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Bloomberg: some grated parmesan sold on market has 0% parmesan, up to 8% wood-pulp
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stop with this nonsense that pecorino is superior to parmesan
. It's just a different family of cheese with different uses. Also, what would you advocate it's the best pecorino? because you can't switch out pecorino romano with pecorino sardo or pecorino di pienza and so on. also, you can't do a parmigiana with pecorino, it's just wrong, so your point is automatically moot.
in any case try the comté.
it isn't
in any case try the comté.
The GOP wants to get rid of the FDA.
and so with your dimished quantity of fucks to be distributed you automatically deserve to pour sawdust on whatever shit you are gobbling today
beato_angelico
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America!
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Based upon my expectation of what feet would taste like due to experiences of being in close proximity to rather smelly feet.
Skellig Gra
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Yeah, get a block and grate your own
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The Autumn Wind
Who needs regulations? The free market will sort this out. Grated wood pulp for everyone!
outunderthestars
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Regardless of price, consumers should be able to expect the I gredient list to be accurate.
Yeah there's only cellulose in it now because the heavy hands of the government effectively pushed them into a corner and made it necessary!
beato_angelico
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"Now with 25% more cellulose!"
The Elite
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Yeah, I bought that once. It's terrible.
balladofwindfishes
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I used to do that, but I got too lazy to wash the grater every time I needed Parmesan cheese
Box of Kittens
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Well I guess it's 100% grated "Parmesan"-y style inspired flavor. I'm a pretty big fan of just keeping a wedge of Parmesan on hand and grating some when I need it.
It's a lot like Star Trek: The Next Generation. In many it's superior, but will never be as recognized as the original.
It's a lot like Star Trek: The Next Generation. In many it's superior, but will never be as recognized as the original.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
That is absolutely a bad thing. It's a terrible thing. It's even worse that people think it's not a bad thing. Short of them including one free stabbing in the earhole, it's the worst thing in the world to happen to food. "Well, shit, at least they're honest about including wood in my cheese." That's not fetch. That's so fucking not fetch.
RumblingRosco
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. If you're joking, I tip my hat to you, bro. If you're serious, I'm wondering, what are the side effects of eating cellulose/could you elaborate?
WanderingWind
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Oh, man. I guess I misstyped and posted something about harmful side effects of cellulose. Shit, my bad bro. I thought I was just talking about food conglomerates convincing Americans that wood by-product is just something that has to be added to cheese. Clearly, some combination of the words I used manifested some secret code that you saw that had something to do with side effects. I'll have to work on my invisible, non-existent words in the future.
And lord knows what the fuck you're talking about.
poppabk
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It's okay if it has the scrapings off the insides of slaughtered baby calf stomachs, but I'm not putting up with some cellulose that makes up the majority of plants god dammit.
I had you confused with other antivaxers who preach similar gospels about food additives they know nothing about sorry
beato_angelico
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Wait, some seriosly think having cellulose in your cheese is a good thing?
It's an insoluble fiber made out of plants and wood, used as an anti-caking agent... the issue isn't powdered cellulose, it's companies being deceitful. Cool your jets.
yes, it is, it's totally bad. I agree it's edible, but it's not cheese. you're buying cheese, why should there be any wood shavings in it? many more things are edible but I don't want to eat them and sure as hell I don't want them in my parmigiano.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
So, uh, what are you getting at? Just "fuck it, if it doesn't kill you, why not add it if it saves Kraft some cash?" Are you people really this confused that food doesn't need to contain extraneous stuff in it?
It is absolutely the point. It actually makes me a bit sad that you and others think it's not.
EDIT: And for the record, I'm mostly having fun. I would have thought the whole "free stabbing" thing would've made that obvious. Add this [/s] wherever it's supposed to go. I'm too old to understand where to place that fucking thing.
Ever since i found out that Kraft American cheese was cheese "product" that contained no damn cheese that part of the shopping aisle is dead to me
Real cheese section has cheese blocks that you can grate so easily that this is all I get now. Of course it's a little more expensive, but a real burger is more expensive than McDonald's as well. It's worth it
Real cheese section has cheese blocks that you can grate so easily that this is all I get now. Of course it's a little more expensive, but a real burger is more expensive than McDonald's as well. It's worth it
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
No?
Powdered cellulose: minuscule pieces of wood pulp or other plant fibers that coat the cheese and keep it from clumping by blocking out moisture. One of an array of factory-made additives, cellulose is increasingly used by the processed-food industry,
Due to availability of supply and cost considerations, most powdered cellulose is sourced from either wood-, cotton-, or bamboo-based plant material.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Anti-caking, moisture absorption, are important for shredded cheese shelf life and consistency. Don't like it, don't buy it and buy a triangle of Parmesan and grate it yourself.
Nothing inherently wrong about it, except for the misleading labeling.
Seriously.
A Fish Aficionado
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hodayathink
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Depends. Check if the store you're going to actually has Parmiggiano Reggiano, and then ask them to grate it for you. Even though my chain was called out in the OP for our generic, we do have the real thing.
WanderingWind
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Sorry that facts offend you so. Enjoy eating your "cheese," I guess. You'll sure show me, eating Kraft's lowest common denominator.
What? You guys really do equate "maybe cheese should contain cheese" with some anti-vaxxer/hippy shit, eh? Some of you really need to go find you a couple of chefs to hang out with. Not Applebee's microwave cooks. Chefs.
Funky Papa
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Cellulose has its place in grated cheese as anti-caking agent. Nothing wrong with it as long as it's properly labeled and cheeky vendors don't try to use it as filler. Try to grate cheese and put it in a bag: it turns into a clump in just a few hours. That's where cellulose (or cornstarch) comes handy for supermarket chains.
I personally buy Grana Padano since it's much cheaper than proper Parmesan and pretty much the same thing if you intend to use it for cooking instead that eating it right away. The problem is that buying a slab and grating it at home can be fairly costly unless you eat a lot of cheese or intend to use it all before it turns bad, so pre-grated bags are better suited for many folks.
I personally buy Grana Padano since it's much cheaper than proper Parmesan and pretty much the same thing if you intend to use it for cooking instead that eating it right away. The problem is that buying a slab and grating it at home can be fairly costly unless you eat a lot of cheese or intend to use it all before it turns bad, so pre-grated bags are better suited for many folks.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
oh please get over yourself.
Basically. The labeling I have contentions with, not the use of cellulose. I usually don't cook a lot of Italian food, so on occasion that I do, I'll buy a bit of parm. The pre shredded stuff is fine for most common uses. I prefer the Mexican Cotija over Parmesan for that.
Kraft is the worst I'll buy; I enjoy the flavor. Sometimes more than the real stuff.
My grocery store sells freshly grated, sliced, etc parm with no fillers. And of course parm blocks of all varieties; if I'm in the mood for something with more funk than the simple flavor of Kraft I'll buy a tub, I particularly like the sliced sort of "thin wood chip" sized varieties.
Cleaning a cheese grater is such a pain and if you dish wash them they tend to fall apart or rust; need to buy a higher quality one I guess.
My grocery store sells freshly grated, sliced, etc parm with no fillers. And of course parm blocks of all varieties; if I'm in the mood for something with more funk than the simple flavor of Kraft I'll buy a tub, I particularly like the sliced sort of "thin wood chip" sized varieties.
Cleaning a cheese grater is such a pain and if you dish wash them they tend to fall apart or rust; need to buy a higher quality one I guess.
Sidewinder
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I don't know much about that stuff, but how do they get that cellulose out of these plants, do they use some fancy chemicals? If so, doesn't that add to the chemical cocktail consisting of small traces of pesticides, fungicides, fertilisiers and other residues coming from wrappings, ink on the packages, antibiotics in animals and so on everybody ingests on a daily basis??
Isolated all these things might very well be a non-issue for human health, but what about the accumulation of all that shit from the day we're born till the day we die?
God Dayumm
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Now I'm worried the shredded Kraft mozzarella I buy is actually some other shit.
Skellig Gra
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I know that feel bro. That's why I just use the cheap shit for a quick and dirty pasta dish and the good stuff for a nice meal.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Who buys it pre-grated anyway. It tastes so much better when you grate it freshly.
Their California olive oil is some of the best you can get. I would assume their stuff is better.
The thing that gets me is, if you're buying cheese and it doesn't have to be refrigerated in the store, that's probably a big red flag.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
You'll get over it.
Make America grate again.
Skellig Gra
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You are right it does. Almost everyone buys it pre-grated though.
Sidewinder
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Haha, nice!
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