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BlazBlue: Continuum Shift II |OT| The Sequel Blue Me Away

Fugu

Member
Playing against Hakumen online when it's lagging as badly as it does for me becomes an entertaining experience once you come to the realization that winning is impossible. I like to see how long I can go without getting hit by 6C.
 

Drac

Member
I really like the new Challenge mode, it really makes you learn basic combos with each character so you can understand their possibilities and work new combos on your own. The only character I have finished all 10 challenges is Tsubaki, man it hurts when I can't do more than 6 challenges for Litchy, my main from CT :lol But as I do them as I progress in the Story mode so I don't suffer the shame of loss maybe I can do better now, I feel like I have improved a lot of my timings for dash/jump/whatever cancel.
Talking about Story mode, the alternate endings are really crazy, even more than in CT :lol
 

Fugu

Member
Drac said:
I really like the new Challenge mode, it really makes you learn basic combos with each character so you can understand their possibilities and work new combos on your own. The only character I have finished all 10 challenges is Tsubaki, man it hurts when I can't do more than 6 challenges for Litchy, my main from CT :lol But as I do them as I progress in the Story mode so I don't suffer the shame of loss maybe I can do better now, I feel like I have improved a lot of my timings for dash/jump/whatever cancel.
Talking about Story mode, the alternate endings are really crazy, even more than in CT :lol
I can do challenge #10 as Litchi but I can't do 5 or 6.
I don't understand the timing of the combos that involve this:

(Everything is staffless)
5C j.BC Land Dash 5C j.BC

No matter what I do, I can't get that 5C off fast enough.

EDIT: Are you on PS3?
 

Drac

Member
Fugu said:
I can do challenge #10 as Litchi but I can't do 5 or 6.
I don't understand the timing of the combos that involve this:

(Everything is staffless)
5C j.BC Land Dash 5C j.BC

No matter what I do, I can't get that 5C off fast enough.

EDIT: Are you on PS3?

That's one of those I can't do :/ (PS3 also). It's really easy to do in a corner where you don't have to do that dash... Maybe I've been able to connect it one time, but since you have to do this loop 3 times in a row if I remember correctly T_T But as I said I think I have improved my timing working on other characters so I should give it an other shot. Same thing for the last challenge of Ragna, wtf is that double dash ?! You can't really dash cancel an other dash, and you don't even need this shit to connect the rest of the combo...
 

-DarKaoZ-

Banned
You guys both got it wrong! It was Dustloop! :lol

Just wanted to say something funny!
Also funny I did a search and didn't saw his post though. lol
 

cnet128

Banned
Drac said:
Talking about Story mode, the alternate endings are really crazy, even more than in CT :lol
Now that's what I like to hear! The world needs more of [insert any alternate ending involving Bang here]!
 

Fugu

Member
Drac said:
That's one of those I can't do :/ (PS3 also). It's really easy to do in a corner where you don't have to do that dash... Maybe I've been able to connect it one time, but since you have to do this loop 3 times in a row if I remember correctly T_T But as I said I think I have improved my timing working on other characters so I should give it an other shot. Same thing for the last challenge of Ragna, wtf is that double dash ?! You can't really dash cancel an other dash, and you don't even need this shit to connect the rest of the combo...
I found I was able to do the actual combo by dropping the dash because 5C comes out far enough to work without it. But of course if challenge mode specifies that you need to do a dash, then you have to do the dash.

What I found about challenge mode was that the combos were so obscure (most of the time) that no one would ever use them. Higher damage variants almost always exist and are usually easier to perform. As well, maybe my mixups aren't that good, but I can't envision a circumstance when I would ever use a 4kote-cancelled throw combo.
 

Volcynika

Member
Hmm, anyone know any good wallpapers for the game?

While trying to search, I found kind of a nifty PS3 theme for it:

Link

Might use it since I don't have one now :lol
 

Fugu

Member
akachan ningen said:
I get the feeling there won't be many people playing this online. It'll be like ssf4 but way worse. How well did the first BB sell anyway?
I'm playing right now and it doesn't take me much longer than a few seconds to get a match. In fact, the feature where it lets you play Arcade mode while you wait to be put in a ranked game is pointless because you'll never finish a round, let a lone a match (and it's not even out yet in most of the world!)
CT sold decently outside of Japan. It had a big community until CS was mishmashed onto the PC and even then, it was still very easy to find a game.

I just encountered a player using the English voices, anyone know how that's possible? He was also a real putz and left the game after he lost (thereby counting it as an incomplete match for me).
 

QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
akachan ningen said:
I get the feeling there won't be many people playing this online. It'll be like ssf4 but way worse. How well did the first BB sell anyway?
I don't play randoms online often anyways. and I still see people here and there online in bbct up til this month and good players too.
 

Forbiden

Member
QisTopTier said:
I don't play randoms online often anyways. and I still see people here and there online in bbct up til this month and good players too.

The last times I've played, there have been people online playing, but I don't know if it's because of my shitty connection or what, but sometimes it takes like 2 minutes to find a player.

When CT first came out, there were actually a lot of people playing online, both ranked and friendlies. So I don't think that there will be a lack of online players with CS selling more(at least so far in Japan) than CT.
 

arstal

Whine Whine FADC Troll
akachan ningen said:
I get the feeling there won't be many people playing this online. It'll be like ssf4 but way worse. How well did the first BB sell anyway?

I heard it sold about 500k. Did surprisingly well. It's the anime fan crowd that got into this.

Part of the reason CT died off quick was due to poor balance. CS is supposed to have better balance I believe.
 

remz

Member
arstal said:
I heard it sold about 500k. Did surprisingly well. It's the anime fan crowd that got into this.

Part of the reason CT died off quick was due to poor balance. CS is supposed to have better balance I believe.
I know I'll be playing online way more this time around, now that they fixed that shit up.
 

Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
can Q or prototype send me another BB chat invite? im back on my own ps3 and chat invites are stored locally. :(
 

Drac

Member
Seriously wth with the comic endings in story mode, Jin ranking ending :lol All those are actually longer than the true story, I get the feeling more efforts went in this than the other part of the game :lol
 

Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
Drac said:
Seriously wth with the comic endings in story mode, Jin ranking ending :lol All those are actually longer than the true story, I get the feeling more efforts went in this than the other part of the game :lol
is this like the tao/bang ending in BBCT?
 
Ugh my friend was winning to ship me the Japanese LE but I can't justify the price difference between the versions. I though it was going to be more in NA until I went to pre order it.

Oh well, two weeks to go...
 
Pandaman said:
can Q or prototype send me another BB chat invite? im back on my own ps3 and chat invites are stored locally. :(

Sure. I'll probably make a new GAF Chat for BBCS instead and invite you there. BBCT chat is dead.

_dementia said:
litchi and bang getting meterless 3.5k+ off a dirty look says :lol

It's not the fact that they're meterless... With Bang, he can get 3.5k off a JAB or OVERHEAD. In contrast, Tsubaki does around 1.5k-1.9k off of jabs/overheads =(
 

arstal

Whine Whine FADC Troll
Prototype-03 said:
Sure. I'll probably make a new GAF Chat for BBCS instead and invite you there. BBCT chat is dead.



It's not the fact that they're meterless... With Bang, he can get 3.5k off a JAB or OVERHEAD. In contrast, Tsubaki does around 1.5k-1.9k off of jabs/overheads =(

Does Tsubaki do anything better then Bang?
 
Fugu said:
I found I was able to do the actual combo by dropping the dash because 5C comes out far enough to work without it. But of course if challenge mode specifies that you need to do a dash, then you have to do the dash.

What I found about challenge mode was that the combos were so obscure (most of the time) that no one would ever use them. Higher damage variants almost always exist and are usually easier to perform. As well, maybe my mixups aren't that good, but I can't envision a circumstance when I would ever use a 4kote-cancelled throw combo.

The purposes of most challenge mode combos that are well done are to give you a grasp of the system as well as how to exploit things you might not normally think of. There's one at the end of SFEX2+ with Ken where you end up super canceling into a super, CANCEL that particular super from completing then juggling with a crouching MP, jumping FP and special canceling that into a mid-air tatsu. The rest of the super hits do more damage than the rest of the combo as you're supposed to do it, and the combo itself does less damage for the single meter than other previous combos, but it reveals how some of the juggling system works.

That and it's fun to do the combo mid-match just to show off. :lol
 

Degen

Member
Good to hear that Hakumen (still) owns despite lag. I AM THE COLD STEEL! I AM THE 6C!

arstal said:
I heard it sold about 500k. Did surprisingly well. It's the anime fan crowd that got into this.
Part of the reason CT died off quick was due to poor balance. CS is supposed to have better balance I believe.
mind if I bitch and moan at this IRL for a sec?
 

Fugu

Member
_dementia said:
litchi and bang getting meterless 3.5k+ off a dirty look says :lol
Litchi's 5B 5C 3C Itsuu C opener (The opener resulting in combos doing 3.5k) is pretty easy to predict and it's easy to punish a whiffed 5B (or 5C for that matter, the latter of which is not safe on IB). The Itsuu loop combos are even easier to punish (and they only work in the corner). Litchi does big damage, but it's not EZ MODO damage like Bang can sometimes be. Unless you're playing as Rachel, your matchup against Litchi isn't hopeless.
Also, Litchi does shit damage off of any pokes and her only staff overhead is extremely slow and punishable on block.

Good to hear that Hakumen (still) owns despite lag. I AM THE COLD STEEL! I AM THE 6C!
Hakumen owns because of the lag. The lag lets Hakumen get away with a lot of stupid shit that he shouldn't be able to get away with. On top of giving him a lot of extra leverage with his poke (very hard to punish because you can't really react on the fly), he beats a lot of people out simply because it takes him less inputs to deal big damage. Obviously that's not an issue in a lagless match, but with the lag it can be very hard to keep a big combo consistent for characters who rely on big combos (I can't do any Itsuu A stuff online because that requires me to combo someone next to the staff, jump on the staff, and combo them off of the staff and that's too hard to do with ~5-10 frames of lag).


hikarutilmitt said:
The purposes of most challenge mode combos that are well done are to give you a grasp of the system as well as how to exploit things you might not normally think of. There's one at the end of SFEX2+ with Ken where you end up super canceling into a super, CANCEL that particular super from completing then juggling with a crouching MP, jumping FP and special canceling that into a mid-air tatsu. The rest of the super hits do more damage than the rest of the combo as you're supposed to do it, and the combo itself does less damage for the single meter than other previous combos, but it reveals how some of the juggling system works.

That and it's fun to do the combo mid-match just to show off. :lol
I don't disagree. It's true that I didn't know you could cancel a throw with kote. Now I know you can, and that there's not really much point. :lol
 
Fugu said:
Hakumen owns because of the lag. The lag lets Hakumen get away with a lot of stupid shit that he shouldn't be able to get away with. On top of giving him a lot of extra leverage with his poke (very hard to punish because you can't really react on the fly), he beats a lot of people out simply because it takes him less inputs to deal big damage. Obviously that's not an issue in a lagless match, but with the lag it can be very hard to keep a big combo consistent for characters who rely on big combos (I can't do any Itsuu A stuff online because that requires me to combo someone next to the staff, jump on the staff, and combo them off of the staff and that's too hard to do with ~5-10 frames of lag).

He's also really, REALLY good this time around. That new air C hurts like a mother. Can't mistake him for the CT version. Plus he has a full life combo with his DD.
 

-DarKaoZ-

Banned
QisTopTier said:
Then you are blind cause you posted on the same page it was on after I put it up already... do you happen to main Tsubaki :lol

Seriously I miss it, I was reading around and for some reason I miss your post. :lol

Before I posted I check the last page of the topic and then I use google search and use "makoto footage" and didn't find it, I only got results of page 15. :lol

Maybe I should had used "makoto preview" instead of footage. Anyways, didn't want to take out your credit, I really did search before posting, but GAF google search fail me again. =(
 

Fugu

Member
Prototype-03 said:
He's also really, REALLY good this time around. That new air C hurts like a mother. Can't mistake him for the CT version. Plus he has a full life combo with his DD.
Yeah but that has no relevance in online play. Nothing has changed about Hakumen insofar as his ability to do a lot of damage in not a lot of hits.

Also, to Litchi, everyone is bad.
 
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