Borowski_1
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More expensive than the console, and almost no games
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Boomberg: Sony Hits Pause on PSVR2 Production as Unsold Inventory Piles Up
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Cyberpunkd
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Gen.Grievous
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What were they expecting? It's a niche product, it won't sell great. It also doesn't matter how many games you release for it. It remains niche.
Price and weight have nothing to do with it. Not many people are interested in VR and restricting it to the PS5 which was still not readily available when this headset came out for sure did not help.
consoul
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Breaking: Guy with history of churning out Sony hit pieces for clicks produces another one.
Here's an alternate headline shamelessly biased in the other direction:
PSVR2 manufacturing pipeline so efficient it outpaces demand.
Of course they're not going to keep producing units surplus to demand. Sony have strategic reasons for progressing VR tech beyond PSVR2 (as demonstrated by their partnership with Apple). It's a niche product for a limited base. So is Portal. Neither will sink the company if they stay niche, so what's the harm?
I like that Playstation is willing to throw some ideas out there that won't necessarily be mainstream successes. They've become less experimental and more risk averse each generation. I hope they keep giving fringe ideas a shot.
Here's an alternate headline shamelessly biased in the other direction:
PSVR2 manufacturing pipeline so efficient it outpaces demand.
Of course they're not going to keep producing units surplus to demand. Sony have strategic reasons for progressing VR tech beyond PSVR2 (as demonstrated by their partnership with Apple). It's a niche product for a limited base. So is Portal. Neither will sink the company if they stay niche, so what's the harm?
I like that Playstation is willing to throw some ideas out there that won't necessarily be mainstream successes. They've become less experimental and more risk averse each generation. I hope they keep giving fringe ideas a shot.
xrnzaaas
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It's hilarious to me that if you look at the first year Sony has done an even worse job promoting and supporting this thing than with PSVR1. We got one Horizon game, several indie exclusives, VR modes for GT7 & two RE games and that's it. Plus no backwards compatibility so you have to count on the devs to release new versions... and all of that for the same price as the console.
Meta devices may not get many "big" VR games like Horizon or Gran Turismo 7 VR, but at least there's a steady stream of new titles and most of all you can play all Quest 2 games on Quest 3.
Meta devices may not get many "big" VR games like Horizon or Gran Turismo 7 VR, but at least there's a steady stream of new titles and most of all you can play all Quest 2 games on Quest 3.
Vick
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You make one of the very few OLED VR sets, pack it with better tech than alternatives costing twice as much, a simple and quick update would make it the only VR set connectable to a 3D Blu-Ray player now that 3D TVs are no longer produced and thousands of people lack official ways to watch their collection of 3D movies to the point a simple and basic head mounted display like Cinera amassed more a million dollar funding while costing twice as much as the PSVR2 for the ONLY reason of being able to read 3D BD (and turned out to be a scam in the first place).
You have press asking you to add 3D BD support, petitions begging you to add 3D BD support, you have millionaires on enthusiast home theatre forums claiming PSVR 2 would be the definitive way to watch 3D BD..
You decide a simple PS5 Update like PS3 and PS4 received to read 3D BD isn't worth it.
mixed-news.com
You now lack sales because of no support and no backwards compatibility.. and you still refuse to open the gates to a niche of tens of thousands of people eager to purchase your product.
You have press asking you to add 3D BD support, petitions begging you to add 3D BD support, you have millionaires on enthusiast home theatre forums claiming PSVR 2 would be the definitive way to watch 3D BD..
You decide a simple PS5 Update like PS3 and PS4 received to read 3D BD isn't worth it.
No Blu-Ray 3D support planned for Playstation VR 2
Sony's gaming hardware chief Yasuo Takahashi confirmed in an interview that there are no plans for Blu-ray 3D support on PSVR 2.
mixed-news.com
You now lack sales because of no support and no backwards compatibility.. and you still refuse to open the gates to a niche of tens of thousands of people eager to purchase your product.
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Killjoy-NL
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First person games in VR is hands-down the best way to experience First person gaming.
The tech isn't the issue, it's pricing, marketing and support.
And that goes for any VR device. What it needs is proper full-fledged games and not glorified tech-demoes, which 90% of the VR games basically are, no matter the platform.
Rocco Schiavone
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Boomberg
UltimaKilo
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You cannot release a product with ZERO marketing. That was baffling to me, and I knew it would fail. Couple that with the price entry, lack of support or even backwards compatibility, and it was obvious it would fail, even to the layman.
Yes, price absolutely mattered here, and so did the lack of ANY support. It’s a big market, so something ridiculous for you to write.
It won’t be enough. By the time they open it up to PC, it will be outdated and overpriced compared to competitors, maybe if they also slashed prices, which would be catastrophic due to likely low margins on the product.
They should have waited to get into VR until they had more compelling, cheaper tech with a boatload of software. They should also have made it a stand alone device to compete with Valve and Meta.
There’s a reason Valve is dragging feet on the Deckard: the tech is still years away.
You cannot release a product with ZERO marketing. That was baffling to me, and I knew it would fail. Couple that with the price entry, lack of support or even backwards compatibility, and it was obvious it would fail, even to the layman.
Yes, price absolutely mattered here, and so did the lack of ANY support. It’s a big market, so something ridiculous for you to write.
It won’t be enough. By the time they open it up to PC, it will be outdated and overpriced compared to competitors, maybe if they also slashed prices, which would be catastrophic due to likely low margins on the product.
They should have waited to get into VR until they had more compelling, cheaper tech with a boatload of software. They should also have made it a stand alone device to compete with Valve and Meta.
There’s a reason Valve is dragging feet on the Deckard: the tech is still years away.
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Takahashi is incredibly unreliable and he’s borderline a bitter PS hater: https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/s/MsLNbcbYr9
Vlodril
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Context matters. Or at least it should (let's face it mostly it doesn't because people want to have their biases confirmed).
rofif
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I mean it just kinda sucks. No matter if there are exclusives or not
Physiognomonics
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It just needed games. Seriously. I am sure this is Ryan's fault BTW.
Lumpyoatmeal
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Poppyseed, keep your receipts like I be doing..
I noticed there are posters that like to shift the goal post to dodge accountability on this board.
nush
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That's what I probably used my PSVR1 the most for as I'd upgraded my TV to 4K and 3D Blu Rays are dirt cheap now.
FingerBang
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No fucking shit
Awful support. I don't understand what the hell they're doing with this thing. Why did they even release it?
Looking forward to the PC support, but come the fuck on, what a joke.
Awful support. I don't understand what the hell they're doing with this thing. Why did they even release it?
Looking forward to the PC support, but come the fuck on, what a joke.
Lumpyoatmeal
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Knowing Valve for a very long time I would not be surprised at all if they abandon VR, I hope I’m wrong because the authentic fans of Valve are going to be shit out of luck again while the fanboys feast for the next Valve fix.
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ManaByte
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No, they get the biggest VR exclusives actually. Asgard's Wrath II is one of the biggest VR games ever and it's not on PSVR2. Quest also has the VR Assassin's Creed game, PSVR2 doesn't. PSVR2 is a $550 paper weight and I regret buying it.
Hudo
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I agree. But I don't think PSVR2 needs to be standalone. It just needs to be open to PC and be reasonably priced. This thing should not cost more than $360.
That Sony thought they could sell this for more than the PS5 while also requiring a PS5 is crazy.
Tiago Rodrigues
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lmao. if anything this shows they won't be doing more platforms.
Davevil
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fastest finger
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Let me guess….. Takashi Mochizuki again?
Spins BS for a living. Don’t believe a word of it.
Spins BS for a living. Don’t believe a word of it.
I'm actually stunned SIE could ship that many PSVR2 units as indicated by the IDC estimates (~1.7M).
PSVR2 sell-through was already mediocre at launch but totally collapsed in the following quarters.
I'm wondering how many headsets are stuck in the channel...
PSVR2 got Vita'd.
PSVR2 sell-through was already mediocre at launch but totally collapsed in the following quarters.
I'm wondering how many headsets are stuck in the channel...
PSVR2 got Vita'd.
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Loxus
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I know right.
I'm not saying the PSVR2 sales can't be low, but this guy is extremely unreliable with PS stuff.
I'm surprised someone would still make a thread with PS info from him.
PanzerCute
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No one is arguing that the PSVR2 sells well enough, but the last two times Bloomberg reported numbers on PSVR2 they were complete BS (they said 300k units were sold in 3 months when Sony officially announced 600k+ in 6 weeks)
And on the last report we got on PSVR2 market share in VR, it did not seem as bad as what this article is refering to. Like not at all.
So yeah, big grain of salt here.
And Sony, move your ****** ass.
And on the last report we got on PSVR2 market share in VR, it did not seem as bad as what this article is refering to. Like not at all.
So yeah, big grain of salt here.
And Sony, move your ****** ass.
nemiroff
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The timing and execution of the PSVR2 did not make a lot of sense, and everyone that knew a little bit about the scene warned about the outcome. I'm a seated/cockpit-only VR enthusiast, so tethered doesn't bother me at all. But for the average consumer.., bulky AF, tethered, walled garden, no games. What did Sony expect (sales for some reason).
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Chukhopops
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I don’t think PC compatibility can even save it at this point, why would you buy it over a Quest 3 if you want to use for PC?
Quest 3 gives you access to standalone use, wireless PC use, exclusive Quest 3 games, better mixed reality. PSVR2 has the controllers and foveated rendering, both of which are unlikely to be supported when using as a PC headset.
Unless PSVR2 somehow becomes a lot cheaper it won’t move many units on the PC market.
Quest 3 gives you access to standalone use, wireless PC use, exclusive Quest 3 games, better mixed reality. PSVR2 has the controllers and foveated rendering, both of which are unlikely to be supported when using as a PC headset.
Unless PSVR2 somehow becomes a lot cheaper it won’t move many units on the PC market.
Horseganador
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With Mochizuki it is better to wait because with Sony he lies more than he talks.
cireza
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They have been demonstrating they don't know how to support a secondary product pretty much since the days of the PSP. They need to stop or be serious about it, but it requires understanding the targeted market which they were never able to achieve.
Winter John
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No bc
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No point
No pc
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No point
UltimaKilo
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There’s a near zero chance of that happening so long as Gabe Newell is there.
Chuck Berry
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….berg
ArtHands
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Quest Massively Outsold PSVR 2 Over the 2023 Holiday
Judging by sales volume on Amazon, Quest 2 & Quest 3 massively outsold PSVR 2 during the 2023 holiday season. Tracking Quest 2, Quest 3, and PSVR 2 sales volume on Amazon US gives strong evidence that Quest headsets did quite well this holiday season, while PSVR 2 saw concerningly low sales...
www.roadtovr.com
PSVR2 sold like 3.2% compare to Quest 2 and 3 (on Amazon US) while shipping 25% of Quest 2 & 3’s volumes.
RoadHazard
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Maybe they should make some games for it. But of course, they don't want to waste resources making games for hardware that isn't selling. And why isn't it selling? Because they're not making games for it that would make people want to buy it. Hmm hmm.
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