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Bloodborne: The Old Hunters |OT| Old Hunters. New Tricks, Bells & Whistles.
- Thread starter Robot Pants
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Yeah, it seems like he was the one they gave the most character and attention. It makes sense. Progression-wise, though, it's a little strange.
Newtype-001
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That might be it I still found the bosses challenging.
How overlevelled was I?
Started the dlc (NG+) somewhere between BL130-134 right now on BL 143 with L
aurence
Yeah, its also kinda odd because the levels themselves are also much easier than the starting area would lead you to believe. It takes a lot of work to even open up the first shortcut, but after that the levels are smooth sailing for the most part.
Need to try NG+++ to see what kills in one hit. Even the optional boss doesn't kill me with anything in one hit on NG++.
That isn't supposed to be that much overleveled. I think it was 120 for NG+. I think the health is fine for NG+ since you already have best gems and +10 weapons etc. It is the NG where the health is stupidly high.
Phoenix944
Member
I'll continue to keep this with spoiler tags so as not to spoil people about bits of the DLC they may not know or want to know.I agree with you really. My initial reaction to the boss was "Cleric Beast 2.0, really FromSoft? Jeez..." But then I died to it like 40 times or some shit and yeah, it does have some unique attacks and phases so it sort of redeems it but still leaves a bad taste in my mouth after experiencing the other bosses, most of which are godtier.
Which boss are you asking about? For reference, I had 40 Vit the whole time, and I'm sitting around level 187 or so. I booted up Bloodborne Monday night and realized I was at the beginning of NG+++, so I hauled ass through Cleric Beast, Gascoigne, and Amelia, then went straight to DLC so I'm a bit underleveled for the NG level I think. I'll list some things that one-shotted me with >80% health (Just a bit of variance from having full health cause I wasn't always aware of my health pool when instantly dying lol. I just knew I was very high and wasn't concerned about having to use a vial.)
Ludwig's charge attack
Ludwig jumping and falling on top of me
One of Maria's phase 2/3 power attacks.. Can't remember which, but it happened once to my surprise. (Otherwise her attacks were doing like 40-60% damage per hit, which was already pretty brutal.)
I don't remember any of the Living Failures attacks 1-shotting me.
Orphan's phase 1 leaping slice attack sometimes 1-shotted me from ~80% health or more.
Laurence had a few. His opening atttack, that fist slam on the ground that explodes? That 1-shots if it hits you, even before the explosion. If he jumps and lands on you, that 1-shots you. I'm fairly certain if he grabs you, it does enough to kill you even at full health.
Hope that helps! It's very difficult but sooo rewarding once you defeat them.Oh and I totally agree with you, I wish there was a boss rush mode or a boss select mode like customizing chalice layer bosses or something. That would be AMAZING. :O
Alright, it's almost like that in NG++. Except that Ludwig's charge attack leaves me at ~5% life if I'm full life.
I was talking about Laurence, and I think I'll have to resort to coop for NG+++ and beyond lol But after helping a few players for this boss, using Rakuyo in P1 and Bowblade in P2, I feel like I have more chances to beat him alone in my next playthrough. We'll see
I was talking about Laurence, and I think I'll have to resort to coop for NG+++ and beyond lol But after helping a few players for this boss, using Rakuyo in P1 and Bowblade in P2, I feel like I have more chances to beat him alone in my next playthrough. We'll see
Newtype-001
Member
That makes sense, I'll try the dlc with my second character on ng and see the difference.
Aside from Chalice junk I don't think anything will top the mergo's loft farming area.
As I was mentioning to Phoenix944 in our spoilered conversation, I died to 1hko's to multiple bosses. NG+++ is no joke. I'm sitting around 40 vit, around level 187. For reference, these are what one-shotted me:
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Ludwig's charge attack
Ludwig jumping and falling on top of me
One of Maria's phase 2/3 power attacks.. Can't remember which, but it happened once to my surprise. (Otherwise her attacks were doing like 40-60% damage per hit, which was already pretty brutal.)
Orphan's phase 1 leaping slice attack sometimes 1-shotted me from ~80% health or more.
Laurence had a few. His opening atttack, that fist slam on the ground that explodes? That 1-shots if it hits you, even before the explosion. If he jumps and lands on you, that 1-shots you. I'm fairly certain if he grabs you, it does enough to kill you even at full health.
Ludwig jumping and falling on top of me
One of Maria's phase 2/3 power attacks.. Can't remember which, but it happened once to my surprise. (Otherwise her attacks were doing like 40-60% damage per hit, which was already pretty brutal.)
Orphan's phase 1 leaping slice attack sometimes 1-shotted me from ~80% health or more.
Laurence had a few. His opening atttack, that fist slam on the ground that explodes? That 1-shots if it hits you, even before the explosion. If he jumps and lands on you, that 1-shots you. I'm fairly certain if he grabs you, it does enough to kill you even at full health.
It's pretty unforgiving. I'm curious how much it changes on NG+4 when I eventually make it there.
Damage seems to be lower but I remember it does stagger like Blunderbuss making it better if you want the stagger and higher damage.
Echoes you gain in the DLC is really low. Just equip 3 moon runes and go nuts on Mergos Loft Middle. 70k+ on NG 200k on NG++.
edit.
Need to see it myself to believe it since as I said on NG++ I didn't get OHK at any time with 50Vit.
First boss charge attack
First boss jump attack
I saw that Piercing Rifle does more damage but the scaling is weaker. Problem with Piercing Rifle is that it's not good for counter attack.
Maybe I should upgrade it a little and try it more on some enemies to forge a proper opinion.
Akiyama_AE
Member
Got to fishing hamlet the two big ass dudes are cheap as shit
Yep, that's I'm doing at the moment. The problem is very often when I coop against Ludwig I die for bullshit like this:
Just beat the final (mandatory) boss.
Overall this DLC delivered a much needed kick in the ass that the second half of BB really lacked outside of a few optional bosses, as well as some weapons I'm looking forward to messing with in the future. As an endgame section it reminded me how scary and tense the early hours were, and how good it feels to triumph over a boss after dying over and over. Souls games like having that first half struggle, followed by somewhat of a victory lap in the back end. Having a DLC round that difficulty curve out and ramp the challenge back up is really nice.
It just really cemented in my mind how damn good of a game Bloodborne is. It may have some stripped down aspects in comparison to the Souls games, for better or worse, but man if it isn't sublime in level and encounter design. Fantastic DLC for a fantastic game.
Overall this DLC delivered a much needed kick in the ass that the second half of BB really lacked outside of a few optional bosses, as well as some weapons I'm looking forward to messing with in the future. As an endgame section it reminded me how scary and tense the early hours were, and how good it feels to triumph over a boss after dying over and over. Souls games like having that first half struggle, followed by somewhat of a victory lap in the back end. Having a DLC round that difficulty curve out and ramp the challenge back up is really nice.
It just really cemented in my mind how damn good of a game Bloodborne is. It may have some stripped down aspects in comparison to the Souls games, for better or worse, but man if it isn't sublime in level and encounter design. Fantastic DLC for a fantastic game.
Stratosphere
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Well fuck, I was in the middle of fighting the gatling hunter, and he got stuck in some geometry and glitched out of the map! I guess he eventually died, because I got his gun a short time later. Sort of anti-climactic though. I'm curious, is he tough?
So far the beast hunter and those executioners are kicking my ass. I can't imagine what lies ahead....
So far the beast hunter and those executioners are kicking my ass. I can't imagine what lies ahead....
Akiyama_AE
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Can anyone link me to a video showing the location of the Rukuyo weapon?
Newtype-001
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Akiyama_AE
Member
Man I killed one but the second one whooped my ass lol
He's pretty tough, yeah. I eventually tried different weapons and found the LHB small form was best, and I just stunlocked him until I ran out of stamina, then backed off, then repeat. Also parrying with gunshots helps. He heals himself which pissed me off a number of times.
There's a place you forgot to explore, it is rather large and has a menacing fatty in front of it.
FataIChoice
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I cooperated in a fight against the
Failed Experiments,
Newtype-001
Member
Wait until you get the 2nd one to jump down, use the shaman blade and watch them Duke it out like
Then finish off the last one
Did you go to the grand cathedral where
Laurence
Stratosphere
Member
Damn, sounds challenging. And yeah, I've found the LHB small form to be best for most hunters to counter their speed and aggression. Do you know if he respawns?
Wait until you get the 2nd one to jump down, use the shaman blade and watch them Duke it out like
Then finish off the last one
Did you go to the grand cathedral whereis and get what was on his hand?Laurence
nope thats the thing that i forgot
Akiyama_AE
Member
Will do when I get homeWait until you get the 2nd one to jump down, use the shaman blade and watch them Duke it out like
Then finish off the last one
Did you go to the grand cathedral whereis and get what was on his hand?Laurence
Does anyone know how to fix the 'game data still installing can't load save' error? I tried deleting and reinstalling it and waiting for the patch to download before booting it, but it still does it. Also tried starting new game and getting to the first bonfire.
Is it actually installing in the background or something or is it a bug?
Is it actually installing in the background or something or is it a bug?
Based on other people's experience,it is likely to be the former.
j0hnny_385
Member
Started the expansion yesterday on NG+.
NG+ completely mopped up before starting the expansion.
lvl 186 platinum hunter.
It's gorgeous. Clever way of asset reuse (basically, the nightmare is a mashup of various locations from original game).
I'm a bit overpowered, I think, but I found some good challenge along the way.
So far managed to kill
. Now I'm fighting that
Haven't upgraded any new weapons yet? Any recommendations?
Currently rocking my Tonitrus +10, Threaded Cane +10, Blades of Mercy +10 and Burial Blade +10.
NG+ completely mopped up before starting the expansion.
lvl 186 platinum hunter.
It's gorgeous. Clever way of asset reuse (basically, the nightmare is a mashup of various locations from original game).
I'm a bit overpowered, I think, but I found some good challenge along the way.
So far managed to kill
Ludwig
black/white duo.
Haven't upgraded any new weapons yet? Any recommendations?
Currently rocking my Tonitrus +10, Threaded Cane +10, Blades of Mercy +10 and Burial Blade +10.
What the best way to fix it? If I leave it on the title screen?
gift of 100 gab
Member
Jesus,
feels absolutely impossible. People say to hug him close but he's flailing and jumping all over the place and I can get any bearings on him. Seems to have insane tracking in the air as well, or at least I haven't figured out how to not get completely annihilated by it. Any particular strategies I need to know? NG+4 lvl 183 and I can't find a single one to summon even though that was never a problem prior to this part. At least I figured out how to get him to 2nd phase without losing too many vials... But damn, this is testing my patience and my vial stock
OoK's second form
Akiyama_AE
Member
Can anyone help with the 2 giants in the well in the fishing hamlet?
Reyben
Member
I was in the same situation yesterday, except i'm in ng+5 so it's even more bullshit...
During phase 1 i guess you just wait for him to jump over you and backstab him with R2, right?
In phase 2 i managed to riposte him several times but everytime i walked up to him the game wouldn't let me use a visceral attack for some reason so i decided to just summon someone and be done with it.
Use shaman blade on the first as soon as the second one appears.
Akiyama_AE
Member
Its too hard to do on NG+4.
lvl100+ is recommended. What I would recommend is to get Vit to 30-50 range and damage stats to 50. You pretty much need a +10 weapon with the +18% gems you get from Mensis.
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Deleted member 30609
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I'm around 130 and it feels about right here. The first could comfortably hand my ass to me in a few shots, but I there was still potential to succeed.
drotahorror
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Man, 1 hit from killing OoK. Anyone mind co-oping with me? password GAF