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BioShock 2 |OT| of Big Sisters, Delta Daddies, and Creepy Uncles
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Fucking Hell. I loved the original Bioshock for it's story and setting, not it's combat. Reading these reviews has me worried that 2K Marin have neglected the parts of the original that needed preserving in an attempt to improve the bits that didn't.
I'll buy the game tomorrow, play it, enjoy it. But if the game doesn't justify it's existence then I will probably perceive it to be a worse game than it is, simply because of my love for the original.
I'll buy the game tomorrow, play it, enjoy it. But if the game doesn't justify it's existence then I will probably perceive it to be a worse game than it is, simply because of my love for the original.
StevePharma
Member
MMaRsu said:
haha I did the same thing (Utrecht) !
KittyKittyBangBang
Member
The review scores are about what I expected, I think few games could reach the pedestal I put Bioshock 1 on, so these reviews are good news to me.
The Librarian
Banned
Eh. Now, see, everyone seems to be focusing on the comparison between BioShock 2's story and BioShock's. Now, there's nothing wrong with that, but it seems because of this the quality of BioShock 2 as a stand-alone is being ignored.Arnie said:
For the majority of reviews I've read, I haven't heard one person say the story is bad, or decent, or okay, just that it's not as good as the original's. The story isn't as good, but is it good? Seems that way.
I dont get this
is bioshock 2 and 8.5ish /10 game compared to bioshock one or compared to ( the fucking obvious one ) an fps on the current gen consoles?
Geez we get it, bioshock 1 was great
but how about reviewing the game based on its on merits not how good / bad certain aspects are compared to the first.
then again, maybe I'm the only one who thinks this is annoying
:{ grumpyoldman
is bioshock 2 and 8.5ish /10 game compared to bioshock one or compared to ( the fucking obvious one ) an fps on the current gen consoles?
Geez we get it, bioshock 1 was great
one of my alltime favorites
then again, maybe I'm the only one who thinks this is annoying
:{ grumpyoldman
Oh I fully agree, my predicted disappointment at the game won't be down to it being bad, simply worse than the original in the areas that matter to me, such as story. When the game was announced I said to myself that the only way I could fully enjoy it is if it lived up to the original, a feat that from the two reviews I've read, isn't present in Bioshock 2. Furthermore, points such as the shoehorning in of Sophia Lamb into the game's canonical fiction at the expense of Frank Fontaine has me gritting my teeth.Dax01 said:
I'll try to ignore my past experience as I play tomorrow and judge it on it's own merits.
AgentOtaku
Member
Was getting ready to watch the Gametrailers review
but before I do, are there any substantial spoilers in it? Shit they spoiled the last boss for Dark Void by showing it in their review
Thanks
but before I do, are there any substantial spoilers in it? Shit they spoiled the last boss for Dark Void by showing it in their review
Thanks
brandonh83
Banned
Oh, man. The soundtrack is amazing.
well do what I just do and just liten to the review, its what they say that is important not what they show ( imo )
then again I recall reading earlier in this thread that it was spoilerfree but take that with a grain of salt seeing how subjective something as a spoiler is ;
then again I recall reading earlier in this thread that it was spoilerfree but take that with a grain of salt seeing how subjective something as a spoiler is ;
OMG WHY DIDNT YOU SPOLER THE SCORE!?
monkspider
Member
AgentOtaku said:
Word on the street is that there are some bad spoilers in it. I am avoiding it personally.
I never understood this. So many reviews show stuff you unlock after completing the game or show the most intense stuff from the game. Last bosses etc, are they really that dumb? I can't imagine seeing a movie review and them showing clips from the ending scenes.AgentOtaku said:
Put off preordering this.. because I'm between PS3 and 360.
I have the first on 360, and hear it looks sharper on 360 again. However, my XBL ran out last month and I swore I wouldn't renew it until at least a worthwhile online exclusive came out (have MW2, UC2 on PS3).
The multi seems interesting.. might wait for more actual impressions on the PS3 version. I hate having this choice on so many games (and its supposed to make it easier)...
I have the first on 360, and hear it looks sharper on 360 again. However, my XBL ran out last month and I swore I wouldn't renew it until at least a worthwhile online exclusive came out (have MW2, UC2 on PS3).
The multi seems interesting.. might wait for more actual impressions on the PS3 version. I hate having this choice on so many games (and its supposed to make it easier)...
I fell off the hype train for this (partly due to anticipation for Lost season 6), even although Bioshock was one of my favourite games of all time. I didn't expect it to be anywhere near as good as the original. And when I heard that they had introduced multiplayer I basically said fuck off. (Although since then I grew to like what they've done with it, still I'm not going to play it, really don't care for it).
But anyway, when Bioshock 2 arrived earlier today and I opened it up I suddenly became far too pumped. And I have to say, I've played about an hour so far and I'm absolutely fucking loving it. Better than I expected, can't wait to experience the rest of the game.
But anyway, when Bioshock 2 arrived earlier today and I opened it up I suddenly became far too pumped. And I have to say, I've played about an hour so far and I'm absolutely fucking loving it. Better than I expected, can't wait to experience the rest of the game.
black_vegeta
Member
Arnie said:
Play Bioshock 1 then, to get your fix of love.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Found this in my pictures folder (forgot where i found it) so i figured id post it in anticipation for.. tomorrow?! Feels like its been a lifetime already.
AmericanNinja
Banned
Playstation: The Official Magazine gave it 5/5 stars.
monkspider
Member
Games Radar gave it a 10!
http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/b...2/a-2010020516721925010/g-2008101692342654074
"Here is the part of the review in which we normally compare a game to three of its closest clones or competitors. With a series as unique as BioShock, however, that seems kind of silly. And with a sequel like BioShock 2, we realize only one comparison really matters. So, is it better than
BioShock? We never, ever imagined wed be writing this, but yes. In some fairly significant ways, including combat diversity, enemy variety, character depth and emotional attachment to the story, BioShock 2 is superior to BioShock 1. Plus, fans biggest criticisms of the original the pipe hacking and the sagging third act have been addressed and fixed for this sequel.
But in many ways, the first BioShock can never be surpassed. Everything the world, the philosophies, the surreal oddity was new then, and unlike anything wed experienced before. BioShock 2 can only hope to match that genius. Fortunately for us, it succeeds."
Also confirmed in the review, there are four different endings!
http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/b...2/a-2010020516721925010/g-2008101692342654074
"Here is the part of the review in which we normally compare a game to three of its closest clones or competitors. With a series as unique as BioShock, however, that seems kind of silly. And with a sequel like BioShock 2, we realize only one comparison really matters. So, is it better than
BioShock? We never, ever imagined wed be writing this, but yes. In some fairly significant ways, including combat diversity, enemy variety, character depth and emotional attachment to the story, BioShock 2 is superior to BioShock 1. Plus, fans biggest criticisms of the original the pipe hacking and the sagging third act have been addressed and fixed for this sequel.
But in many ways, the first BioShock can never be surpassed. Everything the world, the philosophies, the surreal oddity was new then, and unlike anything wed experienced before. BioShock 2 can only hope to match that genius. Fortunately for us, it succeeds."
Also confirmed in the review, there are four different endings!
The Librarian
Banned
I've just been looking over some reviews and it's really interesting how different opinions are on the story/storytelling, to it being better and it not being better (though still good).
GamesRadar's review is pretty glowing. Overall they felt that BioShock 2 is better than the first game and the MP is a take-it or leave-it kind of thing. They preface their entire review saying how they thought this game was going to be bad.
TeamXbox said:
GamesRadar's review is pretty glowing. Overall they felt that BioShock 2 is better than the first game and the MP is a take-it or leave-it kind of thing. They preface their entire review saying how they thought this game was going to be bad.
GamesRadar said:
Eurogamer said:
Videogamer.com said:
KittyKittyBangBang
Member
I will never ever EVER watch another fucking Gametraliers review if its about a game I plan on playing, everytime I watch one its one big spoiler.
I like GiantBomb's video reviews better, they seem to be more wary of spoilers in their videos
I like GiantBomb's video reviews better, they seem to be more wary of spoilers in their videos
AgentOtaku
Member
KittyKittyBangBang said:
Are you fucking serious?
Alright then
*right-click, delete*
ColonelColon
Member
Is it really only around 8 hours? that's... kind of a deal breaker for me. and I love bioshock. if it's around that long, I guess I'm going to wait for a price drop. it'll be hard avoiding spoilers though...
thunker 9000
Member
One thing that is really bothering me about the reviews is that they say If you don't deal with all the little sisters in a given level, they are gone for good. Which IS NOT TRUE. they carry over to the next levels. Technically if you don't take care of any sisters until the very last area. you will have to get them all in that level.
improvise5
Member
Well this is weird. I pre-ordered the 360 collectors edition on Amazon and it shipped, but GameStop sent me an e-mail with a code for the exclusive PS3 multiplayer characters even though I never ordered it from there. I won't use it, so anyone want the code?
Update - gone
Update - gone
ColonelColon
Member
MMaRsu said:
No, I would definitely prefer that it isn't bogged down by a slow, uneventful ending like Bioshock, but I've played other single player campaigns that have held my interest for about 20 hours. Dead Space, for instance, never really lost steam imo. There were times when you would revisit environments that you traversed earlier in the game, but there was enough variety and progression, of weapons, enemies, etc... to compensate for that. I liked going through the environments once more and enjoying the visuals, and I didn't feel finished with the game until the credits. But in Bioshock's case, it felt like the story was resolved before the ending. I didn't really care much to (major spoiler)
kill Frank Fontaine
Tenenbaum's Safehouse, where you meet the Little Sisters.
edit: although Bioshock was brilliant before... you know... that thing that happened.
Pookaki said:
that sounds insane. are any of the little sisters protected by big daddies?
Phaethon0017
Member
Supremely late, but is anyone looking for another member for the Steam 4-pack deal?
thunker 9000
Member
ColonelColon said:
Yes, every little sister is accompanied by a big daddy.
thunker 9000
Member
tuco11 said:
You can beat Bio 1 in just over an hour if you run from point to point.
Hope I'm not reposting old info.
I just read this article about Bioshock 2's DRM and decided to check the Steam version to see if there was anything to worry about. Normally, under the "Game Details" heading, it would say if a game has 3rd Party DRM of any type (example). Bioshock 2's page doesn't have this, but if you look at the system requirements:
DRM Information: SecuROM offers unlimited activations on up to 5 PCs.
Other Requirements: ...Sony DADC SecuROM...
Seems pretty deceptive to hide the information down there. I was thinking of trying to get in on a four-pack, but I might wait and hope they strip out the DRM later.
I just read this article about Bioshock 2's DRM and decided to check the Steam version to see if there was anything to worry about. Normally, under the "Game Details" heading, it would say if a game has 3rd Party DRM of any type (example). Bioshock 2's page doesn't have this, but if you look at the system requirements:
DRM Information: SecuROM offers unlimited activations on up to 5 PCs.
Other Requirements: ...Sony DADC SecuROM...
Seems pretty deceptive to hide the information down there. I was thinking of trying to get in on a four-pack, but I might wait and hope they strip out the DRM later.
Always-honest
Banned
so saving them for the final level would be pretty bad-assPookaki said:
So....about that Steam preorder sitting in my account with no favicon or preload.....
Sup?
What's the latest a Steam new release has ever been pushed back? I haven't preorder a bunch of stuff from them, but when I did it all worked out pretty nicely.
Shouldn't this be playable at midnight tonight? I thought that's how it worked. :|
Sup?
What's the latest a Steam new release has ever been pushed back? I haven't preorder a bunch of stuff from them, but when I did it all worked out pretty nicely.
Shouldn't this be playable at midnight tonight? I thought that's how it worked. :|