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[Vaquilla]

Of course it will.

The outrage over pricing reminds me of when people were up in arms over Pokémon Sword/Shield and Scarlet/Violet, and those went on to sell tens of millions.
The average person doesn't care and will buy it anyway.

 

[flying_sq]

Maybe I'm out of touch, but IDK man, that price seems really high for me. But I also think a steam deck is fairly priced. Probably is me, I don't really like any of Nintendo's games anymore so I'm a bit biased.

 

[LakeOf9]

Maybe I'm out of touch, but IDK man, that price seems really high for me. But I also think a steam deck is fairly priced. Probably is me, I don't really like any of Nintendo's games anymore so I'm a bit biased.

Yeah, in terms of pure hardware capability, the Switch 2 does come in ahead of Steam Deck, so if one is priced well, so is the other lol (both are priced well. Switch 2 games are priced outrageously high, however)

 

[Stuart360]

It will be a big success but i dont feel it will come close to the orig Switch lifetime numbers.

 

[Luminoth-4545]

Under 50M is my bet.

Selling a tutorial, wtf?

It will require several system sellers to do better and I haven't seen anything that wow'd me yet.

I think this is impossible because if it sells this badly then they will pull a 3DS and slash the price. Plus Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Smash Bros and Animal Crossing are so big now and will garner so much hype on social media that it is highly unlikely that Switch 2 will not reach a minimum of 100m and even this would be a failure relative to the 150m+ OG Switch..

 

[Mercador]

I think this is impossible because if it sells this badly then they will pull a 3DS and slash the price. Plus Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Smash Bros and Animal Crossing are so big now and will garner so much hype on social media that it is highly unlikely that Switch 2 will not reach a minimum of 100m and even this would be a failure relative to the 150m+ OG Switch..

Don't get me wrong, I want that every console is a commercial success, it helps all gamers around the world and our medium become more prominent. However, with those prices, tariffs and current world state, I doubt that the Switch 2 will get the success of the first one. Perhaps 50M is a bit harsh I admit but I don't expect that console to be remembered as the Switch, the Wii or the SNES.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

Short term it will sell out, but its going to struggle badly long term. Nintendo caters heavily to families and they simply will not pay for a $500 console with Mario Kart, and especially not if they have to raise the price even further. Won't be a Wii U disaster, but won't sell nearly as well as Switch 1.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

People who voted 100 million Wii level success are absolutely ignorant and don't understand the current economy and the threshold families will spend on a console. We already know the max number of hardcore Nintendo fanboys peaks at around 13 million, the rest of sales are families and more casual gamers. Families and Casuals are simply going to ignore the Switch 2 until there is a significant price drop.

 

[Days like these...]

Screenshoting the haters for posterity. I hedged my bet and went with wii levels of success because of all the fuckery going on in the world.

Edit- I voted wii if I could change it I'd go 3ds levels. It's expensive and too much uncertainty in the world.

 

[blacktout]

Screenshoting the haters for posterity. I hedged my bet and went with wii levels of success because of all the fuckery going on in the world.

Yeah, I haven't voted yet for exactly this reason. I think the pricing controversy will fizzle out, especially if Nintendo reserves the $80 price point for, like, one select game per year, but the global economic situation is so precarious that I honestly don't have any idea how things will ultimately shake out.

 

[Kataploom]

I voted Gameboy level success, but that's because even if initial sales are good, we have to see yet how Nintendo handles it long term, also we have to see if the pricing issues are gonna affect long term as well, it probably won't have the same legs as Switch 1 due to that alone... So basically I wouldn't count on initial very high sales to determine future success.

 

[Codes 208]

Its going to be a rough start, unless down the line they make the S2 considerably more accessible (a switch 2 lite for example) I can tell this wont be on par with the original. But i also dont expect gamecube/wii u levels of failure either.

I think itll do about as well as the 3ds in the long run

 

[Days like these...]

It's not the pricing so much as the economic uncertainty around the world.

 

[Muffdraul]

Maybe I'm just projecting, but I'm guessing on average most people think along the lines of "$60, $70, $80, it's not THAT much difference to my budget, I don't buy that many games."

 

[Ceadeus]

People who voted 100 million Wii level success are absolutely ignorant and don't understand the current economy and the threshold families will spend on a console. We already know the max number of hardcore Nintendo fanboys peaks at around 13 million, the rest of sales are families and more casual gamers. Families and Casuals are simply going to ignore the Switch 2 until there is a significant price drop.

There are casuals who's also richer. Where is that 13 million coming from by curiosity ?

It's an interesting perspective though, I can't wait to see the outcome.

 

[mysticboy]

I'll say about ~ 90m.
They'll have to sell the Switch 2 for full 10 years before even announcing a Switch 3, and put out 9/10 and 10/10 heavy hitter 1st party exclusives every month for that decade to catch up with og Switch sales.

 

[Hideous Snake]

It’s fucking Nintendo and an upgrade from the Switch. Of course it will be a successful console

 

[SegaSnatcher]

There are casuals who's also richer. Where is that 13 million coming from by curiosity ?

It's an interesting perspective though, I can't wait to see the outcome.

Wii U sales of course.

 

[daclynk]

A Switch/DS level success (200 million units)

 

[Deerock71]

TEAM GAMEBOY LEVEL!!!

 

[Physiognomonics]

Because of the price I can't see how it could sell better than Switch 1.

It'll sell. Not as much as the first Switch of course, but it'll definitely sell. Don't underestimate the power of a new Mario Kart, and other first-party Nintendo games down the line.

You can still play a very good Mario Kart on Switch 1 and you will be able to for years to come at a much reduced price. Before Switch 1 there was no way to play such a good Mario Kart on a tablet. Things will be a bit different with S2 I think. It's less needed that S1.

 

[Ceadeus]

Wii U sales of course.

I don't think history will repeat , WiiU failed because of obvious reasons.

Switch 2 name should echoes and reach far more people than just the die hards. The price is steep but most casual are entitled to use their credit card and don't give a damn.

That's an opinion, let's see how it goes, but I feel like your initial message will age like milk. NS2 will sell over 100M

 

[poodaddy]

I'm thinking 3DS level, but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it did better too. Those thinking it will sell terribly? Well....

 

[SegaSnatcher]

I don't think history will repeat , WiiU failed because of obvious reasons.

Switch 2 name should echoes and reach far more people than just the die hards. The price is steep but most casual are entitled to use their credit card and don't give a damn.

That's an opinion, let's see how it goes, but I feel like your initial message will age like milk. NS2 will sell over 100M

Hardcore Nintendo fans were not confused about what the Wii U was. That is why I'm specifically bringing up that demographic.

What I'm saying is you will always have at least 13 million hardcore fanboys who will buy anything Nintendo, but the rest will be families and casuals. The family and casual market is what matters to Nintendo most because they make up the bulk of sales and well a $500+ Switch 2 is not going to be a big hit with them.

With a price cut the NS2 could easily sell 100M, but definitely not happening at the current price point and especially not if they have to further increase the price.

This is the first time Nintendo ever priced a new console in the $450 - $500 range, yet so many of you are so confident it will sell 100 million units? Absolute ignorance on full display. If the OG Switch was not priced at $299.99 it wouldn't have sold nearly as well as it did.

 

[IAmRei]

Open world Mario Kart FORZA STYLE As a launch title! This thing has "It-prints-money.gif" potential.

To be honest, open world racing is ages before forza, if You ever heard choro Q psx or road trip ps2, racing lagoon psx, and CTR which copying diddy kong racer. I think they only tried other way around this time

 

[Luminoth-4545]

Its going to be a rough start, unless down the line they make the S2 considerably more accessible (a switch 2 lite for example) I can tell this wont be on par with the original. But i also dont expect gamecube/wii u levels of failure either.

I think itll do about as well as the 3ds in the long run

The console sales will be great in the short term and decent long term, it is the the software sales that will struggle at $80. You won't be getting nine games with over 20 million sales like with OG Switch and Mario Kart at 65M+.

 

[Edgelord79]

Yes. I bet against Nintendo last time. Learned my lesson.

 

[Hyet]

It's going to be a success but not a smashing success like DS or Swicth. Between the 3DS and Wii I'd say. But it's going to be hard getting there, it's going to have a slower start thatn expected due to pricing and bad press.

 

[Hudo]

too hard to say at this stage, tbh. I do think that they handled the launch and hype-building better with the first Switch.

 

[Mercador]

Screenshoting the haters for posterity. I hedged my bet and went with wii levels of success because of all the fuckery going on in the world.

No hate at all, I think it's just the current economic situation we're in. Priorities might shift quickly.

 

[SiahWester]

It will have lukewarm sales for a bit till they drop their prices. This isn't a first in this industry. Nintendo is only doing this because they can get away with trying, but I doubt theyll have the level of sales they've had with $80 games.

I do think it will be a repeat of the Wii U and for some of the same reasons. Theyve forgotten their casual fanbase and they aren't going to shell out that amount of cash for Nintendo's games. Although Nintendo will correct when this happens. It's all a test.

 

[QLQ]

"Not a success but did fine enough like N64 with 30 million units sold" OP fooling himself....30 million level failure like the Xbox Series is what that option should be. There's no scenario in any business where you loses half your market share in a span of 6-7 years that's consider a "success"..

 

[GigaBowser]

will beet switch most of all times

 

[RoadHazard]

80-100M. It's not gonna do Switch numbers. Partly because it's significantly more expensive, partly because it's not a novel concept anymore. A lot of casuals who bought a Switch might not see a good reason to upgrade, like what happened with the Wii U (but not as bad).

 

[Days like these...]

No hate at all, I think it's just the current economic situation we're in. Priorities might shift quickly.

I was referring moreso to the 15 million crowd but 30 million is crazy too unless the world goes to hell real quick which is a distinct possibility with how things are.