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Better Call Saul S3 |OT| Gus Who's Back - Mondays 10/9c on AMC
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smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
AMC renews everything it seems. Hannibal was on NBC where that matters. BB didn't have that great of ratings either honestly till the last season.
This is what pushes Chuck over the edge.
First the court thing, then the asking him to retire, then this?
His ego wasn't prepared.
PhantomKnight
Member
Really great season. Also am not the kind of person who notices these kinds of things but the cinematography of the series is top notch.
Well shit, figured it would end that way for Chuck.
I guess the Hector subplot is over, don't see the point for more Nacho business. Even the Gus/Mike stuff could be considered wrapped up. We could see no more of those plotlines and it wouldn't really matter, in relation to Breaking Bad. I wonder how S4 will be handled, and also just how many more seasons can they squeeze outta this show.
I guess the Hector subplot is over, don't see the point for more Nacho business. Even the Gus/Mike stuff could be considered wrapped up. We could see no more of those plotlines and it wouldn't really matter, in relation to Breaking Bad. I wonder how S4 will be handled, and also just how many more seasons can they squeeze outta this show.
Darth Pinche
Member
AMC also renewed Halt and Catch Fire, another amazing show with very low ratings. AMC seems to really appreciate quality.
J.W. Stillwater
Member
BCS is in the top three cable shows of the week when DVR numbers are factored in. Sometimes its number one. It is not going anywhere until the creative team says so.
There's no way they're going to fuck with Vince Gillian. They'll give him what he wants.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
There's plenty.
We get to see how Mike starts working directly for Gus.
We get to see how Nacho gets to be known to Saul.
We get to see what relationship Gus and Nacho form.
Yeah, you can assume a lot of this from the things we know in BB, but the fun is in the journey. Mike doesn't seem like a guy who would do the things he does in BB at this point. And Gus is clearly playing a long game that involves more that taking over a distribution route.
I think it was more his conscious than his ego.
Does Nacho show up in Breaking Bad? I don't remember.
Yeah I guess they could fill up the show with all kinds of stuff.
Dragging in the middle? I'm pretty sure the courtroom episode was episode 5 and that was arguably the best episode in the entire show.
When
Walt and Jesse kidnap Saul, in the first episode where he appears, he says something like "it wasn't me, it was Ignacio!" (Ignacio = Nacho)
Human Trashcan
Banned
Yeah, totally. Could have certainly been a season finale, it was magnificent
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Yeah... Kim is getting addicted to Oxys...
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
He's mentioned. In a way that maybe suggests that he's dead or in jail, and has had some dealings with Saul.
You could say the whole show is filled up with "all kinds of stuff." We could have just watched the finale and it would make sense (apart from wondering where Kim went).
The point is that the characters and plot are interesting. I want to see more of Mike and Nacho, even if it's not required by the concept of "how Jimmy became Saul."
Hobbestetrician
Member
Howard certainly was the younger brother Chuck wished Jimmy was, in nearly every single way.
And Chuck still chose to fuck him over in the end, too.
I hope not. While that could have been foreshadowing it also could have just been a part of Jimmy's little "mothering" routine. He feels guilty because he is why she was pushing herself so hard.
If anything, Kim will realize she was a workaholic and she'll enjoy her time off so much she'll decide to pursue something else.
Although guilt from Chuck's death + taking painkillers might lead to an addiction like you said.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Which Kim is noticing already hence why she went to Blockbuster and got 10 movies. That rate she should get a movie pass for cheaper.
I'd agree with that.
Just knowing who Chuck is, what he's done for HHM, what he's contributed and the years he's put in, I can only imagine the profound effect that thunderous "GTFOH old man" clap had on him.
Duane Cunningham
Member
I noticed this too, but I took it as an indication that it was such a minuscule trickle of electricity that it was just barely spinning the wheel, but not even enough to tick the number up after all day.
Either way a strong demonstration of his neurotic obsession.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
This and cutting Jimmy out of his life.
When did he first come down with his affliction? Right after his marriage fell apart, yes?
I think you mean conscience </Chuck>
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
That's pushing it. At the time they had no idea they would ever do a prequel. Nacho doesn't appear in Breaking Bad.
Peter Gould pretty much confirmed it:
http://uproxx.com/sepinwall/better-...like-saul-goodman-but-we-love-jimmy-mcgill/2/
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
Kind of a depressing episode.
At least Chuck wasn't the only one smokin'.
At least Chuck wasn't the only one smokin'.
Cornballer
Member
Yup. Mando noted that Gilligan and Nina Jack confirmed it, as well.
Cornballer
Member
- Sepinwall interview: Better Call Saul Finale Writer: Oh Gosh, What Have We Done?
I can't imagine anybody thinking Chuck's death was unearned or cheap. Beyond what's already been said about losing literally everything he values, Dr. Cruz straight-up tells him that this recovery is going to be a long and difficult process, that he shouldn't turn every light on and go on frequent excursions and have a big party right away--that he needs to do little things but back off and ask her for help if he starts to feel out of his depth and relapses. Instead Chuck repeatedly goes to the office and makes a show of being able to be near lights and turns on his electricity and uses tools.
After the crash she realizes that Jimmy is more important to her, and that she's been working hard as a lawyer for years to distract from the fact that she lost track of her passion for the law some time ago. Unlike the brothers McGill, Kim seems sincerely dedicated to reevaluating her life. I think she can pull it off.
Kim's reaction to her crash made me optimistic, funnily enough. I'm genuinely starting to think she will get out of Better Call Saul alive and healthy.
After the crash she realizes that Jimmy is more important to her, and that she's been working hard as a lawyer for years to distract from the fact that she lost track of her passion for the law some time ago. Unlike the brothers McGill, Kim seems sincerely dedicated to reevaluating her life. I think she can pull it off.
funkystudent
Member
Ill just assume the Netflix deal will get one more season out of it.
Not sure I want it to go on longer then that.
Last season. She works at the fancy law firm Jimmy left behind -- the lawyer who did everything 'by the book'.
Erin. She worked at Davis & Main. The actress is named Jessie Ennis.
Kadayi
Banned
Interesting. Hopefully, that means he's still technically alive in the series mythology. The presumption is given he's a new character that by the series end he's probably dead, but mayhap Nacho will escape events.
That does, of course, open up the possibility that potentially he might uncover Saul in the present day.
great cheers!
I would be happy if Season 4 was the final season, and in some ways, analogous to BB Season 5. You've just dealt with the major conflicts, now you deal with starting something new (Saul Goodman's career) and have a smaller conflict that is introduced and resolved in one arc.
Overall I was a little tepid on this finale. It all felt a bit sudden and yet anticlimactic. I'm not sure what I was expected but most everything that happened I was like "OK, yeah" rather and "ohhhhhh shit."
I think the progression and relapse of chucks illness in this episode showed that it truly has his relationship with his family, specially jimmy, at the center of it.
As soon as he said what he said to jimmy, that he didnt matter, he relapse, on overdrive. and as he was looking for that last source of electricity, poking holes in the wall, I thought that the source is inside chuck, his guilty is causing it. So no matter how may holes he poked, he would always feel it. and I think he figured that out by the end.
As soon as he said what he said to jimmy, that he didnt matter, he relapse, on overdrive. and as he was looking for that last source of electricity, poking holes in the wall, I thought that the source is inside chuck, his guilty is causing it. So no matter how may holes he poked, he would always feel it. and I think he figured that out by the end.
Yea as soon as the flashback happened Chuck's death felt inevitable. Of course that was already on the front of my mind:
I'm wondering if this finale laid the groundwork for the final seasons in a way we haven't seen before. I feel like s4 will be the falling out w/Kim and I used to think that Jimmy would be too far gone and Kim would cut ties, but now I think he might end up "Sandpiper"ing her after realizing how toxic he is to her.
The rest of the past timeline could be Jimmy realizing his fate as Chuck laid out, and the future timeline might be where he finally rejects that fate and redeems himself(whether that be through reconciliation with Kim or through other means).
Also, I think I'm in love with Nacho. He had better take a bigger role from now on.
The rest of the past timeline could be Jimmy realizing his fate as Chuck laid out, and the future timeline might be where he finally rejects that fate and redeems himself(whether that be through reconciliation with Kim or through other means).
Also, I think I'm in love with Nacho. He had better take a bigger role from now on.
Ooh I hadn't thought of this but now it seems the most likely path forward to me. Jimmy's going to sacrifice his relationship with Kim because he'll think it will push her away from him in order to prevent his destructive tendencies from dragging her down.
then that could easily open it up to seeing something involving her and Cinnabon Gene
Cornballer
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Cornballer
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- Podcast is up
Gould, Gilligan, Hutchinson (writer), and Odenkirk on this week.
EDIT: 2 hrs and 6 minutes this week. Wow.
Gould, Gilligan, Hutchinson (writer), and Odenkirk on this week.
EDIT: 2 hrs and 6 minutes this week. Wow.