I want to always solo everything first time through. After that I start summoning like crazy and start helping all the time. It is really great mechanic and I really like doing coop except when the host does clearly stupid stuff but that is rare. Also I don't think anyone should feel ashamed for using coop to get through areas since it is mechanic put there by the developers and it is meant for you to use. If you just stay back and don't do anything during bossfights etc then you should be ashamed since coop isn't there for others to beat a thing for you but to help you.
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Bloodborne: The Old Hunters |OT| Old Hunters. New Tricks, Bells & Whistles.
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I want to always solo everything first time through. After that I start summoning like crazy and start helping all the time. It is really great mechanic and I really like doing coop except when the host does clearly stupid stuff but that is rare. Also I don't think anyone should feel ashamed for using coop to get through areas since it is mechanic put there by the developers and it is meant for you to use. If you just stay back and don't do anything during bossfights etc then you should be ashamed since coop isn't there for others to beat a thing for you but to help you.
Only get the regular one if you're not sure whether or not you'll like the game. If you played other Souls games and enjoy them get the full package - the DLC is great and probably won't be on sale for a while.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I'm working on a HMS build and I'm looking to hit 80 with it in NG. I'll have to spread out a lot of points between Str, Arc, and Skl which leaves less for Vit and End than I'd normally have. That said, would you guys rather have a 30/30 Vit/End split or 35/25? I'm leaning towards the latter.
I usually stop at 30/20 with Vit/End. Considering how the HMS scales I would recommend to stop at that too.
Why 80 though? The low end of the pvp meta is 98.
As for your question, I think stopping at 20 end with 35% stamina runes is the best choice.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
20 seems pretty low but I might give it a shot. 30 Vit will be brutal for me on the DLC bosses though, haha.
I don't care about PvP, just thinking about running the DLC again and possibly NG+. 80 is a reasonable level to hit playing through the entire main game and some of the DLC.
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
Member
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After that I need to collect all of the weapons. Are there any I can't get because of where I'm at story wise?
Orphan of Kos. Last boss left is Laurence. His second phase is rough.
After that I need to collect all of the weapons. Are there any I can't get because of where I'm at story wise?
darkslayer101
Member
what is a good rakuyo build?
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Just keep pumping skill and avoid the other weapon stats. Your best bet for NG prior to Rakuyo is probably Blades of Mercy.
A pure skill build was what I used for the DLC and I ended with Rakuyo as my favorite weapon. It's a blast to use.
I would go 35/25, although I think a level 80 cap is simply too low for a HMS build.
I have 25 END (with Chalice stamina rune) and I barely do 5 swings with the transformed sword (4 if I use a gem with stamina cost), and 2 L2 or R2 attacks.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I'm not going to stop at 80, it's just kind of where I expect to be by the time I get the HMS.
20 End is low for sure but to be honest you can't get that many hits before having to dodge so as long as you are careful with stamina usage it should be enough and you can always get stamina up with runes. I thought 30 Vit was decent for DLC on NG. Nothing can't kill in one hit or one combo.
TheBlackMarvel
Member
Nope, they should all be available.
Pump skill, it's the only thing it scales with.
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
Member
Excellent. Thanks.
Ah, allright, then yeah I'll go 35/25.
I agree, with fast weapons 20 with 1 rune is more than enough. Only the heaviest one would require a little more. I usually try to get enough stamina to do or 5 swings at mst. No point on more because you're not going to be able to slash against a boss that many hits solo, and rolls/quicksteps takes almost no stamina.
Nameless
Member
Not disparaging anyone who uses co-op by any means, but I haven't rung my beckoning bell once. Granted, only Father G, Kos, and Laurence took more than a few tries but part of the fun of Bloodborne for me is not just the furious intensity of its boss fights, but the the sorta 'puzzler' aspect to a lot of them. In any other game my 15th, 16th, 17th shot at a boss would likely have me frustrated to no end, but even amid getting rekkkkkt by Laurence I was still having a blast figuring him out. Finally cracking that cookie, executing my tactics, and taking him down was one of the most exhilarating and satisfying gaming moments I've had in YEARS, but it certainly wouldn't have had the same impact for me with two other hunters hacking away at him.
Again, not co-op shaming, I'll probably delve into that side of the game more with post NG+ runs.
Consider also pumping points into endurance in addition to skill. Some of the moves can take a heavy toll on stamina.
I've got a skill build and use the rakuyo now and then. It's my secondary to the Beasthunter's Saif, probably the most underrated weapon in the game.
PRjumpman124
Member
Is OoK still parriable in its second phase? Either the timing is way harder or I shouldn't bother.
Red Liquorice
Member
SkylineRKR
Member
I love that fight. Its different from the rest and reminiscent of Fool's Idol.
For the final phase I mostly stood quite a bit away, out of AoE range. Running in when I felt it was safe to do so, and deliver 2 slashes. I think a good way is V attack runes, as the melee is incredibly easy to parry (just stay outside of range a bit, to not get bound).
Started a new character to mess around with an arcane focussed build. 20str/25 arcane so far. I want to try HMS and Kos parasite. Just cleared out the forbidden woods, so far using Tonitrus and LHB with a fire blood gemstone.
Picked up the Augur of Ebrietas and wow, thing is a game changer. Kind of insane damage for what it is, plus it triggers visceral attacks on parry and BS? Yep fuck guns!
Picked up the Augur of Ebrietas and wow, thing is a game changer. Kind of insane damage for what it is, plus it triggers visceral attacks on parry and BS? Yep fuck guns!
Orochinagis
Member
Skill at least to 45-50, focus on Vit and Stamina first
I heard you can when he still does his heavy attack and when it jump high you can go behind him.
Depends how much you like Souls games, I recommend you to get the Goty edition anyway
Akiyama_AE
Member
everyone I invade just quits or runs to boss door lol why so afraid
SkylineRKR
Member
Yes, killed Yharnam! Now I've finally completed everything in the main game on my own and got my Platinum trophy.
Let's see if I can do the DLC on my own as wellJudging from some of the replies here... it will be hard.
I beat the first boss on NG+, and he was hard but easier than defiled and the first 2 Ihyll bosses.
Arjen
Member
Yes you can definitely parry him him in the second phase.
Weltall Zero
Member
If you killed Amelia at level 15 you probably have a better shot at it than most (than me, at least
) but I can't imagine it being a walk in the park. It's pretty cool, among my favorite new weapons.
Realised I skipped a few fights since I edited them after the Rom video, so I'm catching up now - episode 15, Pimmsy vs Yurie, the Last Scholar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h0ntZIMqOc
I find she's quite a tough hunter to fight at this stage - Iosefka is slightly harder because of the enclosed room whereas the bottom floor of the college has enough space to dodge around more.
What's the reason for Yurie being here again? She's not an apprentice of Master Willem as one blocks the entrance to the Forbidden Woods (and is dead), and the other drops the Graveguard set (and is also dead).
She must be a member of the Choir like Iosefka was. Was she trying to find Master Willem himself?
I find she's quite a tough hunter to fight at this stage - Iosefka is slightly harder because of the enclosed room whereas the bottom floor of the college has enough space to dodge around more.
What's the reason for Yurie being here again? She's not an apprentice of Master Willem as one blocks the entrance to the Forbidden Woods (and is dead), and the other drops the Graveguard set (and is also dead).
She must be a member of the Choir like Iosefka was. Was she trying to find Master Willem himself?
Melkezadek
Member
It was actually the only way I beat the two hunters at the surgery alter. I use it for my madman setup now.
NorthernIX
Member
Definitely agree with this. Did the DLC on NG+ also, and I thought the normal mobs were about the same difficulty as the mobs in the base game and the only two bosses I thought were harder were L
udwig
rphan of Kos
aurence
Akiyama_AE
Member
So decided to play with others today and the rape horse decides to do this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGWBVLxZPzQ SPOILERS TO THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN THE RAPE HORSE
They're all available. One specific weapon could prove a bit harder to get now that you've killed all the bosses and can't summon anyone anymore though. Good luck with the
Well of Death
And I mean that literally.
If you killed Amelia at level 15 you probably have a better shot at it than most (than me, at least
Amelia was surprisingly easy at lvl15 with +2 Saw Cleaver. Luckily she didn't even use healing.
edit. Oh boy +9 weapon before SoY. This is gonna be fun.
Akiyama_AE
Member
They're all available. One specific weapon could prove a bit harder to get now that you've killed all the bosses and can't summon anyone anymore though. Good luck with the.Well of Death
And I mean that literally.
lol
Hahaha! That went well. Also that move definitely isn't the one that should come first.
Oh God, the well of death is real.
Yeah. I've never seen him do any variation of his opening move, and I died a lot against him.so strange.
Yeah. I've never seen him do any variation of his opening move, and I died a lot against him.so strange.
Orochinagis
Member
Maybe the IA noticed how close the host was with someone , The IA will try always to focus the Host in coop thats why you never as a helper get close to the host at all and the host never try to get behing or run towards the helper
He can be parried
Have fun with that. Use Shaman Bone if you have too much trouble.
Just tried him couple of times again on low levels and yeah the first few seconds go always the same. Dodge under lunge attack, hit him couple of times and then he moves around the fog door.
Staying close to him makes him miss attacks. Also you can get backstab when he transforms if you time it right and from the lightning attack. Timing on those is pretty strict though.
Akiyama_AE
Member
I'm level 99 or so and I'm in NG+. Just started it. Any tips for NG+ and how to structure my build moving forward? The only stat I remember is my strength, which is around 37... I was using the weapon that is that katana that transitions to the super big sword. Not super helpful, I know.
d00d3n
Member
Help me with this, gaf.
I was mercilessly bullied by L
F
for at least ten attempts on NG+ (level 108). I finally won the battle with a great deal of luck by going really slow for the first part, and rushing the second part with fire paper to escape RNG death from the meteors.
Directly after my win I continue exploring and get into a second boss battle just minutes after the one I just fought. To my surprise, I riposte M
to death as if it was nothing. I never win bosses on my first attempt (except the fake boss in Hemwick I guess), but this one was easy prey.
Did I just get really lucky with my ripostes or is M
a really simple boss? The only thing I am quite sure of is that I am not very good at the game ...
I was mercilessly bullied by L
iving
ailures
Directly after my win I continue exploring and get into a second boss battle just minutes after the one I just fought. To my surprise, I riposte M
aria
Did I just get really lucky with my ripostes or is M
aria
I guess for most people, they're playing the DLC on NG+? Is there a recommended level to start it? I saved right before any of the ending phases for the regular game, wondering if I should just venture into NG+ now, or just reload and finish the DLC on the old save. I think I'm level 85 now? I want to properly start NG+ a bit leveled up, but I swear this go around I spent more money on Blood vials than anything else (a couple levels were spent!)
Meh,
Maria
es
Level 85 may be a little rough for the DLC. I would say atleast reach 100. That, or atleast get lots of VIT (almost 50) and good Depth 5 Chalice gems.
I think the PS blog recommended 110 for NG+ DLC.
d00d3n
Member
Meh,wasn't quite a pushover but not that difficult. Don't worry though, the remaining bosses you have yet to fight will put you in your placeMaria
Haha, looking forward to it. Already met some seriously scary shark tank dudes, so if that is the ordinary enemies from now on, I guess the bosses will be tough.
Ah, alright then! Thanks for the reply, maybe I'll just venture into it now/try to level up on NG. I enjoy the challenge of getting through areas always, but even after having finished every Souls Game at the NG+ level, I think I'll try it out where I'm at and go from there!