffith made the choice to succumb to it. Guts has inspired others to struggle against their perceived roles in life while Griffith's mere presence leads to subjugation and the desire to stay with what's comfortable without questioning it.
Berserk is a story about free will, fate, and causality. How human beings are manipulated and shaped by forces they have no real understanding of. Guts' will is to struggle against the tides of fate while Griffith made the choice to succumb to it. Guts has inspired others to struggle against their perceived roles in life while Griffith's mere presence leads to subjugation and the desire to stay with what's comfortable without questioning it.
RadioHeadAche
Member
I am kind of surprised how critical people can be of Guts even after reading the golden age. Someone he trusted and cared about marked him for death and stole everything dear to him, of course he's going to be kind of a dick after that.
Well, it is dark for a reason. Guts just had his friends killed, and his lover so horribly raped she went insane. And these were the people that made him able to trust other people after his childhood.
Though it won't stay that dark for long. Guts is getting a bunch of morality pets and will have to balance his thirst for revenge with protecting them from further harm.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
It's not that I don't sympathize with him, it's just that watching him like this is significantly less entertaining than watching him develop as a person during The Golden Age.
One thing I do really like is when he kills apostles and makes them suffer, "feeling the pain of human weakness" (paraphrased). That's pretty damn cool, and gives both him and the reader some vindication after seeing the horrible things that they do, and have done to Guts in the past.
I would argue that the Lost Children Arc does show development, though.
It basically shows Guts regaining his humanity. When we first meet him during the Black Swordsman Arc, he's a completely different person from who he was when he left the Band of the Hawk and was thinking about his own life and what he wanted to do with it. The flashback explains how he became that person we saw in Volume 1; Volumes 14 - 16-ish are essentially a sort of recovery for him.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I retroactively appreciate volumes 13-16 after seeing Guts grow again.
Last thing I read:
I really like this series, but I wonder about Miura as a person sometimes.
Last thing I read:
Griffith is reincarnated through Guts and Caska's demon fetus baby. This series. LOL
I really like this series, but I wonder about Miura as a person sometimes.
I'll cry when the happens. I grown attached to every single one of them.
Except for Isidro. He can disappear from the face of this planet for all I care
RadioHeadAche
Member
I really need to stop clicking spoiler tags. Good lord.
RadioHeadAche
Member
I finally got a suitable necklace for this. These Banpresto ones are really nice because unlike the Art of War ones, they're not delicate and you can actually wear it. I also like that the strap it came with can be removed easily, which I'm guessing is because they knew people would probably want to put a necklace cord on it.
True Savior
Member
It it moves during the night ..well there's really nothing you can do.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
* "Now...something beyond human knowledge...has begun to stir." Epic! The build up to the eclipse has been incredible! The foreshadowing is fantastic!
* I loved how Casca
grabbed Gut's hand,
grabbed his cape.
*
Poor Rickert!
The Count!
giant serpent
* Glad we got some interesting backstrory on who I'm assuming is
Skull Knight.
5 angels be the Godhand?
putting his hand over Gut's neck to try and choke him
* The
torturer's death
* Guts going into rage mode was epic!
* Whoa,
the King
* I absolutely loved everything about the fight with the Bakiraka in the sewer. It was the highlight of the volume! Shame it was cut from the anime/movies.
* That image of Wyald
raping that poor innocent girl
impale all those body parts?
* I liked how traps were set up by The Band of the Hawk as a back up plan. They really thought things through.
* Wyald stopping Gut's sword
with his mouth
punching Gut's horse in the face?
*
Wyald killing his own men?
* Oh my God at the
penis tongue!
that dead body as a distraction
* Dat sword break! Dat brutality! Guts
going stab happy on Wyald
*
Wyald's death was something else!
that gory end.
demons dragging him away
* I can understand why, but it's still interesting that almost everything in this volume was cut from the anime/movies. The eclipse will only sting more now.
* Yay! We now get the sound effects translated!
* Wow at Griffith trying to
'rape' Casca.
*
Puck!
* I never noticed this before, but is that what I think it is on Slan's chest?!
* The Godhand
being behind the mask of the old lady
* Griffith's face when
he seals the deal.
* The art in this volume was simply spectacular, especially with how detailed all the demons were!
* The deep themes of fate and destiny, the symbolism, foreshadowing, emotions and scale of everything starting to climax in this volume was perfection!
The Omega Man
Member
Hehe, thank you for this. it makes me feel as I am reading it for the first time.
FutureZombie
Banned
I want to read all the manga, but Amazon has each issue for over $10. I don't feel like spending over $300 to read everything. Are there deals anywhere for the complete set (so far?)
chicagocubsfan
Member
Every Christmas sale Rightstuf usually sells a bundle of like 1-10, 11-20, 21-30, and 31-37 for like $7 a pop. That's how I bought mine.
EvilKatarn
Member
Jesus. I've still only got 30-37 in my collection. I'm waiting for fucking Christmas now.
chicagocubsfan
Member
It's like $70 for 1-10 in case you misunderstood.
EvilKatarn
Member
That's still really good compared to the 8-10 pounds I've been buying them for.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
No problem. I still like doing them, and so long as you guys keep reading them I'll keep going. At the moment I'm finding it really hard to pace myself when reading each volume. Before I could go a good week without reading the next volume - but now I'm struggling to go one day without reading a volume! I need to make this last as long as possible. I'm gonna be so depressed when I catch up to the latest chapter! : (
Yeah definitely take your time, and I'll chime in and say that I'm still enjoying reading your impressions (last batch reminded me to re-read volume 11 as I don't remember that section very well at all).
Enjoy every single moment as much as you can. It will only get tougher to pace yourself as you go since you're going to start reading stuff that's never been adapted.
True Savior
Member
This reminded me one of the many pointless changes the movies make. In the second one she grabs her cloak instead of his hands. And later on (you haven't got there yet) there's a small moment where he remembers those situations while looking at his amputated arm.
True Savior
Member
28/08
Tizoc
Member
Ooof a long way to go XO
RadioHeadAche
Member
Do we still have a long way to go before there's enough content for volume 38?
True Savior
Member
Volume 37 ended with 333. Considering the usual 9 episodes per volume , when 342 is released there should be enough content. It is expected 338 to be released in the end of the month. Believing the new monthly release schedule , 5 months .
RadioHeadAche
Member
I just finished book 17, so I still have a lot to read before I'm caught up, but I'll probably just wait for Dark Horse to publish it instead of reading online.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
BWHAHAHAHA! So did I blow your mind or what?!
It seems really obvious now that I've actually noticed it.
RadioHeadAche
Member
Haha, Puck you scamp. I'd really love to see this animated.
Just finished book 20. This arc is crazy.
Just finished book 20. This arc is crazy.
RadioHeadAche
Member
Wow, so I just finished the birth ceremony chapter and I'm curious about something.
Are there two forms of Griffith now? Femto and the one born from Casca, are they separate entities or the same? I'm thinking separate, but I'm not sure.
Just one, unless I'm forgetting something key.
Yeah they're the same.
Griffith can transforms back into Femto as seen in the Ganishka fight
The Omega Man
Member
Maybe now that the realms are merged he can transform at will, but like a God Hand he could be seen in Femto form ceremonies before that
Werewolf Jones
Member
New chapter in a few days. Get hype.
That fight was what caused the merging of the worlds, so he could do it before it.
The Omega Man
Member
The God Hand can't materialize in the world, I think he was able to do it there because there was already an overlapping of realms up there, a convergence of some sorts.