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Bloodborne: The Old Hunters |OT| Old Hunters. New Tricks, Bells & Whistles.
- Thread starter Robot Pants
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Blood attack only applies to transform mode of the Chikage but since the blood damage is ~125 higher than it's physical (S scaling) that helps. Also rapid poison works on most bosses (like bleed in Dark Souls 1).
The Rakuyo version that
Lady Maria
Pure skill builds are kind of limited to Rakuyo and Church Pick. Both perfectly usable, though. I was using the Bow Blade on my last few cursed/fetid/rotten Amy kills as a back-up for Burial Blade since charged R2 damage is only slightly below a +10 bone marrow ash-ed Evelyn. Just to save me from restocking the ash after every run. You have to decide if that is worth the 16 chunks and one rock.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Which arguably, is what you should aim, if you want to use a chikage.
As long you keep making chalices that contains blood rocks? Until you're tired of it.
Phoenix944
Member
How many blood rock can we get from chalice in 1 NG?
Still haven't beaten it yet. The first few bosses weren't bad
, but those goddamn
in that goddamn
took like 8 tries. Still pretty salty and heated, but I kind of loved it. Time to see if it is worth swapping +10 blades of mercy for the
.
4/1/2 attempts respectively
murlocs
well
Rakuyo
AlphaDragoon
Member
The Rakuyo version thatis using would have been much more interesting. Maybe even have it be a blood weapon or a fire weapon depending on gems. But they didn't go for something that interesting hereLady Maria
The Rakuyo is interesting because it's NOT a blood weapon with an HP drain bullshit gimmick. So sick of every katana that's special in From games being based around the "cursed Muramasa swords" thing.
I think it's great and gladly gave up on the Chikage for it, even though I did really like the draw slash functions of Chikage.
Gormless Noodle
Member
Don't agree with that at all. For ranged attacks, it's the best weapon out there. It changes the game entirely at times. Essentially you're safe to just endlessly kite nearly any boss save for some with some insane gap closers. But damage wise, Evelyn doesn't stand up to it even if you take bone marrow ash into consideration, nor does something like the canon due to its huge bullet consumption. Each standard shot does more damage than any other one bullet type ranged weapon, each charged shot isn't far removed from a BMA empowered Evelyn, but you have to keep into account that you only get 10 BMA shots on any gun, whereas with the bowblade you can just keep firing as long as you have bullets/vials.
Although I would say it's a supplementary weapon alongside a good close ranged weapon, but regardless, it can be a real game changer imo.
You get 1 from each different "setting" (Pthumeru, Loran, Isz) only once. Advancing to the next NG doesn't reset that. You can "farm" them in Depth 5 dungeons. I get one every 4-6 Amy kills in R/F/C Isz dungeons. No ideaif item discovery helps here or not.
Phoenix944
Member
Hmm I don't know. I did the same chalice twice to loot the blood rock in a chest, but it was replace by a great one's wisdom.
Alright, thanks
TheBlackMarvel
Member
Yeah... Circling L
just meant he left me trapped in a circle of lava... then did his stompy hands of doom when I really had nowhere to go.
Fuck.
Phase.
Two.
aurence
Fuck.
Phase.
Two.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Sorry, let me rephrase that. You can get only one on chests, but (last layer) bosses in some created dungeons can drop them.
Yup. That is exactly how I've been using it lately. As soon as I am done with the rune weapons I will push the "Lost Bow Blade" I got to +10. It has a circle gem slot so you can get a 33.3% blood damage gem in there. Just need to farm 2 out-of-shape bloodtinge gems. This will be pain.
3x 27.2% physical gems give the normal Bow Blade a x2.05 boost in blood damage.
3x 31% - 33% blood damage gems add a x2.25 - x2.35 boost so it is probably worth testing...potentially pushing it above 700AR
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
For STR builds, is Whirligig superior to Kirk? What about the Amy arm? I really enjoy the moveset for Kirk as an all-purpose weapon, as both the longsword and hammer modes are viable. However, the "club" for Whirli seems underpowered and fairly bland.
Whirligig seems like a better "burst" weapon where you have the potential to abuse large openings for more damage. Kirk -- however -- can create those openings with its stagger and smash. They both seem pretty viable depending on the circumstance, despite everyone singing praises for the whirli
(fwiw Whirli and Kirk were both +9 as I compared them; stealhy "what should I +10?" post)
Whirligig seems like a better "burst" weapon where you have the potential to abuse large openings for more damage. Kirk -- however -- can create those openings with its stagger and smash. They both seem pretty viable depending on the circumstance, despite everyone singing praises for the whirli
(fwiw Whirli and Kirk were both +9 as I compared them; stealhy "what should I +10?" post)
Half of my deaths in that fight were being corned into a wall and then immediate death by camera. Great fight, but that camera was a mess at times for me.
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
Member
How did I not know that? Oh well, thanks for that info.
robotzombie
Member
is it the case that even if I messed up the Eileen quest, she'll show up after Rom so that I can get the blades of mercy from her?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Consider that I meant chalices with bosses that drop them. Which can be quite a pain in the ass.
So, I read somewhere, can't recall where, that the frenzy brains near the final DLC boss are supposedly excellent sources for some of the best gems in the game.
Is this true, does anyone have any experience farming them? If yes, what are the drop rates? Growing bored of Fallout 4 at the moment and might spend some time with Bloodborne again.
Is this true, does anyone have any experience farming them? If yes, what are the drop rates? Growing bored of Fallout 4 at the moment and might spend some time with Bloodborne again.
Gormless Noodle
Member
Yeah, at the very least she always drops the badge no matter when she gets killed.
HORRORSHØW
Member
Phoenix944
Member
^Seconding this question. I've gotten some high level cursed gems from them, but do people honestly sport cursed weapons?
robotzombie
Member
Without even trying to farm them, I very quickly and easily got 3 blood gems that had around 22% ATK and 2.8~3% stamina increase
The stamina increase is literally no penalty at all, I can't even see a difference with three of them stacked, and they boosted my damage immensely
Good to know, thanks. Yeah, stamina-increasing gems barely make a dent, so rooting I get some of those.
HORRORSHØW
Member
they don't drop the best gems, but probably second-tier gems. worth it if you don't feel like farming the dungeons
Gormless Noodle
Member
Don't most? I mean, isn't that the only way to get those 27,something % damage bonuses? At least cursed ones are the only ones I've seen that do that so far, I might be wrong. But I always use them at least.
Grimløck;187317822 said:
Interesting. I'll go get another rock and upgrade the Lost BB to +10 and try it with the mix of physical and the one BLT gem. Although stacking gems should always give better results than splitting.
33% gems are rank 19 and can only be found on layer bosses (rare drop). I got one with 3.3% stamina increase malus in my Evelyn
piccio_ssl
Member
HORRORSHØW
Member
Damnit, it sure looked sexy when I saw it being wielded. Well you saved me a lot of blood minerals.
I made a video showing how to farm them very quickly. They drop a lot of +20.5% phys attack gems, with a variety of downsides.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KV6KxXpMcGg
If you don't have enough frenzy resist, you can add a sedative into this loop to avoid the frenzy; they drop enough echoes to buy sedatives to make the loop endless.
TheBlackMarvel
Member
It really feels like a RNG fight rather than a skill based one.
Finished.
Beat
on my fifth attempt, which wasn't too bad. It wasn't as difficult as I was lead to believe, although I had to use 18 vials in its second form as I just swung my weapon wildly and hoped for the best. All tactics went out the window at that point.
Beat
Orphan of Kos
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
Member
Yeah, I figured as much. If I really need one I'll do this. I'll have at least 2 more though so I may not have to head down this path.
AlphaDragoon
Member
Uh what? Yeah it is. Weapon is amazing.
Try it yourself rather than go by an opinion. I think it slaps the hell out of the BoM. So I would make your own judgement.
King Beyond the wall
Member
Getting spanked by ook ... Need some tips to cheese this mother!
Here's what worked for me in phase 2: Keep your distance and keep dodging back to avoid the swipes. The arena is shaped like a rectangle, so make him chase you up one edge, and then turn to the other edge and keep going around. The only time you can safely attack is when he decides to spew his lava breath, and that's when you should quickly strafe/dodge over to his right (your left) and unleash a single charged R2 attack. Just keep that up, and you should be able to take him down with minimal risk.
Oh, and try to equip some HP runes so he can't one shot you, that way you're allowed to make some mistakes while keeping your distance. Just don't get greedy and stick to the plan.
I don't think there's a legit way to cheese him, but he's very susceptible to parries (in both forms) so you can try learning the timing for those.
Spine_Ripper
Member
Just beat the 3rd boss last night(first try!). How much content is left? I'm loving the dlc and hate the thought that it might be a few years til a sequel with more fresh content
unity of the void
Member
I agree you should just try it! I switched to it from the BoM +10 and I love it - it can also use fire/bolt/phantasm enhancements.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I think people should look at weapons not as "how much dmg they can do" but rather "how fun they are". As much as I love my chikake, rakuyo is several times more fun to use.
Newtype-001
Member
Just beat the 3rd boss last night(first try!). How much content is left? I'm loving the dlc and hate the thought that it might be a few years til a sequel with more fresh content
1 whole new area
1 mandatory boss and 1 optional
Some npc stuff
Weapons obviously aswell
1 mandatory boss and 1 optional
Some npc stuff
Weapons obviously aswell
A Sentient Keyboard
Member
Halp. Alternatively, should I try to learn how to chalice dungeon and get some good blood gems? I need to wrap my head around them eventually because I want the uncanny version of the B
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Kwansu Dudes
Member
The pizza cutter hands down. S scaling with strength, D in skill and B in arcane. Its L2 is so great against the dlc bosses
You should be fine, honestly. Just parry the Hunters and take it slow. I'm was in NG+ at 140 and had a hard time too. I would recommend you just upgraded your Chikage to at least 9 as you can farm Chunks and you'll get a decent amount in the DLC.
You can also farm gems from the Winter Lantern frenzy beasts in the DLC. There's a spot nearby a lantern where two are. Chalice Dungeons are pretty long and boring if you explore everywhere.