Lostconfused
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Who cares about consoles when you can get your ass handed to you at an arcade.QisTopTier said:
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BlazBlue: Continuum Shift II |OT| The Sequel Blue Me Away
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:lolTheSeks said:So overrated you can make TTOB ragequit.
Also did Noel's Gag ending today. WTF. :lol
I didn't make TTOB ragequit
and I didn't zone him either. Papercuts can tell you himself, I simply refuse to properly zone with Lambda. lol
The Take Out Bandit
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SolarPowered said:
Working on it!
I'm trying to use B more, didn't know about D in air. Right now since I'm trying to find my feet I'm avoiding a lot of heavier attacks that come out slow, definitely puts me at a disadvantage.
How do you mean from block? Do you mean some kind of cancel out of block with it, or waiting until the attacker finishes the combo then throwing? The problem I'm having now is when an enemy finishes an attack sequence when I'm blocking, if I try to come out with a 360 it whiffs. So I don't use it as often.
One thing I consistently hate about modern fighters is missed throw animations (even for normals, come on!) and the toning down of instant throws. Today it feels like throws are so nerfed and everybody has thalidomide baby arms. :|
You'll note I was trying to block more, use barrier block, and also recover and go into block tonight.
Problem I'm running into is I don't know how to retaliate best after I've managed to block a face full of f*ck. As I mentioned above my throws feel unreliable. Note also the amount of invisible people I hug during a match.
I'm aware of it, but seeing as how I'm still learning my ABC's it's tought to pull stuff off reliably under pressure. Game moves too god damned fast. :lol
A lot of the wacky combos I managed to get tonight with magnetism were shenanigans. I swear there's some input prediction going on here because I wasn't inputting command for air grab as a finisher and it was coming out.
Not that I'm complaining; but like I said - game speed is crazy and I'm still getting my feet under me. :X
Thanks for the feedback. I'm definitely trying to incorporate everything you and Papercuts are providing, so I should be intermediate level in another six months. :lol
I was reading DL thread and there's mention of some interrupt move with 6+A+B during block, is this useful and is this the correct input for Tager? My wifi wasn't working when we were playing so I couldn't check. I think my router may be dying.
DY_nasty said:
I'm too stupid to ragequit, which makes me a great fighting game player! And by great, I mean likely to repeatedly be punched in the face and learn very little in the process.
Getting your ass kicked is part of playing fighting games unfortunately. Took about a year of practice at pizza shops before I got my revenge in the Knoebel's Grove arcade back when SF2 came out. Once I beat those guys, new challengers appeared and I had to learn to deal with them. At least this only cost me $39.99 once, as opposed to god knows how much money at pizza shops, video stores, and local arcades.
Well at least we both agree to play our mains like idiots. :lol
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Lostconfused said:
=( I can't play in aracades though my hand is messed up xD gotta use a pad
WickedLaharl
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well i continue to be XBL punching bag :lol
by some crazy ass miracle i've managed ti get lvl 20.
guess everyone has to win sometime, right?
by some crazy ass miracle i've managed ti get lvl 20.
guess everyone has to win sometime, right?
akachan ningen
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Do you ever go to console tournaments?QisTopTier said:
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No way to get to one, although I have people that ask me to go :lolakachan ningen said:
SolarPowered
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Oh, I forgot to mention something last night. You are too active at this point. If you've got to work defense for 60 seconds instead of 40 seconds you don't have to worry. This is the kind of fighter that promotes smart thinking, not heavy chip damage. It's part of Tager's nature to punish someone heavily after blocking everything thrown at him. You could be more patient instead of breaking under pressure.The Take Out Bandit said:
All of the points I touched on are actually practiced in this video. You'll see heavy defense on the part of multiple characters. You'll see people using magnetism to their advantage and you'll see how valuable 5D is in the air. I would recommend that you see the entire thing, but you can start watching after the 20 minute mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh9azfjDKMI&feature=PlayList&p=7B4952600B467818&index=16
Shadow Red
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Man, I can't wait for Valkenhayn. His move sets look amazing.
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Oh awesome where can I see this at please don't direct me to a 5 second videoShadow Red said:
Prototype-03
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QisTopTier said:
it's a secret to future Valkenhayn players. I'll tell you what they are... It's called: AWESOME MOVE SETS!!!!
PS: don't touch him
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Prototype-03 said:
I already have the character I wanted since ct xD
Meh, I'm pretty low level too. I don't take too much stock in ratings or rankings anymore after SSF4. I was a top 50 US Juri player for a while... but that shit just becomes frustrating and pointless after a while. Its not a measure of anything at all really.WickedLaharl said:
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QisTopTier said:
Yeah well, this is mine xD Then again, you already knew that.
So I finally started playing this after ignoring it for so long. Damn Starcraft 2.
There's so much dialogue in story mode that I didn't feel like getting 100%, so I just decided I do enough to unlock Mu. Didn't really like her playstyle so much even though I main Lambda.
As far as Lambda goes, the changes to her really didn't phase me that much. Just one or two combos I had to change, and I'm liking her new charge move, whatever it's called.
I also downloaded Makoto, and I'm loving her. I think I'm definitely going to make her my new second. I can't really get the hang of her parry, but I love her balance of offense and defense and just the way she moves and operates.
There's so much dialogue in story mode that I didn't feel like getting 100%, so I just decided I do enough to unlock Mu. Didn't really like her playstyle so much even though I main Lambda.
As far as Lambda goes, the changes to her really didn't phase me that much. Just one or two combos I had to change, and I'm liking her new charge move, whatever it's called.
I also downloaded Makoto, and I'm loving her. I think I'm definitely going to make her my new second. I can't really get the hang of her parry, but I love her balance of offense and defense and just the way she moves and operates.
Prototype-03
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ZealousD said:
Mu and Lambda are nothing alike. Lambda plays you by locking you down in close-mid range with the emphasis in mid range. Mu plays you by traps in mid-long range in emphasis in long range. They've done a great job at keeping the characters different. It's to the point where you can't really play another character even if you're really good with one char.
Also, don't focus TOO much on Makoto's parry. You don't really NEED it to play her well but it's really good if someone is playing predictably. Or to parry cancel -- which you don't really need it either.
Prototype-03
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ZealousD said:
Yeah, you don't really need it. Besides, 3C beats everything anyway.
sixteen-bit
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sixteen-bit
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you mean anyone can look good when fighting a significantly lesser-skilled opponentEl Sloth said:
tiers very much have merit
tsurugi no mai
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I want Ginseng's skills. I have Drayne-O's (from the first fight) skills._dementia said:
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DY_nasty said:
NO HE ZONES THATS BORRING. and uhhh Japanese ones are better, but yeah he's good
God damn that was the worst freaking makoto ever
Prototype-03
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El Sloth said:
Um, no... Not with Tsubaki... She has some HORRIBLE matchups. Obviously if you're higher skilled, you'll beat a lower skill level, but it's pretty bad when Tsubaki loses when people are just jabbing.
Most of the zoning that Lambda lovers emphasize is based on running away and keeping a half screen cushion at all times(Zoning - huzzah!). I'm okay with that, but at the same time I think many Lambda users cheat themselves out a good game outside of just zoning. Goryus is one of the few players who actually knows how and when to play aggressive. Zoning is great with her, yeah, but it doesn't have just to be her main tool - Lambda's a more diverse character than that and it sucks that most people who pick her think that she's only effective from the other side of the screen.QisTopTier said:NO HE ZONES THATS BORRING. and uhhh Japanese ones are better, but yeah he's good
God damn that was the worst freaking makoto ever
Most of the Japanese players... not my thing.
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DY_nasty said:
Notice how they win .... yeah
reposting my friend combo video for tsubaki.
he's pretty good at her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN-_6IDlUWs
he's pretty good at her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN-_6IDlUWs
_dementia said:
Until someone like Gamerbee beats Justin Wong with a previously considered low tier character. And then there's that Dan player who was beasting fools online at SBO.
Maybe those are bad examples, but what I'm trying to say is that I think the player's personal skill is much more important than a characters perceived shortcomings.
The Take Out Bandit
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El Sloth said:
It's definitely a predisposition to masochism that helps. I suspect the victory may come form tier worshipers underestimating your character and thusly getting trounced for underestimating your commitment to getting your face punched in.
Wins are wins, yeahQisTopTier said:Notice how they win .... yeah
But its really no fun for me that way. I won way more matches with Tscrubaki actually... Its just that there's only one way to play her 'right'. I'm just gonna keep beating my head against this wall until I get my rhythm with back. I used to be a lot better with Nu back in the good old Nothing is more satisfying than jumping in against a Tager then catching them with a 4B lol(i) special.
The Take Out Bandit
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SolarPowered said:
Thanks.
Watched GMMA_Jan's Tager matches. The one where he pulls out the victory with the sliver of health was AMAZING.
Also noted two useful combos.
However there's a lot here I'll need to pick up from just playing more. He seems to know when to apply the moves I've read / been told are good, whereas I don't know when to apply them without getting punished. It's a simple thing, but it's there.
Also wasn't noticing a lot of 360 out of block in there.
Thanks again. Maybe I'll be able to get in some matches tomorrow. Plans tonight and yesterday pulled a longer shift at work so I was spent when I got home. >_<;
Shadow Red
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Have you guys been checking up on that Phase 0? There are scans with a
looking badass.
younger Valkenhayn
Prototype-03
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So I decided to pick up Ragna until Valkenhayn gets released. Holy crap it makes a huge difference. One night of mediocre Ragna and I already feel like I'm doing better than Tsubaki. Bigger hitbox, higher priority... Even my broken combos do more damage than the 0 level combos and sometimes even more than one charge combos.
The only thing I really miss is her 2C... That move was gdlk
This is what it feels to have a top tier again :lol
The only thing I really miss is her 2C... That move was gdlk
This is what it feels to have a top tier again :lol
CornBurrito
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El Sloth said:
The people that craft the tiers understand the bold. The tiers simply try and tell you which character has the best tools for winning. Any moron can tell that Rachel, who can't zone well, can't do close combat well, and needs 50% meter to deal 3k damage, has lesser tools than Litchi who has good pokes at all ranges, and can get 4k damage, oki, and 50% meter off almost any poke.
A Rachel can beat a Litchi. One has to work way harder because of having shittier tools.
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Obsessed said:
Quoted for truth. Also, matchup knowledge plays to a certain extent too. I think Gamerbee also did well because no one really played Adon (at least not in high level). So when he came along, people didn't know what to do against his attacks. Guaranteed that in next year's evo, people would have figured Adon out.
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My bad on the late response. I've been a bit busy even though I found time to get pissed at microsoft, ubisoft and the game industry in general(you know what I'm talking about :lol ).The Take Out Bandit said:
Yeah, those matches are a treat for almost any tager player to watch. Tager is definitely tricky to play with in this game. There are so many rapid fire characters who can nearly be in two places at once that it gets overwhelming trying to block it all. We should play again sometime(I got lots of days off in the coming weeks!).
I looked it up and I have to admit that I'm impressed. The art is certainly high quality and it gives us the bonus of explaining what happened before the game(story mode). I hope it sheds some light on the mystery behind Hakumen(how in the hell did ___ turn into ______?).Shadow Red said:
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SolarPowered said:
I'm good for the weekend so far. Been busy with work this week and other projects, yesterday was too darned hot so I left the Xbox off and read some awesome comics instead.
SephirothRK
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Just a japanese stream:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/gamers-vision
probably going to end soon.
also there's the Canadian tournament T11. Console character banned in BBCS.:lol Unfortunately BBCS won't be streamed T.T
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/gamers-vision
probably going to end soon.
also there's the Canadian tournament T11. Console character banned in BBCS.:lol Unfortunately BBCS won't be streamed T.T