Arjen
Member
That's actually something I like, going deeper in the existing lore instead of adding a new story. I mean, the Ludwig fight wouldn't have been so cool if it was a new random character, same with Artorias.
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That's actually something I like, going deeper in the existing lore instead of adding a new story. I mean, the Ludwig fight wouldn't have been so cool if it was a new random character, same with Artorias.
Imru al-Qays
Banned
Yeah. I-frames are tied to adaptability, and roll distance is tied to equip burden, which is tied to vitality.
In DS1 all quick rolls are the same. In DS2, on the other hand, if you're "quick rolling" at 49% equip burden you won't roll as far as at 20% equip burden, so raising vitality has the effect of increasing your roll distance.
It's all very messy.
GiantBreadbug
Member
FINALLY
I finally beat
after a week of tears. Doing it with a skull build and my trusty cane was hard but I FUCKIN did it. Got through the Research Hall, it was amazing. Beat both the
and loved it all.
The hamlet is amazing, but God fucking dammit the shark asshole near the second lamp killed
through the wall 
I was so upset. Does he come up again? I wanted to see what happened with him
I'm disappointed that the bow blade has such a bad melee moveset. I feel like L2 could have been arrows (charge by holding or just tap) and R1 and R2 could have been some melee attacks.
The caves under the hamlet area are terrifying. Heard a winter lantern and noped on out. I'm sure I'm about to fight a boss so whoopee, here goes nothing.
I finally beat
Ludwig
Living Failures and Maria
The hamlet is amazing, but God fucking dammit the shark asshole near the second lamp killed
Simon
I was so upset. Does he come up again? I wanted to see what happened with him I'm disappointed that the bow blade has such a bad melee moveset. I feel like L2 could have been arrows (charge by holding or just tap) and R1 and R2 could have been some melee attacks.
The caves under the hamlet area are terrifying. Heard a winter lantern and noped on out. I'm sure I'm about to fight a boss so whoopee, here goes nothing.
I would really like that especially in DaS2. I don't remember DaS1 or DeS having too much alteration on distance aside from the clear tresholds of equip load.
this is insane lol
Any tips for the giant sharks? I've tried learning to parry them but it's really hard to get the timing right. They have huge health in NG+ and visceral attacks seem to be the only thing that really puts the hurt on them. Any particular weapons or items that are good against them?
Run Speed being related to Roll Type was brutal. It is so, so subtle, but it makes all the difference against the Red Dragon over the bridge in DaS1.
Look! The Pie!
Member
So I've beaten
. Have I finished the DLC? There was a very short cutscene after my second-to-last boss, which makes me think I should have fought it last, but it doesn't seem like I have anywhere else to explore.
Ludwig, Living Failures, Lady Maria, Orphan of Kos, and finally Laurence
GIANKRATOS
Member
Fancy Clown
Member
Nah you beat it unless you want to get all the weapons.
I fucked up. Is there a way to get to the rafters after turning the crank in the reserch lab?
Giant dad casul bird fell on me, I shat, then fell off the ledge.
Anyone?
Kwansu Dudes
Member
Anyone?
Go up the giant stairs and there's a ladder you can climb and another that'll take you to the top.
Anyone?
Behind the guy with the gatling gun, there's a balcony walkway to the other side. That is what I missed.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Holy. shit.
Look! The Pie!
Member
Sweet, I actually think I've just got the last one
from the two assholes in the well
All in all, super impressed with the DLC. I'm going to take some time to reflect on it, but right now I think I loved it even more than Artorias of the Abyss and Crown of the Ivory King. The new areas were incredibly atmospheric, interesting and fun to explore, I love the new weapons (Whirligig Saw for the win), and the bosses were mostly great (even though I somehow beat
Laurence and OoK on my first try, both of them took me right down to the wire)
Right, back to the Chalice Dungeons (which I'm actually enjoying this time around)!
Can't seem to find this after turning the gears and changing the staircase
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Grimløck;187581348 said:
Alright. I'll try it.
Blueblood garbage in pvp, lmao. Morrigan pls.
Kwansu Dudes
Member
IIRC, you need to take to shortcut elevator up and then the 2nd elevator with the 3 wheelchair men. There should be the giant staircase there where you can run to the top and climb a ladder (there'll be one of those patients with a weapon)
Some guy beat OoK NG+6 at level 4
EvilKatarn
Member
Likely my favorite piece of music from the entire series
that doesn't feature Emi Evans
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Fight them with lock on off. Also, partial embrias spell will crumple them from behind for easy visceral.
Soooooo....
I purchased the GOTY Edition when it launched and I've been playing for a few hours every day since I got it.
I've only played a portion of Demon's Souls (I'm stuck at the flame lurker (?) boss, though I intend to finish the game sometime in the future).
So far, I'm loving it. I very much prefer the quicker pace of the combat compared to DeS, love the regain system. Love the parry system with the gun. Level design is great, Central Yharnam is just awesome with all the different passages and shortcuts.
I started with the saw cleaver and now I purchased Ludwig's Holy Blade. I switch between them whenever I feel like it. Both actually feel great to use.
I've killed 4 bosses (C
B
, F
G
, B
B
and V
A
) (do I still need to spoiler main game bosses?). None of the bosses have really given me trouble so far. I've met the boss in Hemwick, though I quickly ported out with a hunter mark, because I was carrying 50k echoes.
My least favourite enemy are those dudes in black clothes that carry around sacks (they take you to Yahar'gul). They hit hard as fuck and have a strange moveset I'm not really comfortable with. I also hate the ridiculously oversized enemies with axes/morning stars shortly before V
A
.
Also, fuck those snake....things in the woods.
Nearly shit my pants in Old Yharnam when that beast jumped out of the wooden door.
I purchased the GOTY Edition when it launched and I've been playing for a few hours every day since I got it.
I've only played a portion of Demon's Souls (I'm stuck at the flame lurker (?) boss, though I intend to finish the game sometime in the future).
So far, I'm loving it. I very much prefer the quicker pace of the combat compared to DeS, love the regain system. Love the parry system with the gun. Level design is great, Central Yharnam is just awesome with all the different passages and shortcuts.
I started with the saw cleaver and now I purchased Ludwig's Holy Blade. I switch between them whenever I feel like it. Both actually feel great to use.
I've killed 4 bosses (C
leric
east
ather
ascoigne
lood-starved
east
icar
melia
My least favourite enemy are those dudes in black clothes that carry around sacks (they take you to Yahar'gul). They hit hard as fuck and have a strange moveset I'm not really comfortable with. I also hate the ridiculously oversized enemies with axes/morning stars shortly before V
icar
melia
Also, fuck those snake....things in the woods.
Nearly shit my pants in Old Yharnam when that beast jumped out of the wooden door.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Because DS2 is clearly the weakest of the bunch...by far. Such a by the numbers vacuous uneventful borefest at times. Its like the Devil May Cry 2 of the SoulBorn franchise. Also, it's not strange for people to talk about the most recent Souls game that came before bloodborne.
Parry their right hand punch; it has a slow wind-up that's easily punished, and get behind them as they buff and back stab them. They hit hard but they're easily trivialized.
Jesus Christ no ways is Dark Souls 2 comparable to DMC2.
Yeah it's the weakest of the Souls but not to the point where the other Souls games are 9-10 tier games where as DS2 is 2/10 level.
Kwansu Dudes
Member
My god, beast blood pellet + paper = Pizzabonanza
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Wut, u don liek damage, breh?
Pop pill > Land hits > Damage goes up while defense goes down.
Melkezadek
Member
This plus beast mode makes this feel like a totally different game. I love it.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Didn't you hear? BB has no build variety....
TheBlackMarvel
Member
People shitting on Dark Souls 2 is fucking tiring at this point.
Good luck with the rest of the game! You should really get on the Dark Souls bandwagon once you're done with this and Demon's Souls!
Good luck with the rest of the game! You should really get on the Dark Souls bandwagon once you're done with this and Demon's Souls!
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
It really is. No BBS user ever won a PvP tourney, and at high level (SL ~120) few people use it because it's so easy to counter. Noobs think it's so good because it hits hard with LW on and technically has high DPS, but the straight sword moveset, while fun as hell, is not very effective and easy to avoid, and all you gotta do is play defensively for 60 secs and then the BBS becomes a puny useless stick.
Kwansu Dudes
Member
I'm convinced Henriet is a troll. Don't ever summon him/her. Second time I've seen him her glitched
I won't listen to this bashing of my swordfu any longer!!
Have you ever summoned "Queen Killer?" Have only seen them in chalices so far, but pretty funny setup that Old Hunter has.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
When did you jump into Demons' Souls? Just asking because I distinctly remember BBS being one of the very first "broken weapons" that people rushed to max out because of how well it performed both in PvE and PvP.
Over time, sure, people learned to counter it better and patches came out and other weapons became more prolific, but for the first month or two of the game's life (if not a bit longer) BBS was definitely a weapon to be feared.
WTF.... I am upgrading this immediately!
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Eh? Demon's Souls didn't get many balancing patches at all.
I jumped into Demon's PvP in like January or February 2010, by the way (and played tons of PvP for far too long xD). BBS was all the rage for a while, hell I made a BBS build too, and quickly realized it was overrated. I mean one time you'll get caught in a buffed 2h stunlocked and go "whoaaaa this thing is OP". Then you realize you can do the toggle-escape, and that when the buff is waited out the BBS completely sucks, and that noobs think that its high damage output per hit makes it good when it fact it's extremely unlikely that every hit of the combo will connect (I dare say it's unlikely any hit will connect, its hitbox and phantom range is not that good, especially the 2h version).
It's actually a shame because the straight sword moveset is really fun in Demon's Souls, it's probably one of my favourite weapons for PvP. But it's objectively worse (as in, less efficient and competitive) than stuff like dual kats, the estoc, the claymore (or hell NR), gaxe, and DBS. PvP tourney winners inevitably used kats, estoc, the DBS or NR, and never the BBS.
KharmaPolice
Member
Apparently NG+6 is the last time the difficulty increases.
Primethius
Banned
Finally managed to hit a decent level so that the first area of the DLC wasn't kicking my ass.
Then I got to the first boss.
OH BOY!
Then I got to the first boss.
OH BOY!
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
I guess I should've used a comma:
people learned to counter it better,
patches came out,
and other weapons became more prolific
So, yeah. When the game first got rolling, it was widely used by more than "noobs [who] think that its high damage output per hit makes it good". Not saying it's still OP, but it wasn't always (er, it has never really been) "trash-tier unless you make an extremely specific build for it".
However, if you weren't able to experience that period of time due to jumping into the game later, that's fine. Just thought it was odd hearing someone say it was a bad/limited weapon. Similarly, if someone was like "Lightning Great Axe +5 was shit in Dark Souls" I'd be like WAT?!
What level?
Kwansu Dudes
Member
plasticpassion
Member
Can someone help me with OoK? NG+, SL 182. No password. Standing outside of door now.
Edit: pretty please??? I've spent hours on this fucker. I got him to 15% - that last phase though...
Edit: pretty please??? I've spent hours on this fucker. I got him to 15% - that last phase though...