Philanthropist
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Spielberg movies are not included in the Paramount HD-DVD exclusive deal, which means they'll come to Blu-ray whenever they want to release them.
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Boon to the PS3? Warner Bros goes Blu-Ray
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George Claw M.D.
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Nice pic and cool tag. Your reputation precedes you. Really, though, this pic shows that the jump to HD really is greater than many believe. When people talk about how the jump to DVD was so much greater, they're confusing resolution increase with the quality increase that came from going digital. Also, as has been stated, before, the resolution increase will be more noticeable the larger the display gets.Beatbox said:
The "Wow" factor is clearly greater and larger.
As for whether the recent turn of events is a boon to PS3, I say, no doubt. While the PS3 is no longer the cheapest(yet best) option for a Blu-ray player, those still wanting it for its gaming capabilities have even more incentive to get one, now.
InterMoniker
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You make no sense and sound like a whinny little kid.urk said:
DVD's are going to outlast HD-DVD Believe it! You can still buy DVD's when Blu-ray takes over it's alright. I saw a lot of commercials for DVD/Blu-ray so you'll still be able to get DVDs but I don't see HD-Dvd lasting much longer.
No ones stopping you from watching the HD-dvd's that are out now and coming out for a little while longer.
It's possible but comments like yours are generally more indicative of someone who knows less about the game library in question than they claim. We all look forward to the day you actually get a PS3 and discover games you didn't even realize existed.Rand al Thor 19 said:
No_Style said:
Wow, some people really are a little too worked up about certain things. So he phrased it a little badly, my god people, what is this? Gamefaqs? So far the discussion here has been pretty rational and civilized, which is a miracle in itself. Don't start with inane drivel like this and try to badmouth anyone who isn't complying to what you like more.
He already rephrased himself, let him be.
SolidSnakex
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Davidion said:
Especially since many people did by HDDVD players during Christmas due to the price. So if they could atleast trade in any WB movies they bought for the same movie in BR it'd be a nice way of making sure this whole thing ends as quick as many want it to. And it helps get rid of the bad blood that might be there from some consumers for feeling like they'd been screwed over.
Beer Monkey
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urk said:
:lol
As a format-neutral supporter, I'm just hoping to see the Star Trek Original Series Season 1 set to hit a firesale. I've no problem buying a few more HD-DVDs if the price is right.
Rand al Thor 19
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kaching said:
Is this a joke??? Go look at the neogaf Xbox 360 leaderboard and then come back here and tell me that I don't know what games are out and coming out for the 360 and PS3.
topsyturvy
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so umm, will this push ps3 sells this year.....?
Xisiqomelir
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Beatbox said:
The "Wow" factor is clearly greater and larger.
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natureman3
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Something like that will happen. standard excahnge for a small fee between HD-DVD and Blu-ray version of the same movie.gofreak said:
it could save a lot a customers that already adopted HD.
urk said:
:lol Oddly enough, DVD might see a much longer lifespan going forward than HD-DVD. We'll see.
SolidSnakex said:
Well, I see it more as being able to do some good for consumers and use that to springboard the message of BD while they have an upper hand. Honestly, even if consumer were pissed, they'd have no single corporation to focus that anger on and there isn't a single particular entity that would have all that much to lose. But that's just me being pragmatic.
Psychotext
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Or perhaps talking about the more meaningful changes involving menus, chapters, minimal degradation per use, no more rewind, perfect stills etc etc etc. The resolution increase was a tiny part of the difference between DVD and VHS.George Claw M.D. said:
BenjaminBirdie said:
First off, calm the fuck down partner. Let's forget mass market for a sec (because what they find to be acceptable isn't the best barometer for what's "quality") and look at what we have here.
DVD quality from an objective standpoint is decent (at least today). Suffering a bit from the move to fixed pixel displays. However, a well-mastered DVD still holds up well to a lot of the "good" fucking quality HD broadcast you're so adamant about backing. Usually, these HDTV movies are adequate at best, and a mess at worst (only getting worse as tv size and quality increases). That's not that kind of upgrade I want over my DVD collection. HD-DVD and BD are. Until we can get THAT kind of quality through my cable provider, than fuck off with that DD bullshit.
Again, resolution is one thing, but delivering these HD movies at bitrate-starved levels is not "good" fucking quality. Adequate for you and the mass market that don't take this whole HD thing as seriously, fine. Just don't make it more than what it is.
topsyturvy
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not with a standard def tv it is. :/B-Ri said:
Pristine_Condition
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beermonkey@tehbias said:
Um, I've got a serious question about that. Honestly, I'm not trying to snark it up or anything...
Are those discs in HD? I mean, was the original series filmed and scanned, or videotaped and somehow upscaled and processed?
Tell me what the deal is with this collection and why you would want it in an HD format. I honestly don't know anything about this release, other than it's on the shelves, and I am curious what it offers over the DVD set. I'm not much of a fan of the original series, but I have a buddy who is avid.
Oh brother... this is such a lame line.B-Ri said:
Choke on the Magic
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Philanthropist said:
Didn't know that, but it's good to know that it won't be delayed. Can't wait for May 22nd.
B-Ri said:
Dude, why are people so upset? I see nothing crazy about what Xavien posted. In fact, I recently watched the 300 DVD upscaled to 1080p on my buddies Samsung Blu-ray player (61" Samsung LED DLP set) and it looks fucking incredible. I bet I could walk 100 people in there and 95 or more wouldn't be able to tell the difference between it and the legit HD counterpart. What is there isn't worth replacing a DVD catalog over.
And what he's saying about the move from tape media to digital is also 100% accurate. It was a huge technological leap that required nothing more than the player and content. Blu-ray and HD-DVD don't offer anything anywhere near the technological updates DVD did and they require new, expensive television sets most people don't own in order to see any benefit whatsoever. That's not saying they don't offer any improvements or that the resolution increase isn't great for the tiny fraction of people with capable sets, but it's really nowhere near the jump that VHS to DVD was. Not even close. Not in the same ballpark, on the same planet, in the same universe.
Also, this thread isn't about gaming at all is it?
Pristine_Condition said:
Yeah, why would anyone buy anything HD, if they have no means of watching it properly? It makes no sense at all, and they should've stuck with the regular DVD to begin with. The discussion we are having is not regarding the use of an SD-TV, why would you if you plan to back a certain High-Def format.
If you have the means and finances to buy an early HD-DVD player as an early adoper, and a crapload of movies to begin with, you can also afford an HD-TV.
Crayon
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Somewhere.... a nerd is literally sobbing over it right now.
Hundreds of them are never going to sign into their favorite forum again. Maybe under a different name later on...
Seriously, check yourself. If you are feeling a twinge of a "broken heart" over this news, then you are just a...
ATTENTION SAD LITTLE MAN:
You are into your toys and have been playing a little game that is not too different than fantasy football. Some of you won, some of you lost. Now it's over so you should take a second to laugh at yourself and be a good loser, even a bit of a gentleman, instead of burying us sane people all up to our asses in bitter tears and sour grapes.
Hundreds of them are never going to sign into their favorite forum again. Maybe under a different name later on...
Seriously, check yourself. If you are feeling a twinge of a "broken heart" over this news, then you are just a...
ATTENTION SAD LITTLE MAN:
You are into your toys and have been playing a little game that is not too different than fantasy football. Some of you won, some of you lost. Now it's over so you should take a second to laugh at yourself and be a good loser, even a bit of a gentleman, instead of burying us sane people all up to our asses in bitter tears and sour grapes.
Beer Monkey
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Pristine_Condition said:
The Original Series was shot and produced on 35mm film (just like, you know, most movies), so you can scan it into a variety of video formats including high-definition.
By contrast, the produced episodes of The Next Generation only exist as standard-definition 480i video. The earlier seasons don't even exist in component analog video source, only composite Betacam analog video.
BluRay is the better technology, period. It is capable of storing movies that support the highest resolution supported by the new generation of tvs (which will last decades thanks to broadcasters). I believe that even when deep color tvs come out, there is enough capacity to fit it all on a single disc (I think all BD players can read quad-layered discs (100GB). Fuck HD-DVD. It's inferior capacity doomed it from the start. This is storage, and fancy menus mean shit for that. I've been dancing on HD-DVD's grave before a disc was ever stamped. PEACE.watership said:The HD-DVD group was indeed devastated by this announcement. And really Warner should have announced this better. Right After Christmas? Right before CES? Ouch ouch ouch. I'm actually really bitter about the fact that Blu-ray is winning, because it's my opinion that the Blu-ray group has caused this whole format war in the first place. And I still think that interactive features of HD-DVD far outweigh Blu-Ray's terrible BD-java.
This really sets the stage for the NEXT format war though. Because there is going to be one, since every attempt to avoid one this time failed. And It so bugs me that everyone thinks that HD-DVD is the kid who should have given up early and gone home when it really was the right choice. DVD-forum was founded to avoid future format wars by allow companies to come together with technology and ideas to avoid the format wars that plagued the 70s and 80s. DVD came out of that group, as did HD-DVD. Despite the DVD Forum's efforts to avoid a format war and broker a single format under HD-DVD, Blu-Ray split off and we were left with the mess of the past 2 and 1/2 years.
However, if you own a PS3 you're feeling pretty good right now.
Update: Let me amend this comment with saying that if the format war is now over and blu-ray is the winner, lets just move one and accept it. But I still blame Sony.
BenjaminBirdie
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B-Ri said:
Which does nothing to respond to the critical part of his post:
This is the main hurdle between Blu-Ray and the Mainstream. It was never HD-DVD.
Feel to take that as a response to this:
Pimpwerx said:
...as well.
Pristine_Condition
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beermonkey@tehbias said:
Cool! Thanks for the info.
blu-ray players require HDTVs, but no ones going out to buy blu-ray players WITHOUT an HDTV.
People are buying HDTVs, why? they want HD content. Whats the natural progression? Well once you spend all that cashload on an HDTV youre going to feed it SD content?
Guys, its a natural progression, as much as a VHS tape to DVD was a technological leap, so its the quality and storage differences in a blu-ray disc.
Stop stop stop damage controlling this. Just because blu-ray won there is NOOOO need to try and downplay it now.
What i wonder is if your stance on HD Media discs was the same while the war was still on going.
People are buying HDTVs, why? they want HD content. Whats the natural progression? Well once you spend all that cashload on an HDTV youre going to feed it SD content?
Guys, its a natural progression, as much as a VHS tape to DVD was a technological leap, so its the quality and storage differences in a blu-ray disc.
Stop stop stop damage controlling this. Just because blu-ray won there is NOOOO need to try and downplay it now.
What i wonder is if your stance on HD Media discs was the same while the war was still on going.
B-Ri said:
How 'bout before you go calling everyone who doesn't agree with you a liar, you read the fucking post. I clearly stated visible differences existed. You're the one being disingenuous.
Believe whatever you want. You've clearly made up your mind. There's really no point discussing it with you.
And I didn't buy either format, because I could see this kinda "fuck the old consumer right up the poopshoot" move coming from a million light years out. For that reason, I've stuck to digital downloads for almost all of my HD movie consumption and I'm more than happy with that.
My point is simply that most consumers are not going to see the chasm of difference between DVD and Blu-ray. Hell, there are STILL people watching VHS. HD adoption is picking up, but it's nowhere near mainstream yet and it won't be for several more years. Blu-ray is nice if you're looking for the elite home movie experience. No doubt. But it's not going to sell tens of millions of Playstation 3's. I think that's clear to anyone without clouded vision.
And with that, I'm out. Boon.
urk said:
consumers wont see the difference?
of course they will. When they go get their shiny TVs at best buy, their going to get upsold and informed on HD media.
When they go home and plug it in, see SD content and call their cable provider for HD service, theyll see a difference.
When they watch TV and see commercials marketing true high def picture on blu-ray, and go in store to see the difference, theyll see the difference.
Guys, stop it.
Choke on the Magic
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CcrooK said:
It better because it becomes standard in 2010.
Feral Youth
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topsyturvy said:
Will it push these?
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130747
*Shrugs*
Not just Ps3's that can have Blu-Ray.
Choke on the Magic
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B-Ri said:
I understand a lot of people who invested in the other format are upset, but why are some starting to make claims that there's little difference between dvd and bd? It's not like dvd's are going anywhere anytime soon.
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