They scale with skill I think.
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Bloodborne: The Old Hunters |OT| Old Hunters. New Tricks, Bells & Whistles.
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They scale with skill I think.
mickcenary
Member
Yo, Gaf! Will be jumping in tonight for the first time, so obviously some straightforward, spoiler free answers are all I need.
I'm at level 110 in NG+. 50SKL and ~40-45VIT being the pertinents. What say you guys? Appropriate? Good challenge? I was able to clear all of the CDs at this level, for what that's worth.
Cheers!
I'm at level 110 in NG+. 50SKL and ~40-45VIT being the pertinents. What say you guys? Appropriate? Good challenge? I was able to clear all of the CDs at this level, for what that's worth.
Cheers!
TheTurboFD
Member
Did they undo the update where if you dont find a coop match it will give back your insight? I canceled my search and re rang the bell only to find out it took another insight.
Orochinagis
Member
Punished_Snake
Member
wow this expansion is no joke,
kicked my ass many times, but I beat him eventually. Here's how I beat him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaVOW2fbUa4
Ludwig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaVOW2fbUa4
If you cleared the chalices like that, then you're probably good for at least the first area.
I can invade without any problem but nobody will join my game lol
I've gotten tons of messages about not being able to find a co-op partner so no insight was consumed.
I've gotten tons of messages about not being able to find a co-op partner so no insight was consumed.
brandonh83
Banned
I just want to say that first boss was just fucking amazing.
Are the rest of the bosses that good, or close at least? I honestly don't expect them to be lol, and that's okay.
Are the rest of the bosses that good, or close at least? I honestly don't expect them to be lol, and that's okay.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
First main boss down. That was a pain in the butt! Had to remember how to play pretty damned quickly because some of these guys hit like a bloody truck. Might have been a mistake using my NG++++ character, but I've grown pretty attached to her.
Laurentius
Member
GwyndolinCinder
Member
I was lazy and
killed the woman who wants brain shit
Also thats not the last boss
1 is utter trash, 1 is mostly a reskin, the other 2 are great though.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
In terms of gameplay, this dlc was just outstanding, my only disappointment is story .
We gotta disagree there since there is far to much too speculate about.
Laurentius
Member
I'm getting really lost
(Love it though.)
in the Research Hall.
Orochinagis
Member
Should be the last boss with that presentation
I am stoked (genuinely) to see you like a boss fight after seeing tons of "game was too easy" posts from you this past week or two.
finalflame
Banned
Anyone wanna coop/help me out with
? (Boss #2/3? spoilers)? Lv. 120!
Living Failures
The perfect Dark
Banned
I can't beat the first boss. He has too much hp and kills me in two hits. What the fuck?
Yeah, this. Level 170 on NG++ (edit: Actually NG+3 I think). It's... kinda hard for the wrong reasons imo, which so far has been this entire expansion. The encounters aren't really fun so far -- just kind of annoying.
edit: Yeah... I don't actually think I'm going to finish this. Got him down to 3/4 hp, and he 1 shot me with a dash.
People who play at NG++ what are your levels are you playing this at?
is basically killing me in one hit or two. Kinda rough jump from NG.
On what NG?
Ludwig
On what NG?
Chance Hale
Member
Is the Whirligig Saw any good?
finalflame
Banned
NG+!
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Sounds like you're somewhat underleveled for the content.
You have 3 options:
* Go and level up some more
* Go get some of the NPC's in the area and don't get hit
* Do it yourself, but also don't get hit
Lvl 130, 50 VIT with runes (so around 1890ish HP). I can survive even 3 hits, no more than that (charge and jumps are almost a 1hitKO but I can survive them if Im near full HP).
50 SKILL, using Burial Blade+10 with Chalice Gems, I do +600 DMG per hit but sthil shit goes down slooooooooowly. Still stuck on him, was gonna give up but I can't yet lol.
Sure why not. What password?
ohhhh, the boomhammer moveset seems nice... and dat sound. Oh shit, these Cainhurst yard ticks ...
That
was nice. Quick little asshole. Time for a lamp *looking nervously at the 300k souls*.
I am lvl 117 in NG+ and it seems just the right difficulty. Taking it real slow everywhere.
Really love the dlc so far and i have only seen a tiny fraction of it.
That
beast hunter with the claws
I am lvl 117 in NG+ and it seems just the right difficulty. Taking it real slow everywhere.
Really love the dlc so far and i have only seen a tiny fraction of it.
gift of 100 gab
Member
Having a hard time with the first boss on my BT build. Finding it tough to get enough hits in with the chikage's transformed mode before he dodges away, and with the health drain I have to constantly transform it back and forth. Lvl 71 on NG (~vit 30/skl 17/BT 35) and I can't summon anyone with my beckoning bell surprisingly (I can join others pretty easily though). What's the recommended level for NG?
KZXcellent
Member
Yeah being on NG++ was a mistake. The first Hunter that appeared knocked out 65%~ of my HP in one hit and I've got 50 VIT. YIKES. No interest in starting a newer character to have an easier time though since the game isn't really engaging enough and lacks the customization for me to start fresh on another character.
finalflame
Banned
Sweet, thanks. Password is: mtndew. I'm at the boss door!
RampantCereal
Neo Member
Is anyone disappointed by the design of last boss? I loved the first and the third one, but i don't think it's final boss material, I don't know, maybe it gets cooler in later stages of the fight?.
EDIT: Is there any thread to discuss the new lore?
EDIT: Is there any thread to discuss the new lore?
I can deal with the hunters fine. They're annoying because you basically *have* to visceral, but the platinum didn't earn itself.
Sadly, on NG+3, the first boss is basically 1 shotting me at level 170. Only character I have, and I don't have time to play through the base game again from level 1 just so I can play DLC. Really disappointing that the difficulty couldn't be balanced in some way for people who want to have a "normal" experience.
Hunters are easy IMO. Hell I didnt die once on my way to the first boss, but I just cant get past him. I really think he has too much HP.
But yeah I could do a run with an NG character, Its just that I really wanted to finish this with my first one (and the one I put more work to it).
EDIT: Mind you, Im not saying "OMG TOO HARD NERF!!" just weird how big of a difficulty gap between the area and the boss itself (I still think depth 5 Chalices can be harder, minus the boss of course). If I can't beat it I'll suck it up and use another char.
Haha will ring the bell soon. Set network to worldwide.
edit.
I have basically same stats. This feels pretty hard.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
yeah thats my biggest disappointment after, it doesnt end on a big known lore build up
Whats the level range for password co-op right now, i might run through it on ng+(x) if anyone wants some help
finalflame
Banned
Network set to worldwide! Feel free to PSN me as well if you wish: macopoulos.
Orochinagis
Member
Yup, just more fuel for more mindless speculation since the Cosmic stuff goes to other direction as the one established from the main game.
Brian_FETO
Banned
Feeling way better about my level now that I got (1st Boss) L halfway down. Could obviously be doing better but (at least for the first part) once you have the dodge down it's fairly straightforward
(NG+ Level 82 btw)
(NG+ Level 82 btw)
Finale Fireworker
Member
Are you talking about
Ludwig
Yes, he does tons of damage. This is one of those fights where making use of regain can be really helpful. While he might take out a third or half of your health, you can often get close enough to hit him repeatedly and reclaim most of the damage you were just dealt.
It can feel really risky, and it kind of is, because you are constantly trading damage with him. But it's enough to keep you alive if your weapon has strong rally potential.
Other than that, unlocking and just running away as fast as you can is a very effective strategy. Once you are at a big distance, you have time to heal, and regain your footing. He can actually be really easy to "approach" because it is easy to react to his attacks when you have lots of room between you two.
I also usually hate this advice, but "getting under him" can also be really helpful. He can't reach you under there, and with a big weapon you have lots of room to connect. If you can get him against a wall, he won't have anywhere to go, and you can just run out your stamina meter. Usually he will start trashing and stomping, which will do lots of damage, but it also has a long animation.
So you can let him stomp you, but then run away and heal up. Then reapproach.
I used LHB buffed with a Phantasm Shell for this fight. Fire Paper did more damage, but I was failing too often to keep using it on every retry.
This will get you through the first half of the fight.
The second half is obviously way different. His attacks are even more powerful and can be even harder to dodge, but they're also much slower and much more plainly telegraphed. Once again, putting tons of distance between you and the boss will give you lots or room to approach. You can dodge his attacks more easily this way and damage him during his recovery animation.
Sometimes he will lunge forward, which leaves him open for a comparatively long time and enables you to approach from behind. Just wail on him here. This is usually your "big opening."
I didn't finish the fight gracefully by any means. I was consuming Blood Vials ravenously and burned through hundreds of them in my constant reattempts. I also never figured out how to predictably evade him when he jumps up and drops down from the ceiling. But I did get better every time, and eventually it worked.
EvilKatarn
Member
Moonlight Blade at +10 now, got the blood rock.
680 damage and since my strength and arcane are pretty low and I don't have top tier gems it's gonna go way up. Absolutely ridiculous.
Also tried the last two bosses. Whew christ, those guys are gonna have to wait until the weekend sadly.
680 damage and since my strength and arcane are pretty low and I don't have top tier gems it's gonna go way up. Absolutely ridiculous.
Also tried the last two bosses. Whew christ, those guys are gonna have to wait until the weekend sadly.