QisTopTier
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Oh they added Eddie to the game finally I see
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BlazBlue: Continuum Shift II |OT| The Sequel Blue Me Away
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Karsticles
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Relius, Jin, and Hazama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLOMAE22xmc&feature=feedf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLOMAE22xmc&feature=feedf
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Mu:
Tsunugui - Now also usable in air
Ame no habakiri - Can be charged
Yata no kagami - Now also usable in air
lololololol
Tsunugui - Now also usable in air
Ame no habakiri - Can be charged
Yata no kagami - Now also usable in air
lololololol
sixteen-bit
Member
Is Relius really the only new character? It wouldn't be a BB revision without a new genetic clone of Noel
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Saya? she's gonna be the last boss of part 3 duh. Relius is just making it in cause he was doing shit in the story. But you couldnt use him._dementia said:
Taokaka:
6B - Now fatal counters
6C - Slightly increased startup speed
jD - Ground untechable time decreased (TL may actually be faster recovery for Tao?), now wall bounces on counter hit.
back to S tier you go tao
Master Milk
Member
The next new characters will probably, hopefully, be someone out of Jubei, Torakaka, and Kokonoe.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
kokonoe did no fighting in bbcs she will most likely be in 3. jubei and taos sister have a higher chance. Wouldnt be shocked if jubei was held off for 3 too, as he didnt do much in cs besides mentor. The game is story driven, even if most people ignore the fact the game does have one.Master Milk said:
Master Milk
Member
Ah, that's right, they love to follow the story for this . . . Well, as long as we get someone else from those three I'll be happy no matter who it is. Relius does absolutely nothing for me.
Karsticles
Member
Phantom IMO, or Nine resurrected.
Or maybe of part 4.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
they said part 3 will be the final. they kept their word about everything so farKarsticles said:
Master Milk
Member
When? I've always heard it as they wanted to finish in three, but had so much stuff they only felt halfway done. Like Kars, I'm expecting at least 4 of these.QisTopTier said:
Phantom is that shadow thing that rolls with Hazama, right? Who, or what, is Nine?
sixteen-bit
Member
Jubei's waifuMaster Milk said:
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Nine is phantom, who is jubei's wife/kokonoe's mom. Play storyMaster Milk said:
Prototype-03
Member
QisTopTier said:
on the other hand, Tsubaki's 6A FATALS TOO!!!
Also, yay on bb thread being resurrected (for now)
Master Milk
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lolnoQisTopTier said:Play story
So uh . . . Jubei's wife . . . human?
Prototype-03
Member
InsertNameHere said:
It sounds like a patch.
sixteen-bit
Member
It should be a stand alone release on Vita. No idea whether the console CS will receive this as a patch like it did with CS2.InsertNameHere said:
Who in god's name translated this? Why is "mantenbou hassha" included with no explanation when no one has ever referred to Litchi's staff release as that in the history of English BB play? It's not a direct translation of the original Japanese either (I checked) so I'm confused.
My theory with their removal of the jBCB loop (and the buff to the staff release) is they expect people to get a lot more carry off of hitting with the staff. I'm cool with this and even accept the bizarre change to chuun if that's their plan, but if they're just going to remove Litchi's corner carry entirely without giving something back then I've got to wonder what their plan for Litchi is. Also Itsuu C being positive on block seems a little unusual to me although I guess that'll at least get people to use it (A and B being quite popular already). I speculate that their objective is to make it so that she gets more carry starting with the staff than without, but we'll have to see. They haven't fucked her up yet and I'll keep playing her even if they do so bring on the changes.
I cannot fucking believe that they buffed Arakune and gave Taokaka's j.D CH wallbounce, though.
EDIT: They turned Noel into Hazama?
EDIT 2: Can someone explain to me what the meaning of the comparison to the spinning blowback on Rachel's old 5CC means? I know what that move is but I don't understand how that's "spinning blowback" or how that's applicable to Chuun (236C).
My theory with their removal of the jBCB loop (and the buff to the staff release) is they expect people to get a lot more carry off of hitting with the staff. I'm cool with this and even accept the bizarre change to chuun if that's their plan, but if they're just going to remove Litchi's corner carry entirely without giving something back then I've got to wonder what their plan for Litchi is. Also Itsuu C being positive on block seems a little unusual to me although I guess that'll at least get people to use it (A and B being quite popular already). I speculate that their objective is to make it so that she gets more carry starting with the staff than without, but we'll have to see. They haven't fucked her up yet and I'll keep playing her even if they do so bring on the changes.
I cannot fucking believe that they buffed Arakune and gave Taokaka's j.D CH wallbounce, though.
EDIT: They turned Noel into Hazama?
EDIT 2: Can someone explain to me what the meaning of the comparison to the spinning blowback on Rachel's old 5CC means? I know what that move is but I don't understand how that's "spinning blowback" or how that's applicable to Chuun (236C).
PATCH VINDICATED, FUCK ALL OTHER CHANGES, THIS IS IT FOLKS
満天棒発射 (Mantenbou hassha) is literally "staff shoot/release" but is not included in the original Japanese BBS post that I'm assuming they sourced this information from; the original is 満天棒飛ばし which is a more direct "flying staff" although no one has ever referred to it as "mantenbou tobashi" in English either, so whatever. Given the original translation I am fairly certain that the move refers to an increase in hitstun on staff2 hits; the dustloop translation contains more ambiguity (it sounds more like j.D[m] and staff2 to me) so that might be what it's referring to. I am no Japanese pro, however, so I don't have the context to make the judgement call.ApolloJoh said:
Prototype-03
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Fugu said:
If they take that away, I'm going to ask for the old 2C back!
Prototype-03
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Fugu said:Oh yes how unfortunate it would be if Valkenhyn had to anti-air with some discretion like every other character.
I want to play tonight, I'm a little sad I missed yesterday's lobby.
pfft, he also lost his natural overhead. EASY DAMAGE AND HIT CONFIRMS, WHERE DID YOU GO?? D:
I thought you and Master Milk were already playing so I asked in the chat but he (MM) told me that you were away. OH WELL MORE FUN FOR US!
I was so tired by the end of the night and was still wanting to play. I am paying for it now at work.
Master Milk
Member
I don't know what timezones you guys are in, but it was 2 AM for me when I left.Prototype-03 said:
So, I got a double down just now while up one round playing ranked. Instead of both of us getting a win, only the other guy did . . . Okay, I think I remember reading something about that before. Not a huuuuuge deal, I guess. Start the next round, and oh look, I didn't get a burst for losing the round. What? So wait, not only do I not get a win, but I don't get a lose either? Wow, the game says draws are unacceptable. Ridiculous.
Draws count as a win for both players if the set is even and a win for the disadvantaged player if it's not. So in a FT3 a draw turns 0-0 into 1-1 and 1-0 into 1-1; a draw on 1-1 does nothing. In a FT5 the same rules apply except it can also turn a 1-1 into a 2-2, a 2-0 into 2-1, and a 2-1 into 2-2; again, 2-2 remains 2-2 in a draw.Master Milk said:
I don't know why it doesn't free up your second burst. It doesn't make sense to me because it makes a draw more disadvantageous than a loss.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
[System]
- version 1.10
- version 1.10
FindMyFarms
Member
Ok, i just picked up Continuum Shift. Don't have the DLC characters yet, who should I use?? I want someone solid with a good mixup
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Well that's like 1/3rd of the cast right now, some more specifics would be nice. buuuutFindMyFarms said:
Makoto/Noel/Carl/Rachel/Bang/Taokaka/platinum are all mixed up based in different ways
Prototype-03
Member
InsertNameHere said:
Ragna is the one that makes the most sense coming from SF, BUT, I would not recommend picking up a character based on that. Just watch some videos, or go some challenge modes at least with all the characters and see which one seems to fit you/like the best. Some characters are REALLY hard to pick up (Carl comes to mind), but if you like him, stick to him. This isn't like SF4 where if you know the basics, you can do okay with all the characters.
FindMyFarms
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QisTopTier said:
Someone with really good normals to control space, with up close options that lead to nasty stuff so that when I get in I can kill you really fast (I played cammy remember.) Also i no have dlc!
Prototype-03
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FindMyFarms said:
Tsubaki/Valkenhayn
Prototype-03
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Fugu said:
LOL. You could also go back to Arakune.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I second Tao, But she's the hardest character to learn tied with Carl just cause her inputs are PRECISE as fuck. Imagine doing about 50 plus viper cancels a round. But she's pretty much what you are asking for. Tsubaki is good in that regard too, but she's quite a bit more predictable.
Seriously with this game, use who matches your playstyle the most. Once you pick the character that clicks for you *even if you dont really like the "character"* the game becomes about 50 times more fun. It's also why I changed characters every version. Sometimes the general characters playstyle gets changed up and well due to changes to another character that character starts to click for you.
For example,
In BBCT I used Bang, CS bang is nothing like CT Bang
In BBCS I used Makoto, CS2 makoto is honestly nothing like CS Mak
Now I'm using Mu-12 and the game is as fun as ever.
InsertNameHere said:
Seriously with this game, use who matches your playstyle the most. Once you pick the character that clicks for you *even if you dont really like the "character"* the game becomes about 50 times more fun. It's also why I changed characters every version. Sometimes the general characters playstyle gets changed up and well due to changes to another character that character starts to click for you.
For example,
In BBCT I used Bang, CS bang is nothing like CT Bang
In BBCS I used Makoto, CS2 makoto is honestly nothing like CS Mak
Now I'm using Mu-12 and the game is as fun as ever.
Master Milk
Member
You're gonna pick up Tao?Fugu said:
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Not talking about just the combos. Tao is one of the least straight forward characters in the game if you are playing her right.Fugu said:
Prototype-03
Member
Fugu said:
Oh, I meant FMF
Oh I know, I meant purely execution-wise. Her inputs are all obvious and the lack of empty inputs make her a lot more manageable than Carl and Litchi execution-wise, who have to control things that aren't them.QisTopTier said:
It's ultimately subjective because Tao does a lot more work at neutral than most other characters do in terms of inputs (moreso than everyone except Carl) but I personally think her combos are not difficult enough to warrant her being called more difficult execution wise than either Carl or Litchi.
notworksafe
Member
Hm...maybe I'll pick up this game now.QisTopTier said:
Prototype-03
Member
notworksafe said:Hm...maybe I'll pick up this game now.
Tao was always good in this game. Just hard as hell to use.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I'll just go with the retarded argument that there is a reason tao is one of the least played characters about the same as carl if not less. You master her you rape HARD, but until you can learn how to control every aspect of her movement all her cancels which cancel to do at what time for what types of mix ups, she sucks. She's literally the caterpillar and butterfly of the game for a lame ass metaphor.Fugu said:
Carl might have some hand twist to his controls at first, same for a few of litchi's things, but for the most part their attack patterns are almost always the same. Tao doesn't have that limitation. She's pretty much 100% random wtf is she going to do until of course one of her hits off. But everyone in the cast is the same once a hit gets off *do your bnb's or what not*
The reason carl stays so hard is cause he has shit hit ranges and life. So untill you learn to controll the puppet you are just gonna die. But trust me, as long as you got the mind set right carl isn't as hard to pick up as some would say. I would love to play him if I could play on a stick. *my hand is busted*
Tao has always been really really good, she's just underplayed.notworksafe said:Hm...maybe I'll pick up this game now.
Where I live, Taokaka is pretty popular. Toronto just loves cats. Carl, Litchi and Makoto are easily the unpopular characters here.
I agree that there's a lot of depth to her drive cancelling game but I think that the open-ended gatlings and medium-difficulty combos do a lot for the prospective Tao player. If it weren't for the fact that she is basically limitless on the offensive I think she'd be easily the hardest character in the game, but she has a lot of freedom and can therefore get away with a lot. I don't have enough experience to speak definitively but I'm going based on the guys I know who play Taokaka. It is not much of a struggle to make Taokaka's pressure viable, and that's a big deal (compared to, say, Ragna).
Also, as far as I know Litchi is the only character with two movesets, so I'm not sure what you mean by the "attack patterns are always the same" comment.
There are some players around that play Carl on the pad using the triggers; have you tried that?
I agree that there's a lot of depth to her drive cancelling game but I think that the open-ended gatlings and medium-difficulty combos do a lot for the prospective Tao player. If it weren't for the fact that she is basically limitless on the offensive I think she'd be easily the hardest character in the game, but she has a lot of freedom and can therefore get away with a lot. I don't have enough experience to speak definitively but I'm going based on the guys I know who play Taokaka. It is not much of a struggle to make Taokaka's pressure viable, and that's a big deal (compared to, say, Ragna).
Also, as far as I know Litchi is the only character with two movesets, so I'm not sure what you mean by the "attack patterns are always the same" comment.
There are some players around that play Carl on the pad using the triggers; have you tried that?
notworksafe
Member
Yeah I know but her HP loss and other changes in CS annoyed me enough to not buy it.Prototype-03 said:
I just never liked any other character as much as her. I was interested in Rachel, but not interested enough to make a purchase.It being on discount now and Tao buffs are looking like they'll be enough to change my mind though.
Master Milk
Member
Well, she'll still die in two combos though.