GIANKRATOS
Member
I did check the cloud, but there was only one old save...
I wanted to help a friend with a boss, turned on the ps4, i don't know why the power went off, corrupted data
And that's actually the first time ever that happen to me
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I did check the cloud, but there was only one old save...
I wanted to help a friend with a boss, turned on the ps4, i don't know why the power went off, corrupted data
And that's actually the first time ever that happen to me
I lost my save when my PS+ expired. I decided to play offline, and for some reason I had to reinstall random things like themes, some digital titles, and the patch. Then it couldn't find my save. So I was like, oh maybe it's just because I don't have PS+. So I ordered a card and had 2 days to wait, played a new game. No biggy, wanted to try a new build anyway.
2 Days later, plug in my code for PS+. And it uploads my new game overwriting my 80 hour save >_<;
2 Days later, plug in my code for PS+. And it uploads my new game overwriting my 80 hour save >_<;
I felt the same way, it''s the only area in the game I didn't explore fully because I wasn't having any fun. It was just joyless difficulty.
Just before the Frenzy guy you can drop off the edge to the ledge below and carefully make your way past him that way. If you come up behind him you can hide behind a rock and when he turns and walks the opposite way you can sneak behind him and backstab him and if you have a powerful enough weapon you'll kill him without him having a chance to attack.
KennyLinder
Member
I think I need to do either Great Isz or Lower Loran to get the last 2 Red Jelly items required to open the final Dungeon (for the Trophy).
Any recommendations on which is easier or has better Gems etc? Happy to do both really, but if I can basically skip one, I will.
Any recommendations on which is easier or has better Gems etc? Happy to do both really, but if I can basically skip one, I will.
Melchiah
Member
I did check the cloud, but there was only one old save...
I wanted to help a friend with a boss, turned on the ps4, i don't know why the power went off, corrupted data
And that's actually the first time ever that happen to me
That's very frustrating, especially when there's only one save file. That's why I check the save file on the server is up to date from time to time. Now, I kinda want to make an extra copy on a USB-stick as well just in case.
I had to farm some Ritual Blood (5) before I could open it, I think because I had to create another Chalice to farm the Jelly. If you need depth 5 ritual blood like I did; use this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgHwk91gUwg
It just takes forever, but you need to hit him once after he breathes the fire then back off (which I think you are probably doing since you say you're using L2). If you do co-op, it's much easier and you can be on your way.
The Paw/Fire attack is what messes up my rhythm and the fights length kinda makes my concentration drift the longer it goes. :/
KennyLinder
Member
Took me forever, I got co-op help in the end as he didn't want to play. I think he's the toughest boss in the game so far (done all the story and dungeons up until this one).
KennyLinder
Member
Thanks, handy to know if I need them!
If you want high level physical radials then Pthumeru Ihyll depth 5 dungeons are your best bet, keep in mind that cursed dungeons mean cursed gems though. Also equip some runes to increase your discovery.
Got the game last week... the World/Level Design is absolutely absurd.
From Software Level Designers are friggin' masters.
The game itself is great too! But the Level Design totally blows my mind.
From Software Level Designers are friggin' masters.
The game itself is great too! But the Level Design totally blows my mind.
Yeah the way it all intertwines with the shortcuts is just brilliant. You open some gate and you're like "holy shit, I'm back here?!"
That's what I keep reading, but that wasn't true for me for whatever reason. At 30 VIT with around 1100HP, I'd kill the eye brain guy without getting hit and have full HP and then the frenzy meter maxes and it kills me instantly "YOU DIED" screen 100% HP.
This happened at 30 insight so I went and spent all my insight at the shop and went back at 4 insight and it still killed me with a full life bar.
Eventually farmed the Lecture Hall Floor 1 theater room and got a bunch of sedatives and just killed eye guy and used one right away and it was fine. But yeah I have no idea why it was an instant death status effect for me when everything I'm reading online says it should only be bringing you to near death.
KittenMaster
Member
You probably weren't paying attention to your hit points when you were getting frenzied.
Also I recommend
The actual "bolts" that hit you will do damage in of themselves.
Also I recommend
having the +200 frenzy rune. No other form of frenzy resistance is viable. The changes Insight makes is fairly minimal.
Spiritwalker
Member
Just killed the hunter NPC (NG+) in
legit for the first time, and it was so very satisfying. Took me 4 or 5 attempts with Blade of Mercy. No parrying.
Grand Cathedral
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Anyone want to join me? I'm just milling about. Level 50.
Indeed! I had like 5 moments like that ... and yesterday i was breaking some coffins and stuff and BAM! i found another crazy shortcut.
BASED FROM SOFTWARE!
Psychoward
Banned
What do the icons mean under the gestures? Is there a way to activate them without pressing left on the touchpad first?
You hold X and then do the motion. Doesn't work that well.
par·ry
ward off (a weapon or attack), especially with a countermove.
It is a parrying system by definition and a good one at that. Your warm up and cool-downs are balanced by those designing the combat. However, they are also balanced by animation. Gunshots are designed to animate properly alongside melee. Enemy designers are not doing to restrict all attacks to specific warm-ups and animators are not going to ship clunky animations. Therefore you will have psychic parries (maybe), fast up-close parries (due to bullet travel & attack speed), and slower parries. If you want to make psychic parries go away, you need to change the enemy designs (not smart) or have an absurdly fast start-up for gun-shots (also not smart). Or you could just let some attacks be faster then most players can handle (best choice). Does this push players to a distance? Yes but so what. It's how the vast majority play the title and nobody is making you do that. You have i-frames on dodge to use instead as well.
Distance parries are perfectly fine. The objective is to interrupt attacks and you have a gun. It's nonsensical to not permit range parries with a firearm. That's the logical progression of parrying with a firearm vs. a melee weapon. Take it away and you are doing melee parries. Play another game if that's the want.
Trades are fine. Having the regain system means that you create a sub-game within the combat. If you get hit, sometimes you can roll back into the enemy, regain, and get a visceral. Sometimes you are put into a position and can't, eating the damage. That's what risk/reward is and it was a successful parry, so you earned that chance. There are other ways to do it but this is a good choice.
Frame analysis needs conclusions. Start-up and cool-downs are properly tuned. The only meat on this discussion is the existence of psychic parries. Counting frames to prove there is only a fraction of a second to respond is not a conclusion. You need to take a fast attack, use video capture plus frame analysis to isolate the parry window, run the numbers to calculate time data, and use video to show if they are psychic. Even more in depth would be to test and factor in lag, controller, display, etc... And even if they exist, all BB does is join a lot of other action titles out there including the best of the best.
The only issues I have with the parry system is that it is too forgiving (windows are too large) and there is no way to differentiate a parryable attack from a non-parryable.
Quite amazing stuff indeed. If only time wasn't a factor and some of the levels had a bit longer to bake.
Hypemaster
Member
Wrong thread
86 Hours in and finally finishing up the game. Here's my character as she was dressed for the final third or so of the game:
My final stats before going into the final boss(es) area. Please note the 15 Vitality:
And finally, here's me (after many attempts) completely stomping
in under two minutes after a shaky start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6dwOXjyn-M
My final stats before going into the final boss(es) area. Please note the 15 Vitality:
And finally, here's me (after many attempts) completely stomping
Gehrman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6dwOXjyn-M
Orochinagis
Member
In that phase the dog will lure you to get closer and try the three hits combo on you, you have to predict where to do a hit and backup, when it reachs 15% it will do a final charge attack.
cormack12
Gold Member
Hit the first pain in the ass area for me personally just now. Nightmare frontier. The enemies actually aren't that bad, the real enemy is the swamp and direction. Not even sure I'm going the right way.....
Also, this area feels like it just had no effort put into it compared to the game up to now :/ Feels like it's there just to pad the levels out, and then enemy designs have just dropped off completely. Probably serves as a good grinding ground I guess.
Anyway, I drop into the swamp and run basically North until I see a yeti on the floor in a little tunnel. Deal with him then come across this weird brain on a body with insect eyes and tentacles? First time I just get too close and he eats me. Second time I'm not sure what happens, I have a full health bar, activate arcane for my weapon and engage with it. I get these weird red and black pipes on my character and then I'm dead - no idea wtf happened??
Am I heading the right way to unlock the shortcut to the lamp and boss at least? Also, is this where I access the lecture hall ground floor from? I've already been taken there by the tonsil stone, but there's another floor?
Cheers
Also, this area feels like it just had no effort put into it compared to the game up to now :/ Feels like it's there just to pad the levels out, and then enemy designs have just dropped off completely. Probably serves as a good grinding ground I guess.
Anyway, I drop into the swamp and run basically North until I see a yeti on the floor in a little tunnel. Deal with him then come across this weird brain on a body with insect eyes and tentacles? First time I just get too close and he eats me. Second time I'm not sure what happens, I have a full health bar, activate arcane for my weapon and engage with it. I get these weird red and black pipes on my character and then I'm dead - no idea wtf happened??
Am I heading the right way to unlock the shortcut to the lamp and boss at least? Also, is this where I access the lecture hall ground floor from? I've already been taken there by the tonsil stone, but there's another floor?
Cheers
Yes, it's miserable, I guess fitting for a Nightmare. I just went through it yesterday.
Eyeball guy causes Frenzy status ailment which grows when you're nearby and even after you kill him. When the meter fills you go POP and either die or apparently can survive with a slimmer of health. Either get Frenzy resistance +200 rune from the forest or just farm the theater room in the lecture hall until you get a sedative and take one of those before your frenzy meter fills completely and you die. There's a shortcut after that before the boss area to the start area.
There's also another shortcut after 3 boulder throwing guys, it'll get you the HP+10% rune which is not bad.
cormack12
Gold Member
Ah, will have to go back to hunters dream and swap runes out then. Must have been a fast build up, I usually pick up on frenzy (e.g. Cainhurst), and poison (e.g Forbidden woods) - that bar must have filled up pretty swiftly after appearing!! Not sure if I have high RES gear though.......
KennyLinder
Member
Defiled Layer 3
THOSE SNEAKY BASTARDS...
Right, boss time, then its on to the last but one dungeon. Great Isz or Lower Loran..
THOSE SNEAKY BASTARDS...
I noticed in the corner of my eye in a corridor I had already come from was a new enemy. Just sort of sitting there waiting.. I carried on through the area, up some stairs and then I looked down from where I had been, and the fucker had moved and was waiting for me. I got to the last room and got the grand chest, and Bold Hunter Marked the fuck outta there I could hear it breathing and lapping its tongue. If I wasn't carrying 200k of Vials I probably would of taken it on.
Pretty cool though that they put that enemy in there that is hunting you down basically. Creepy
I could hear it breathing and lapping its tongue. If I wasn't carrying 200k of Vials I probably would of taken it on. Pretty cool though that they put that enemy in there that is hunting you down basically. Creepy
Right, boss time, then its on to the last but one dungeon. Great Isz or Lower Loran..
JimmyRustler
Member
Nightmare of Mensis
This is probably the coolest thing I have seen in a videogame, ever. I can't believe Fromsoft actually used that gesture in a meaningful way in the game. I already thought it would be crazy if the gesture has some effect in game and then it actually has. Unbelieveable.
I'm slowly realizing that this is probably the best game I have ever played. I do not remember ever being this faszinated by a game. What a masterpiece.
Just made contact with the Brain of Mensis....
This is probably the coolest thing I have seen in a videogame, ever. I can't believe Fromsoft actually used that gesture in a meaningful way in the game. I already thought it would be crazy if the gesture has some effect in game and then it actually has. Unbelieveable.
I'm slowly realizing that this is probably the best game I have ever played. I do not remember ever being this faszinated by a game. What a masterpiece.
JESUS JESUS JESUS JESUS JESUS!!
Just entered the Nightmere realm... and was crossing a bridge and all of a sudden i saw that a bell ringing woman rang a sinister bell.... I PANICKED and high tailed it back to the lantern.... when i was like 50 feet away from the lantern i saw a red hunter coming up towards me... HOLY CRAP i almost crapped my pants...
I was like wtf i didn't ring MY bell how did he get in..
He looked at me and bowed. I started praying... and then the match was on...
I feel like i could have had him like two different times. if only i understood the mechanics better.
He was using the heavy version of the holy blade and i used my two handed ax... I got him down two times to within a sliver of his life... so he started backing away to heal.. i would run after him but he would alwyas get it off. after like 2 minutes of back and forth we were both down to like half health... at which time i backed off to heal.. and he shot me! i was stunned! he shot and shot and shot and shot... i was stun locked wtf? i didn't know getting shot when you heal puts you in a stun lock..
anwywyas he shot me over and over until i had barely any health so i gave up trying to run around to heal and rushed him.. got him pretty low but he sealed the deal with a wide swing
....
holy crap... now i'm afraid to continue the game...
Just entered the Nightmere realm... and was crossing a bridge and all of a sudden i saw that a bell ringing woman rang a sinister bell.... I PANICKED and high tailed it back to the lantern.... when i was like 50 feet away from the lantern i saw a red hunter coming up towards me... HOLY CRAP i almost crapped my pants...
I was like wtf i didn't ring MY bell how did he get in..
He looked at me and bowed. I started praying... and then the match was on...
I feel like i could have had him like two different times. if only i understood the mechanics better.
He was using the heavy version of the holy blade and i used my two handed ax... I got him down two times to within a sliver of his life... so he started backing away to heal.. i would run after him but he would alwyas get it off. after like 2 minutes of back and forth we were both down to like half health... at which time i backed off to heal.. and he shot me! i was stunned! he shot and shot and shot and shot... i was stun locked wtf? i didn't know getting shot when you heal puts you in a stun lock..
anwywyas he shot me over and over until i had barely any health so i gave up trying to run around to heal and rushed him.. got him pretty low but he sealed the deal with a wide swing
....
holy crap... now i'm afraid to continue the game...
Orochinagis
Member
Congratz, its better to those bosses alone, coop made them kinda impossible to kill.
Thats the BB experience for you
JadedWriter
Member
Yahargul with its bell ringing bitches at every turn and Nightmare Frontier with its shit ass level design can kiss my fucking ass. Oddly enough I was in the Frontier and it summoned some random guy with a burial blade that I managed to kill with one visceral attack. How is this guy that weak when he managed to get the Burial Blade?
Just means he didnt invest much in vitality at all.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Frenzy caused by the Brain Trust enemies *damages* you even before the Frenzy meter itself is filled (notice your character gets assaulted by various transparent spears).
Frenzy's "explosion" will never kill you if you are at full health so you just probably didn't notice that Frenzy damages your HP before the explosion at full Frenzy occurs.
I didn't get much spoiled for me in my first playthrough, but this was the one thing I wish I found out on my own. I went looking for
the brain after its Demon-Souls-deja-vu plunge, but overlooked the elevator down, assuming it just fell into a bottomless abyss
the make-contact gesture was something special, if only because of where we find it, and the motion's out-of-place absurdity compared to the other more socially-explicable gestures
Great One to direct it at who wouldn't disembowel me instantly
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Probably because
it is surrounded by a huge body of water.
It is said that for some reason huge bodies of water can act as a buffer that impede the powers of a Great One, IIRC.
It is said that for some reason huge bodies of water can act as a buffer that impede the powers of a Great One, IIRC.
Psychoward
Banned
Am I missing something with clock tower guy? Can't visceral him, do shit damage, he's resistant to fire....
Plus there's no shortcut straight to him :/
Plus there's no shortcut straight to him :/
Orochinagis
Member
the guy didnt survived the damage due being poor on vitality and probably you invested plenty of points on STR/Skill.
Thats a good question, Is the old man still alive in your world?.
The crow? Is a
hunter of hunters
Psychoward
Banned
I know but I have no idea how to beat him, is he mandatory? Can't find the next lantern.