kidfresh718
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Does anybody feel that since microsoft is doing this that sony make come out and suprise everyone and release ps4 early.
What is it with these companies trying to get me off the sofa?
My day job is very labour intensive and I also run the roads every other night after putting 2 kids to bath and bed.
Please let me retain my sofa gaming habits!
Does anybody feel that since microsoft is doing this that sony make come out and suprise everyone and release ps4 early.
Please tell me this is just a poor attempt at innocently trolling for the sake of humor?
Did you not read any of the replies to your last.....silly post?
If either of them were to launch "early", it would be by a month or two IMO. It's very possible for both to launch late 2013 just like both the Wii and PS3 launched late 2006.
IF Sony would release PS4 next year, isn´t it very likely that they would announce it at this year´s E3?
That´s how they have done it in the past.
Does anybody feel that since microsoft is doing this that sony make come out and suprise everyone and release ps4 early.
IF Sony would release PS4 next year, isn´t it very likely that they would announce it at this year´s E3?
That´s how they have done it in the past.
Only if the next Xbox is there. That's why PS3 was at E3 2005... MS unveiled 360 in May on MTV, Sony tried to rain on their parade.
Apologies but I think my point is valid. Who knows how hard MS will push kinect especially if it's included in the package.Please tell me this is just a poor attempt at innocently trolling for the sake of humor?
Did you not read any of the replies to your last.....silly post?
PS2 was also revealed a year before release... and also Sony might want to rain on Nintendos Wii U parade.
2012 is the year of PS3.![]()
I think games haven't been too impressive due to MS raising expectations a bit too high when the technology wasn't ready/mature yet and developers not having enough time with said tech.
Unless you want kinect to be the primary input device, which it won't be, making it standard will have little effect on it's support IMO. The overall install base is all that matters and while I understand including it in every box will help build the install base of the controller, it would also limit the market potential of the system as a whole.
I see Sony unveiling ps4 at playstation meeting and launching early 2013. Sony has already stated that they do not wanna be late this time around..
IF Sony would release PS4 next year, isn´t it very likely that they would announce it at this year´s E3?
That´s how they have done it in the past.
Apologies but I think my point is valid. Who knows how hard MS will push kinect especially if it's included in the package.
Kinect may well be the one of the primary focus of the nextbox.
There's a trade-off but I've been led to believe Kinect has helped MS sell more Xboxes since it was introduced (people actually want it). I think whether including Kinect will hurt the install base is debatable.
There is also another issue affecting how Kinect games mature and that it's whether there'll be a split install base or not. Given a split install base, accommodating non-Kinect users can mean anything from designing two separate solutions to simplifying the game to work on a regular gamepad. These kind of things, not just install base, affect how Kinect matures too and in the long run, how much people value it (which affects install base and so on)...
What I meant is, it would limit the market potential as a whole since it would hinder the flexibility they had with cost and pricing. They have an extra cost they need to factor in with dropping the price of the hardware, something their competitors may not have.
If it's easier for Sony to drop to $200 than it is for MS because they decided to pack in a Kinect with every system, which do you think would be an easier sell? As we saw with the Ps3 this gen, how much "value" is packed in a box doesn't directly translate into great sales.
Kinect hardware itself is not that expensive to make and in a couple of years the cost of everything but the optics will probably be negligible. The situation might change somewhat if they decide to ship Kinect 2 with the system, but even that can be expected to go down in price over time, especially if there are more chips in it this time around.
That said, the price may not be a problem at all as long as it's reasonable. The 360 has been at the $200/$300 price point since 2008, and now it's actually more expensive than its competitors.
I think the safest assumption right now is that the Kinect we have now won't be the same Kinect used with nextbox. It would be a mistake for MS to launch 2 different sensors for the same system, ranging from causing issues with game development to creating confusion for the buyer who doesn't frequent game sites and forums.
Regardless, how much it adds to the cost really isn't the point. The point is it's a cost your competitors don't have to worry about.
Let's pretend Sony launches their own depth sensor but does not make it standard, instead adopts MS current SKU model. If both the ps4 and Xbox are similarly specced, which company do you think would enjoy more freedom and flexibility with both cost and price?
And if next gen is 720p again im freaking out of the console part of this industry i wont buy it.
The fact that you believe current Kinect tech is "good enough" just cements the invalidity of the post.
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Only if the next Xbox is there. That's why PS3 was at E3 2005... MS unveiled 360 in May on MTV, Sony tried to rain on their parade.
I'm a bit confused understanding what you're getting at here. Why would a new HDMI spec be necessary? Exactly what is missing that you feel needs to be added pursuant to 3D?
Similarly, what does FPR's potential popularity have to do with any of this? It's a display technology. It has zero to do with how games are rendered. That's why we have video standards ... to avoid any problems from the input side. All 3D displays, whether passive, active, or whatever all input the same 3D data. How they display them is immaterial.
That doesn't necessarily have to be the case if the two are sufficiently differentiated, and a new piece of hardware may boost the sales later in the cycle the same way Kinect helped the 360. The initial Kinect for Xbox 3 might be somewhere between the unit we have now and a proper Kinect 2.
But it would also be a big enabler, kind of like the broadband adapter and the hard drive in the first Xbox. There's no doubt that Sony would have more flexibility when it comes to pricing, just as there's no doubt that Microsoft would see its sensor utilized significantly more often.
That's revisionist. Sony wasn't trying to rain on anyone's parade. They planned to release the PS3 at a certain time, and showed it to the public based on that timeline. Only later did it get delayed due to myriad production issues.
The first XBOX,it was revealed ces 2000 right?
Does anybody feel that since microsoft is doing this that sony make come out and suprise everyone and release ps4 early.
about as likely as alien smurfs dropping down from heaven with bazooka gum stuffed in their Chinese manufactured wallets, while singing a never before heard track featuring 2pac and Eazy E, with backing vocals from Rianna and beyonce, while their pet reptiles are dancing to dubstep remixes of "the terminator" and "Jurassic Park" theme songs.
That should pretty much sum up the likelihood of that happening.
Actually, if Microsoft has changed their hardware targets extremely recently there is an outside change that Sony could release their console beforehand in at least 1 region.
Actually, if Microsoft has changed their hardware targets extremely recently there is an outside change that Sony could release their console beforehand in at least 1 region.
lol if you really believe Sony planned to originally launch the ps3 early 2006. How unfinished that system was on a OS, tools, and network level at launch should be more than enough proof that early 2006 was never a real goal.
I don't know why, but I'm getting a feeling of dread that MS could really blow this next generation by trying to chase the casual gamer at the expense of the core and thus end up with nothing anyone wants.
It was definitely in 2000, though offhand I don't know the event.Well, CES 2001