Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Nah. He, and in fact that whole entire area, is optional.
You *can* parry him however. The easiest way to deal with him is just to shoot at him multiple times with a pistol as soon as you arrive on his little area.
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Nah. He, and in fact that whole entire area, is optional.
You *can* parry him however. The easiest way to deal with him is just to shoot at him multiple times with a pistol as soon as you arrive on his little area.
Psychoward
Banned
wait what I thought that it was part of the main stuff, and I just sold the pistol great
i'll try and parry him, but last time I tried to visceral it didn't register, is he immune to that?
Ended up blowing through the rest of the game including all the optional stuff besides Chalice Dungeons. My character was waaaaay overpowered and honestly the game was more like a western AAA "play sloppy, still win" experience in the last 1/3rd for me after Cainhurst optional boss. I sort of prefer the first 1/3rd when I had no VIT and everything killed me in 2 hits and it was a lot of being super careful every step and some trial and error with lots of deaths. Bosses would take a bunch of times learning their patterns and applying strategies, in the 2nd half/last 1/3rd I beat most of the bosses on my first try.
In the end was high lvl.80s/early 90s with VIT at 40, END at 30, STR at 40, SKL at 15-19 with Saw Cleaver +10 and gems getting it to around 400 damage.
I ended up with so many blood chunks I can't believe I was so worried about using them initially. I must have had 20+ blood chunks in my inventory when I beat it and I never upgraded my secondary weapons past +6 because by that point my Saw Cleaver was +9 and doing so much damage I didn't really need any other weapon.
My experience with the bosses was:
Overall really, really liked the game. The atmosphere and storytelling most of all. Felt subtle but fascinating. Gonna read up more on all the lore. Definitely want to find out why there were all these mummies with cages on their heads. Very good game.
In the end was high lvl.80s/early 90s with VIT at 40, END at 30, STR at 40, SKL at 15-19 with Saw Cleaver +10 and gems getting it to around 400 damage.
I ended up with so many blood chunks I can't believe I was so worried about using them initially. I must have had 20+ blood chunks in my inventory when I beat it and I never upgraded my secondary weapons past +6 because by that point my Saw Cleaver was +9 and doing so much damage I didn't really need any other weapon.
My experience with the bosses was:
Celestial Emmisary lol
Ebriates - tough, died a few times then I ate a blood pellet and mashed R1/L1 with my saw cleaver and killed her in like 20 seconds
Micolesh - neat
Wet Nurse - good fight but over in a couple of minutes with a blood pellet
Ghermin - good fight, kind of annoying until I got the hang of the patterns but then good
Best ending boss - dunno, just blood pellet and did R1/L1/R1/L1 combos after dodging to the side when it attacked. There was an annoying bit where I couldn't heal so I just ran until I could heal and then healed back to full HP and finished him off.
Ebriates - tough, died a few times then I ate a blood pellet and mashed R1/L1 with my saw cleaver and killed her in like 20 seconds
Micolesh - neat
Wet Nurse - good fight but over in a couple of minutes with a blood pellet
Ghermin - good fight, kind of annoying until I got the hang of the patterns but then good
Best ending boss - dunno, just blood pellet and did R1/L1/R1/L1 combos after dodging to the side when it attacked. There was an annoying bit where I couldn't heal so I just ran until I could heal and then healed back to full HP and finished him off.
Overall really, really liked the game. The atmosphere and storytelling most of all. Felt subtle but fascinating. Gonna read up more on all the lore. Definitely want to find out why there were all these mummies with cages on their heads. Very good game.
KennyLinder
Member
^I'm in the same layer.
Let me know how you got on with the boss. I stopped after clearing it as I am not 100% well at the moment so getting frequent headaches :-(
Hopefully it's not that dog again lol imagine that!
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
*Every* humanoid enemy, bosses and regular ones, can be parried for visceral attacks.
I still haven't figured out if visceral attack damage is tied to str, skill of both. The only sure thing is that if you make an elemental weapon visceral damage is shit as my fire saw spear is a proof of that.
Also just wanted to say (probably mentioned) that Sinister Dungeons are the cheapest to make in terms of materials while there are no downsides in the loot department, you can even skip spending arcane haze to add a sinister bell and the dungeon will still be fine for looting while being easier than rotted (with those damn witches that spawn the most annoying enemies in the game) or foetid rites so they are the better alternative even if you just search for dungeons and not making them.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
They're tied to your level and whether you have Clawmark runes or not. Your STR, SKL, Bloodtinge, Arcane, or your weapon damage has nothing to do with it.
Which is why on low level runs people often use charged attacks after a parry instead of viscerals, since by doing so, especially with upgraded weapons, they can do much more damage.
I guess I'll have to make my saw spear physical and compare the damage because I'm pretty sure that my fire saw spear visceral attack does abysmal damage when compared to my other physical weapons. Maybe I'm wrong though, I have to check this out to be sure.
KittenMaster
Member
Visceral attacks scale with level, scale with skill, and gain more damage from physical gems.
BaronLundi
Member
Visceral attacks' damage is primarily determined by level but it does scale with skill (also clawmark runes of course, and physical bloodgems).
Other stats and weapon's own damage have no influence.
Edit: beaten
And just platinumed it . Finishing the Chalice dungeons at level 69 is definitely doable(although it requires lots of patience)
And that's it, won't play it for a while(maybe welp people in co-op here and there) but I will wait for the expansion so I don't burn myself out before it hits.
. Finishing the Chalice dungeons at level 69 is definitely doable(although it requires lots of patience)And that's it, won't play it for a while(maybe welp people in co-op here and there) but I will wait for the expansion so I don't burn myself out before it hits.
Windom Earle
Member
Yup, viscerals scale with Skill considerably. I do insane damage with my 50 Skill build and can almost one-shot the cursed Watcher boss with 3xClawmark.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Huh really... strange, because it makes it unfairly disadvantageous for STR focused builds that typically has low SKL.
Windom Earle
Member
It's really bad for arcane builds.
Mainly because strength builds tend to have a 2 handed transformation making it only possible to visceral with a back stab. Strength builds seem to be very OP in PVE situations. Would probably make it near broken if viscerals were also scaling with strength as well.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
P
down
Only need to get all the different endings for the plat!
Heh, I disagree, at least in the case of the kirkhammer.
thumerian queen
Only need to get all the different endings for the plat!
Heh, I disagree, at least in the case of the kirkhammer.
The dog was what wrecked my evening.
Final defiled boss wasnt that tough. Just run around the room and attack his arms when he slams into the ground.
For final phase (when the arms are ripped off) just go behind him and whack his tail. Its bizarre but at the phase, he wont attack you from that position.
Right now, Im stuck at Abhorrent Beast in Lower Loran. Hes the one thing standing between me and the red jelly.
So I managed to put the D
P
down yesterday. He was brutalising me at first but once the penny dropped on how I needed to approach the fight he went down [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdz6LK7JJ88"]pretty easy[/URL]. Pretty chuffed about that 'cause he scared the sh*t out of me initially.
I thought I had the perfect weapon combo for me with bladed whip and long sword but then I got the B
of M
and they're pretty neat so I can't decide. I think I'll take the B of M out on the next Chalice Dungeon to see if want to specialise in them.
This game is too good, man.
arkbeast
aarl
I thought I had the perfect weapon combo for me with bladed whip and long sword but then I got the B
lades
ercy
This game is too good, man.
JadedWriter
Member
Just finished fighting Amygdala...I just feel sorry for the guy. Bolt paper + Threaded Cane + that running R2 attack= 1 massive fucking headache for him. Dude just died the first match. I think I kept clawmark on for the extra visceral damage, god damn. I was level 76, getting through Nightmare Frontier was tougher than the battle itself.
Orochinagis
Member
So I managed to put the DParkbeastdown yesterday. He was brutalising me at first but once the penny dropped on how I needed to approach the fight he went down [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdz6LK7JJ88"]pretty easy[/URL]. Pretty chuffed about that 'cause he scared the sh*t out of me initially.aarl
I thought I had the perfect weapon combo for me with bladed whip and long sword but then I got the Bof Mladesand they're pretty neat so I can't decide. I think I'll take the B of M out on the next Chalice Dungeon to see if want to specialise in them.ercy
This game is too good, man.
BoM have a skill S scaling by far the most stronger Skill weapon in the game, it lacks stagerring in his trick form but compesate that with ridiculous quick attacks and escape moveset
Thats the thing about guns and one handed weapons to fight back against two handed str players.
Lower Isz chalice bruh
KennyLinder
Member
The dog was what wrecked my evening.
Final defiled boss wasnt that tough. Just run around the room and attack his arms when he slams into the ground.
For final phase (when the arms are ripped off) just go behind him and whack his tail. Its bizarre but at the phase, he wont attack you from that position.
Right now, Im stuck at Abhorrent Beast in Lower Loran. Hes the one thing standing between me and the red jelly.
Oh! That sounds like Amygdala? Eek, I struggled with that boss in the story. I'll try your advice though, cheers.
So are you doing all of Loran and Iz?
JadedWriter
Member
Just started another character where I'm going to try to focus on skill and bloodtinge and I forgot how challenging the beginning was. Still downed Cleric Beast in one turn though. Used different strategies on him by head shotting him with the pistol, still a fun fight though.
I summoned Father G when I refought the Cleric Beast. It was awesome having him tear apart something that wasn't me.
Yep to the first question
I'm only doing this to get that sweet golden trophy (you know who). Right now I just beat Ihyll layer 1 and getting wrecked by Layer 2's boss...
So close to that platinum. *whimper*
KennyLinder
Member
I am the same as you, just need the Gold Trophy from the Dungeon. Oh, and to get the best ending which is waiting for me.
Orochinagis
Member
Yeah I'm really liking them actually and I have very high skill so it's all good. They're a bit more up-close-and-personal than I'm used to but the moves are great and it's quite thrilling to have to get so close. Gonna just rotate them all for now.
thanks
D
Deleted member 325805
Unconfirmed Member
I ordered a PS4 today and I have a couple of questions, is Bloodborne as hard as Dark Souls? I found that game to be more frustrating than fun, so hopefully not. And did they ever fix the frame rate? I'm watching a Digital Foundry analyse and the frame rate is all over the place, with drops to the low 20s.
KennyLinder
Member
I think everyone will answer the first question differently based on their individual experiences. For me, I thought Dark Souls wasn't quite as hard, however I was very high level at the end of my first playthrough so I am not sure it's valid. Overall it's probably similarly challenging. Bloodborne is much more about being aggressive in the way you play, whereas Dark Souls was much slower paced combat (the way I played anyway, making use of the shield a lot!).
As for performance, I think the game runs great and keeps to 30fps mass majority of the time. There are frame pacing issues with the game resulting in stuttering, but I honestly think not everyone will notice that. There isn't anything like the slowdown in DkS1.
BB is a fantastic fucking action(rpg) game and an absolute beauty to play. Maybe borrow it off a friend first if you aren't sure?
Do you have PS+?
Yeah, just noticed the deal. It says weekend deal 30 percent off but im sure thats the price it normally is cause checked last week. It's on the EU store.
Accept the mess and try to be as aggressive as possible. Always be around his feet/back.
Terrible fight.
I dont know why but that made laugh for nearly a minute. I must be losing it.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
This is how I did it:
Try to keep a reasonable distance and wait for his swipe attacks, depending of the distance, you want to get close with the first one or wait to the second one, once you are close to him, get a hit or a couple and wait for his ground smash attacks (his usual combo is a couple of swipes (right arm, left arm) and then he smashes the ground with both arms, so after getting those couple of hits, look for his smashing attack and sidestep it (timing might get some time to get right), get another of hits and now you probably want to back off, he usually does 3 attacks when you are close to him:
1) He uses one of his legs and tries to smash you again, this is another good chance to evade and get another couple of hits.
2) If you are on one of his sides or near his back he'll do a backslash attack with the arm of the side you are, if you can read this attack is another good chance to get more hits
3) The most dangerous one: is a very fast smash attack to the ground in which he also does a backstep. Is hard to read and deadly, definetly the reason you don't want to stay under him (or close) too much time.
So that's what I did: Get some distance, lure his swipe attacks, get close, get a couple of hits, wait for the finishing smash attack on his combo (I think he dosn't always finish his combo, so you'll have to read it, is easy to see don't worry), then a sidestep, get a couple of hits get some distance. Rinse and repeat
mid battle a
worm will appear in his head
the worm attacks and his poison, now the head can lounge at you in the middle of his 1-2-3 combo so take extracare
A couple of tips:
- Locking on to him, makes getting close to him a problem, since you'll have to read his body movements to predict his attacks, due to the limited vision. Still I recommend locking into him, since you don't fail the attacks (I know it happened to me with the kirkhammer)
- Don't get cornered, fight will become a nightmare and you'll see how bad the camera of the game can get in certain situations. Is the other reason you want to gain some distance time to time.
My strategy has been thus
- run away and wait for his blood spray attack
- charge and hit the head/arm
- do not lock on so I can dodge roll between his arm/leg if he corners me
Rinse and repeat.
Time consuming as hell but I get him down to 1/2 every time. By then I start running out vials.
- run away and wait for his blood spray attack
- charge and hit the head/arm
- do not lock on so I can dodge roll between his arm/leg if he corners me
Rinse and repeat.
Time consuming as hell but I get him down to 1/2 every time. By then I start running out vials.
astroturfing
Member
ok game, you got me. i'm completely stumped. beat
for two nights i've played and just wandered around areas i've been to a million times and there just isn't anywhere to go.. i must be missing something really obvious and i'll feel like an idiot soon.
someone give me a subtle hint or something. i'm at my wit's end here.
Vicar Amelia, Witch of Hemwick and Darkbeast Paarl... and none of them lead anywhere? wtf.
for two nights i've played and just wandered around areas i've been to a million times and there just isn't anywhere to go.. i must be missing something really obvious and i'll feel like an idiot soon.
someone give me a subtle hint or something. i'm at my wit's end here.
llaannccee
Member
The Password. The Password.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I believe you should try to be more agressive, the more far from him you are, the more advantage he will have. Lock on him at least to evade his swipes, rolling has less iframes and you will get hit.
astroturfing
Member
shit man, i remember going to some place that asked me for a password but i didn't have it. and none of those bosses gave me a password.. or?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Did you
checked the altar after beating Vicar Amelia
If you did, you already have the password.