CharminUltra
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Amazing episode. Season 3 delivering in spades.
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Better Call Saul S3 |OT| Gus Who's Back - Mondays 10/9c on AMC
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PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Just gonna go ahead and guess that Kim's look was not one of pleasant surprise. All you dudes out there, if you've seen that look before you'll never forget it. It usually comes before a breakup. It's a mix of disappointment and disgust, who-are-you-even and what-was-i-thinking.
I've seen that look. I think we've seen the seeds for Kim's departure ... which has me rethinking Saul's/Gene's ending in Omaha.
I've seen that look. I think we've seen the seeds for Kim's departure ... which has me rethinking Saul's/Gene's ending in Omaha.
SiteSeer
Member
i'm gonna go 180 and say she liked what she saw. she couldn't take her eyes off the tv, commented that he had a lot of energy. jimmy played it off like whatever i'm-gonna-sip-my-beer, but she was digging it. i don't know how they break up but its not because its saul.
Actually I think she was turned on.
CreepingFear
Member
She wanted Saul's little Jimmy.
She's fine with him breaking the law but will leave because he's energetic in a commercial? I don't see it.
I think it's too early to start speculating on what will drive them apart since they currently are good to each other and we don't know the future status of their relationship. But this...
...is not an "I dig it" face.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Yeah, Kim was honestly taken off-guard, but I think more due to the name change than anything. I think the "that guy has a lot of energy" comment was positive, though, as in "I'd like to see more of that from you".
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
no no no, that's not a good reaction. that's not a good reaction at all.
What in that video would make her want to leave him after all the legally and morally questionable things he has done so far?
Cornballer
Member
- Sepinwall's review
- Onion A|V Club review
- NY Times review
- NY Mag review
- Variety review
- Indiewire interview: Why Saul Goodman, According to Bob Odenkirk, Is More Than ‘Just A Name'
- THR: 'Better Call Saul' Writer Breaks Down Pivotal Introduction
- Promo for next week's episode (please spoiler tag any discussion)
- Los Pollos Hermanos Employee Training with Gus Fring: Loss Prevention
- Talked About Scene Ep. 306
- Sneak peek scene from next week's episode (please spoiler tag any discussion)
- Onion A|V Club review
- NY Times review
- NY Mag review
- Variety review
- Indiewire interview: Why Saul Goodman, According to Bob Odenkirk, Is More Than ‘Just A Name'
- THR: 'Better Call Saul' Writer Breaks Down Pivotal Introduction
- Promo for next week's episode (please spoiler tag any discussion)
- Los Pollos Hermanos Employee Training with Gus Fring: Loss Prevention
- Talked About Scene Ep. 306
- Sneak peek scene from next week's episode (please spoiler tag any discussion)
Oh man, that would be great.
Oh my god I was planning on making something like that this week, but now I'm not even going to bother. That is incredible.Took a bit longer to make than I thought, but finally scratched the itch to create it since I saw the episode last week:
Better Call Saul, Ace Attorney - Jimmy versus Chuck (YT video)
CMojicaAce
Member
This will get some use during E3.
No one said anything about her leaving him over the tape.
I honestly don't see whats so wrong with the tape that it bothers her so much. But I can read basic body language. And it can't be an embarassment issue because they're close enough that she would laugh with him at his silliness if that were the case. Like, he made a bad commercial, why would either of them give a shit.
So, I don't know why, but whatever it is, she looks straight up uncomfortable.
Probably not. Walt said he remembered them from back when he bought a bassinet for Walt Jr, which would have been years before any of the BCS timeline.
It's nothing specific to that video but contrast it to the closing statement she gave at the beginning of the episode. Saul Goodman is not that person.
I guess, though even the person your quoting says it's the seeds for Kim's departure rather than the cause of. I mean, yeah, he mentions it's the look that usually comes before the break up, but I thought he was just saying that was the look of Kim just having a massive doubt introduced in her mind.
But yeah, I still don't really see what she finds in that tape so objectionable.
How exactly does she know what Saul will turn out to be from that commercial? Unless she saw Breaking Bad, there's nothing about Jimmy being "energetic" that would lead her to believe he will one day be helping out the Cartel and other criminal organizations.
And that speech had a hint of BS to it and both Kim and Jimmy know it, while she does believe he is a good person at heart, she made him sound like a "saint", which they joke about.
I don't think that reaction was Kim making plans to get out right then and there but rather she's worried about what could happen since he managed to slip into that persona so quickly. I doubt she expects the full extent what Jimmy turns into but she knows what he's done before this and how much he enjoys pulling off scams. Despite this, she also believes that he capable of more than that. So yea, the closing statement is an exaggeration but it's based on something she believes to be true, what Jimmy could be.
edit: maybe I'm reading too much into that but reaction is definitely of dismay, so this is what I extrapolate from that
gutter_trash
Banned
I hate Hector even more after today's episode, what a dispecable man
Piston Hyundai
Member
I figured the gears were turning in her head to somehow use "Saul Goodman" as a loophole out of the year suspension.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
She's seen that since day one. I think this is her seeing what he could be.
Hm. I see it.
The thing is, if the way he preyed on the sympathy didn't phase her for the Sandpiper commercial or his masquerading heroism with the billboard incident, why would him pulling a salesman routine over some commercial airtime set off alarm bells.
It's just an odd character moment and I'm not sure why it happened like that.
It's just an odd character moment and I'm not sure why it happened like that.
Friend of Sonic
Member
This was my read of it too. Almost like the hesitation in her face was indicative of doubt that she'd even consider it? I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if she is the one to get this rolling
Robot Pants
Member
200%
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Lydia! Didn't expect to see her again.
There must be some major film nerds on the writing staff. Figured that since Season 1 with all the movie references Jimmy made. But then they heap on all the editing and filming jokes they put in whenever Jimmy talks about his commercials. I love it.
I've suspected for awhile that Hector's stroke would come into play in a big way, and not be 100% natural. Either someone would exasperate it or outright cause it. It wouldn't even be that hard to do now that Nacho knows Hector is sick. He just has to get him really worked up (which isn't hard) and keep his pills away, or replace them with sugar.
There must be some major film nerds on the writing staff. Figured that since Season 1 with all the movie references Jimmy made. But then they heap on all the editing and filming jokes they put in whenever Jimmy talks about his commercials. I love it.
I've suspected for awhile that Hector's stroke would come into play in a big way, and not be 100% natural. Either someone would exasperate it or outright cause it. It wouldn't even be that hard to do now that Nacho knows Hector is sick. He just has to get him really worked up (which isn't hard) and keep his pills away, or replace them with sugar.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Hamlin is spineles. He's a complete tool. I have no doubt that he considers himself Chuck's friend, but he's also a pushover.
newtypepilot
Member
He's not spineless. Everything he does is for the wellbeing of the firm. He only cares Chuck enough to protect the firm. We don't really know how he truly feels about Chuck as he always hide his emotions.
Wow didn't expect to see Lydia again. I read that it's only a cameo and she will not appear in future episodes this season.
I'm not sure how Chuck's arc will continue now. He calling his doctor from S1 seems like he's accepted his mental illness and is trying to look for help, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is just part of his elaborate revenge plan against Jimmy.
Star wipe is the best wipes.
Oathbreaker
Banned
Holy shit! Saul Goodman, finally!
IggyChooChoo
Member
I think this is overly harsh. Given how Chuck's meltdown on the stand was bound to get out and hurt HHM's reputation, I was fully expecting Howard to begin the process of forcing Chuck into retirement in that visit.
Wow. That ending. I wasn't expecting that at all. It's so low key but totally naturally and fit perfectly. The showrunners really know how to subvert expectations and deliver the key moments in a satisfying but unexpected way.
But at the same time, while that was handled masterfully, Gus continues to be typical Breaking Bad Zero on-the-nose shit. The laundromat? It was "neat", but so unnecessary. Pure fanservice with little effort imo.
I teared up at the Mike scene though. Something about it really hit me. Mike is a guy whose only reason to live on is to see his daughter-in-law and grand daughter happy. He's old, he has had enough of life mostly, but he wants to do all he can for them. I think that really informs his change from a slightly morally righteous man to a full out mob fixer. Because he'll do anything for them, and his own sense of justice, integrity, or honor means nothing in the end if it means they can be happy when he's gone.
But at the same time, while that was handled masterfully, Gus continues to be typical Breaking Bad Zero on-the-nose shit. The laundromat? It was "neat", but so unnecessary. Pure fanservice with little effort imo.
I teared up at the Mike scene though. Something about it really hit me. Mike is a guy whose only reason to live on is to see his daughter-in-law and grand daughter happy. He's old, he has had enough of life mostly, but he wants to do all he can for them. I think that really informs his change from a slightly morally righteous man to a full out mob fixer. Because he'll do anything for them, and his own sense of justice, integrity, or honor means nothing in the end if it means they can be happy when he's gone.
Duane Cunningham
Member
Yeah, on the podcast they always talk about how they love writing the commercial gang and how their scenes are full of subtle "inside baseball" kind of humor.
For example, in the second season when they make the infamous Davis and Main spot at the old lady's house, Jimmy wants a cheesy pan in shot and the kid with glasses tells him there's not enough room. In the final commercial Jimmy apparently gets what he wants by mounting the camera on her stair lift. On the podcast they talk about how this probably goes over most viewers heads, but anyone in show business would probably spot it and get a chuckle out of it right away.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Of course. This show is making me like Mike even more. Just makes me more pissed off how he goes in BB.
Woooooow, I did not remember that at all. Nice catch.
Yep. Even after James Randi exposed him, Peter Popoff managed to come back. More miraculous then the water, for sure.
The Horror the horror
Banned
He shouldn't have been so mean to Walt. Walt just wanted a little respect.
RecRoulette
Member
Oh nooooooooooooo