Master Milk
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Platinum's mine!Prototype-03 said:
I think I saw a busted tier list from Japan, and it didn't have Plat on it, so I have no idea where she is, but I can't imagine her being godlike or anything.
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I think I saw a busted tier list from Japan, and it didn't have Plat on it, so I have no idea where she is, but I can't imagine her being godlike or anything.
Prototype-03
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QisTopTier said:I want to use makoto so badly just cause I like her character so much, I just don't like how she plays in CS2 or how she's going to play in CSEX. Oh well Mu-12
How dare you change back your avatar
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
OHPrototype-03 said:
MY
FUCKING
GOD LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Mu got so many buffs she didn't need and I get to use her still cause the play style isnt a drastic change for once on a character I use xDFugu said:
cj_iwakura
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Help me Blazers, I'll be attending my first BB tournament this weekend(Red Spark in Daytona).
I main Tsubaki, but I'm decent with Jin and Hakumen. Should I stick to my guns, or consider switching it up?
I main Tsubaki, but I'm decent with Jin and Hakumen. Should I stick to my guns, or consider switching it up?
Better your matchups with the one character. You won't be allowed to counterpick unless you lose anyway, and if your opponent was able to read you enough to beat you straight-up with your main, switching to an alt won't accomplish much. If you're able to adapt, you won't need to anyway.
cj_iwakura
Member
Fugu said:
There's certain characters I can't touch with Tsubaki. Noel and Hazama are my worst nightmare.
Like most other characters, you out-range Noel by quite a bit. You can use that and charge to more or less turtle her relentlessly because she's got about a billion anti-airs but nothing that beats the range of Tsubaki's 5B. Learn to bait drives and punish them with 236D; they're not safe, so you don't need to treat them like they are. If your opponent uses drives in blockstrings, learn what the overhead looks like and how to bait the command grab (easiest way to do this is to block high and switch to crouching when you see the startup); if you can, that's a free punish. If your opponent doesn't do it, just block high if you're afraid of the overhead and switch to low after it comes out. Poke her out of the cross-up because it's not safe. Make yourself aware of her gatling table because it's relatively shallow, and her safe pressure is quite limited. Use DPs sparingly, as it's usually not worth it in this matchup. Also, and most importantly, don't jump in on Noel. It's just not worth it.cj_iwakura said:
The easiest way to lose against Hazama is to make your approach too predictable. It will go a long way if you just sit down and pay attention to how often you are getting caught by chains. Be aware that Hazama usually has enough time to prevent a punish on a whiff chain, so your entry will probably consist of two attempts. Tsubaki has the best anti-air in the game: Use it. If he tries to approach with his chain, use 2C. Try to bait reversal houtenjins and pay attention to how much meter he has. Stuff like [moves] charge 2A should probably avoided if he has heat because it's too risky. Like Noel, Hazama's safe pressure isn't very scary, and you can use things like shield skills to punish stance cancel if you're confident (and careful) enough. When you are on the defensive, keep your cool and try to get enough charge to capitalize on a hit should you get one. Don't do cheesey stuff like sj charge against Hazama because it's just going to get you hit.
cj_iwakura
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I'm still not THAT good with her, I think I'm getting better though, had some solid wins.
I have a bad habit of relying too much on her B&B(BBCCetc.)
Nothing's more humbling than getting wrecked by a pro Tsubaki(which I just did).
I have a bad habit of relying too much on her B&B(BBCCetc.)
Nothing's more humbling than getting wrecked by a pro Tsubaki(which I just did).
cj_iwakura
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Yep. PSN's cj_iwakura .
cj_iwakura
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I have around half an hour to get some matches in, unless I get some last minute practice before the tourney tomorrow.
I ain't got no warmup
Some notes:
- Don't reset characters with great DPs so often. Same goes for meaties on wakeups. Perhaps learn a frame trap. If you're going to drop your combo, drop it; don't pretend like it didn't happen.
- Be careful about opening consecutive rounds in the same way. Also, don't start rounds with DP. Ever.
- Watch your execution. I doubt sj j.A was intentional. It's online so I can't really tell, but this is a good thing for everyone to pay attention to going into a tournament.
- Burst corner combos earlier. You're bursting at or near the end of most combos.
- sj/dj charge isn't very strong offline. You will be AA'd, particularly by characters like Litchi who have the reach to do it.
- Barrier in the air more. You're letting a lot of easy blocks go because they're air unblockable (6B[m]).
- Use your overhead.
- Use your DP. I would avoid A and B for the most part, but C and D are good for specific situations. Learn how they work.
- Control your mashing. You're whiffing moves on wakeup and getting CH'd in the corner, which is a bad place to be.
- Your bursts were mostly good. Just make sure that when you burst that your burst will connect with your opponent. You were punished quite hard for this one.
- If you are in hitstun and you can't tech, HOLD BACK. This will stifle a good percentage of resets. You are getting reset a lot.
- A lot of Tsubaki players like to jump and backdash to create space. You do this quite a bit, and your opponents will probably be ready for it.
- Using DP to beat tech rolls is a bad habit.
Some notes:
- Don't reset characters with great DPs so often. Same goes for meaties on wakeups. Perhaps learn a frame trap. If you're going to drop your combo, drop it; don't pretend like it didn't happen.
- Be careful about opening consecutive rounds in the same way. Also, don't start rounds with DP. Ever.
- Watch your execution. I doubt sj j.A was intentional. It's online so I can't really tell, but this is a good thing for everyone to pay attention to going into a tournament.
- Burst corner combos earlier. You're bursting at or near the end of most combos.
- sj/dj charge isn't very strong offline. You will be AA'd, particularly by characters like Litchi who have the reach to do it.
- Barrier in the air more. You're letting a lot of easy blocks go because they're air unblockable (6B[m]).
- Use your overhead.
- Use your DP. I would avoid A and B for the most part, but C and D are good for specific situations. Learn how they work.
- Control your mashing. You're whiffing moves on wakeup and getting CH'd in the corner, which is a bad place to be.
- Your bursts were mostly good. Just make sure that when you burst that your burst will connect with your opponent. You were punished quite hard for this one.
- If you are in hitstun and you can't tech, HOLD BACK. This will stifle a good percentage of resets. You are getting reset a lot.
- A lot of Tsubaki players like to jump and backdash to create space. You do this quite a bit, and your opponents will probably be ready for it.
- Using DP to beat tech rolls is a bad habit.
cj_iwakura
Member
Like you need it.
Ow.
Ow.
cj_iwakura
Member
I have no way out of Litchi's death combos.
cj_iwakura
Member
GGs. If a Litchi half as good as you shows up, I'm screwed.
She's so damn versatile. It's like she has an answer for EVERYTHING.
She's so damn versatile. It's like she has an answer for EVERYTHING.
Every character is a little like that though. The reality is that every character has weaknesses and methods to overcome those weaknesses or minimize them. Litchi, for example, has a pretty weak short game with the staff, and a very weak poke game without it. So usually what happens is that players try to drop the staff while they're pressuring people and get it back when they're on the disadvantage so that they can start poking people again. If you're playing your character correctly, it'll look like you have no weaknesses when in reality you're just covering them up well.
cj_iwakura
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Made 6th place. Three Tsubakis, a Noel, an Arakune, a Jin, and a Litchi(not nearly as good as yours). Your advice helped, but I still lost to her and got knocked out of winner's then got finished by the Jin.
Still, it was mad fun.
Still, it was mad fun.
Urban Scholar
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cj_iwakura said:
Florida BB scene at work
Master Milk
Member
Oh, that's awesome! Can't wait. Is it gonna be a mostly BB tourney?Fugu said:
BB is the main event. The tournament is a farewell to CS2 tournament, as our local arcade is getting CSE in December. There's also Melty Blood and AH3 if you're so inclined; I'm playing in AH3 as well but I don't really play the game so it's mostly for fun (AH3 is pure joy if you've never played it before).
Master Milk
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Man, I really wish we had a scene here. It really just sounds like so much fun.
Our scene hates BB. Most of them spend more time criticizing it than they do playing it, which actually works out well for me because I have a lot of ground to cover (they've been playing these kind of games like, ten years longer than I have) so the longer they waste time doing that the more time I have to get better. We have casuals but they're inconsistent; however, the nice thing is that we have like eight major tournaments a year.
Really, my scene is online. I know the players on Ranked better than I know most of the people locally.
Really, my scene is online. I know the players on Ranked better than I know most of the people locally.
cj_iwakura
Member
It's true in most places. BB does not get much of a turnout in the US. Its' all online.
Still, the people who do show up are generally good people. The ones we had knew their stuff. The finals were streamed, I don't know if they got recorded.
http://www.twitch.tv/stormunity
Litchi VS Arakune. Lover's quarrel!
Still, the people who do show up are generally good people. The ones we had knew their stuff. The finals were streamed, I don't know if they got recorded.
http://www.twitch.tv/stormunity
Litchi VS Arakune. Lover's quarrel!
Master Milk
Member
Oman, I just saw a Platinum throw into her Astral!
sixteen-bit
Member
Astrals Are kinda easy to combo into in general. I mean, consider the circumstance. With the opponent at what, 35% health, any 100 heat combo should kill them anyway, so why not do it with flash?Master Milk said:
lol, I think Relius can magic series A->B->C into Astral.
Master Milk
Member
Platinum could combo into bubble and then do it, but that's more trouble than it's worth. Being able to get it from throw is a lot easier._dementia said:
Litchi can't combo into her astral at all. Many characters can't, and those that can can usually only do it if the proration is favorable enough that a regular combo would have killed anyway. But I agree that when it's possible it mostly just serves as an easier way to kill someone (Tsubaki)._dementia said:
sixteen-bit
Member
Non-hand cramp version for me please.
Edit: Saw the link. Are they trying to sell this to pedophiles?
Edit: Saw the link. Are they trying to sell this to pedophiles?
Master Milk
Member
If it were Platinum or Rachel on the pillowcase that kind of statement might make sense, but . . ._dementia said:
sixteen-bit
Member
You did not see the telephone cards apparently.Master Milk said:
Well, I'm getting streamed (...at some point) here: http://www.twitch.tv/TorontoTopTiers We don't really have a play schedule but the tournament has to be done by 7 (EST) so somewhere before then, if you guys want to watch. I apologize in advance for losing, I've had a ridiculously stressful weekend.
Master Milk
Member
Hey hey, think positive! You haven't even played yet, you could pull something off, stressed out or not!Fugu said:
cj_iwakura
Member
thundr51 said:
Rush him down. Keep the pressure on and don't let up. 236C, then bury him with your B&Bs. If he blocks it, try using 4C, 2C, then the aerial combo. Sometimes it catches them off guard since it's an overhead.
Then air dash away before he can follow up.
Master Milk
Member
Looks like the stream's up, if anyone else was planning to watch.Fugu said:
sixteen-bit
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Thanks for the heads upMaster Milk said:
witchedwiz
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out of curiosity, no news about extend being release as a in-game dlc?
Master Milk
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it's coming out on vita, however that workswitchedwiz said:
it's in japanese arcades now
it'll be a disc release in japan for ps360 the same day it comes out for vita
pretty sure we aren't gettin it as dlc
sixteen-bit
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BBCS2 top 8 going on right now
http://www.twitch.tv/teamkhaos
http://www.twitch.tv/teamkhaos
Master Milk
Member
Much thanks._dementia said:
Why the fuck do they have their logos over the meter? D: <
Master Milk
Member
Awesome Plat on the stream now. Damn I suck.