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Bloodborne: The Old Hunters |OT| Old Hunters. New Tricks, Bells & Whistles.
- Thread starter Robot Pants
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I'm up to the 3rd boss...I wish From Software would not place bosses back-to-back like they did with Dark Souls 2 DLC (Elana then Sinh the dragon)...I like to explore an area and then have a boss at the end...putting them back-to-back doesn't feel right...1st boss was fun and challenging because he's so aggressive...took me about 7 tries to kill him, all during his 1st phase...once he transformed I took him out the first time....2nd boss was tougher then it should have been as those meteors shooting from the sky kept killing me...I keep getting Boss 3 down to around 20% left of health but her 3rd phase is tough and I keep running out of health vials
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
Huh. Others joined when first was half health for me.
Just started up again. I beat the original game so now I'm working towards the DLC. Everything is harder and I have all my stuff. Guessing I'm in NG+? Does that make the DLC extra hard now too? I was able to summon Father Gascoigne in Central Yharnam which was cool. I guess that's new?
It seems like that you just played too much of it. These bosses are not way harder than all the other ones in the game except for one...but it is supposed to be challenge so be it? I am level 105 on NG+ and killed everything with a few tries. Most fights were 5-7 minutes which is okay and pumps me up. These boss fights are well designed and all their high damage attacks are easily avoidable (except for OoK). First boss jumps into the air? Count down to 3 and dodge - avoided. First boss charges his ultimate attack for a few seconds? Wait a bit and run towards him - he glitches and misses every time. He swings left? Dodge to the left and into him. Right? The same just right. Second phase where he uses magic? Easy side dodges - easy stun lock for him (he is weak from his behind, you can get more than 3 viscal attacks) And this is just an example for the first boss. It's just pattern learning like every damn boss in these games.
Yes DLC is NG+ too of course. Father Gascoigne was always summonable there, but most people miss that cause they don't understand insight.
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
To be fair, second boss feels more like a body guard rather than an actual boss.
Phoenix944
Member
Oh ffs that last boss. I'm crying tears of blood right now.
He has waaaay to much life lol
He has waaaay to much life lol
GwyndolinCinder
Member
If this was souls i'd says theres gotta be more to this, but its bloodborne so it might be the only thing to it.
HORRORSHØW
Member
oh crap. there's another guy in a cell. lol thx
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I was riding high on this DLC bringing me that Bloodborne goodness all the way through, but the optional boss has just made me turn off and walk away pretty pissed off.
Terrible move design (5 SWIPES, ALL ROOM SIZED, GOOD TO GO!), cheap as hell, a reskin, way too much health and a truly shitty 2nd phase.
Not sure I can even be arsed trying until the weekend when maybe I'll luck out and get a small bell helper but fat chance of that because that systems still fucked. What makes it even more bizarre is there only one of those NPC summon bell points in the whole DLC? Put one of them on this optional boss ffs.
Dear Miyazaki: room sized swiping is not a fun game mechanic. Please cuff the back of your underlings heads the next time they even try such shit.
Terrible move design (5 SWIPES, ALL ROOM SIZED, GOOD TO GO!), cheap as hell, a reskin, way too much health and a truly shitty 2nd phase.
Not sure I can even be arsed trying until the weekend when maybe I'll luck out and get a small bell helper but fat chance of that because that systems still fucked. What makes it even more bizarre is there only one of those NPC summon bell points in the whole DLC? Put one of them on this optional boss ffs.
Dear Miyazaki: room sized swiping is not a fun game mechanic. Please cuff the back of your underlings heads the next time they even try such shit.
Well hard to say yet. After a week we will probably know if there is any other way. The startegy guide also drops soon enough confirming anything that isn't known.
finalflame
Member
Maria
After beating Maria, I went to the Hunter's Dream and mashed X on the doll and missed all her special dialogue except the last part. Is the dialogue in text form anywhere out there? It's not on the doll's wiki page. On a related note, good to know good ol' German pleasured himself with a doll that resembled a student of his.
Phoenix944
Member
There is at least missable side quest. It's in the research hall.
You'll eventually see a NPC asking for a "brain fluid". The brain fluid is looted at the very top of the level (you'll have to hit another NPC to get it).
It's missable because if you kill the NPC, you can't finish the side quest. It sounds ridiculous to kill her but since she drops a key to a secret area you can be screwed if you don't know that... And yes, I killed her...
It's missable because if you kill the NPC, you can't finish the side quest. It sounds ridiculous to kill her but since she drops a key to a secret area you can be screwed if you don't know that... And yes, I killed her...
HORRORSHØW
Member
i'm lost. is this cave where i'm supposed to go? i beat the half-beast hunter and cleared the cave but everything's a dead-end. just going around in circles in the fishing village.
Phoenix944
Member
Damn, if you're having trouble here don't even attempt the final boss lol
i had a LOT more trouble with that one than the final boss
Grimløck;186791984 said:
Seriously?! Spoiler your stuff please.
I think he looks cool.
I even think I saw that he had a penis hanging. Might be my desires kicking in though.
HORRORSHØW
Member
thnx a lot! i hear freaking singing down there
it's a non-descript cave. calm your tits
Aces&Eights
Member
Yes! Defeated
. Heart pounding and palms are sweaty. I'm getting too old, From, lol.
Anyone want to help me with
I think I'm just outside his lair and I have
lady maria
Anyone want to help me with
flaming cleric beast?
Laurences skull
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Gave the final boss a beat down of epic proportions on second try. The optional boss is some straight up bullshit. You're dependant entirely on luck with whatever movesets he busts out because 4 out of 5 of them have no openings.
The optional boss is
Laurence
Arjen
Member
You can summon an npc at the optional boss, but maybe you need to be in the covenant, he's useless though, dies way to fast.
Just dodge forward trough his swipes to get behind him, second face just circle his right.
I certainly respect that, but i'm the opposite. The bosses are the goal, while the levels are the area inbetween. The bosses really make or break the entire experience for me.
finalflame
Member
But..who was the common factor in all 16 of those attempts? You. Perhaps it is you that sucks...
I jest. Ludwig is a doozy.
Aces&Eights
Member
I can't remember who I need to give the
brain fluid
Still need help on optional boss outside Amelias place if anyone wants to help.
Phoenix944
Member
Hmm I thought the optional boss was
The orphan of Kos
So yea, I'm in the same boat as you lol
Yes, I just can't read
her
KCroxtonJr
Member
Funny that u mention OoK being the hardest to avoid, he was actually the easiest for me to avoid (did get caught quite a few times though), and also the only boss I beat on my first try, with no help (NG+).
It was also the only boss I fought with the Whirlgig Saw, which is hands down my favorite weapon in the game. Not sure if that made a difference. Probably did though, seeing as how I did a 4k damage stun lock attack at one point in the fight lol.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Can someone please tell me which boss is the "optional" one?
Anyway, just defeated my third boss,
First things first - that Research Room Stair Labyrinth is, on one hand, and absolute brutal fucking puzzle. Getting lost multiple times, dying from falls, and the mobs are straight up ridiculous. Almost every enemy, no matter how vanilla, had the capability to wipe health out in a second or two. Took me at least five or six tries to make it through. On the other hand, though... it's really great. It was a legitimately good puzzle, and the art design is spectacular. the light shining in up top was beautiful.
Boss was pretty easy. Sure, I used like 15 vials, but I defeated it on my first try. I'll take that. Don't know how you're supposed to dodge that AOE attack, though.
Anyway - definitely feel the DLC is more difficult than the base game. Not necessarily because it's significantly harder - but more than the standard game had about ~10 hours of pretty brutal shit sprinkled into a 30-60hr game. Here, that same 10 hours of difficulty is about on par with the base game, but that's all there is.
So far, in terms of difficulty, I'd have to say, boss wise:
Overall, my biggest complaint thus far is really the camera - it's been a bitch on at least 10 different occasions. I think there are more fights in tight corridors here, and the camera just isn't up to the task.
That said, loving it regardless.
Anyway, just defeated my third boss,
Living Failures.
First things first - that Research Room Stair Labyrinth is, on one hand, and absolute brutal fucking puzzle. Getting lost multiple times, dying from falls, and the mobs are straight up ridiculous. Almost every enemy, no matter how vanilla, had the capability to wipe health out in a second or two. Took me at least five or six tries to make it through. On the other hand, though... it's really great. It was a legitimately good puzzle, and the art design is spectacular. the light shining in up top was beautiful.
Boss was pretty easy. Sure, I used like 15 vials, but I defeated it on my first try. I'll take that. Don't know how you're supposed to dodge that AOE attack, though.
Anyway - definitely feel the DLC is more difficult than the base game. Not necessarily because it's significantly harder - but more than the standard game had about ~10 hours of pretty brutal shit sprinkled into a 30-60hr game. Here, that same 10 hours of difficulty is about on par with the base game, but that's all there is.
So far, in terms of difficulty, I'd have to say, boss wise:
LAURENCE the first vicar was an absolute BITCH. Tough as shit. I blame this more on the camera than anything, though. Phase 1 was a cakewalk, but I kept getting bodied into his lave in phase 2, and then the camera would shit the bed and I couldn't "escape."
Ludwig took a couple tries, but wasn't too bad if you took your time and learned the move set. Hard, challenging, but felt fair.
Living Failures was pretty easy and kind of boring.
Ludwig took a couple tries, but wasn't too bad if you took your time and learned the move set. Hard, challenging, but felt fair.
Living Failures was pretty easy and kind of boring.
Overall, my biggest complaint thus far is really the camera - it's been a bitch on at least 10 different occasions. I think there are more fights in tight corridors here, and the camera just isn't up to the task.
That said, loving it regardless.
finalflame
Member
What's your stat distribution to be getting that much damage out of Whirlgig? I find its damage output to be middling compared to Ludwig's.
Just keep your distance. On her last phase she has two types of attacks: long ranged blood attacks and faster close-ranged attacks. If you keep enough distance she will have to dash towards you in order to do some of them, giving you a long enough window to shoot and parry.
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
So optional boss that second phase..... Lol what???!!
hmm , first boss is good "perfect dodge - git gud" training (NG+, lvl 116). Got him almost half down in third try but i still haven't seen all his attack patterns. Will be a good moment when he's down.
Good that FROM has put that 5 vial source right before him ...
ohhhh, his charge is a 1HKO ... was doing so well -_-
Good that FROM has put that 5 vial source right before him ...
ohhhh, his charge is a 1HKO ... was doing so well -_-