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[darkangel-212559]

I loved it.
The Daughter was just as great and she didn't feel shoe-horned in just to score woke points, which was one of my biggest worries. But it's a fun little father daughter bonding trip done well and most importantly is funny.
Surprisingly, one of my favourite bits was when he was talking to the old Jewish ladies. Sudden out of nowhere wholesome.

Would recommend.

I haven't got to that part yet, but as the token Jew on this thread I have to say that I think it's great that Borat is tackling Holocaust Denial, as they are holocaust survivors right? One of the ladies knew it was for a film and wanted to do it to educate the next generation.

Also 2) The language Borat and his daughter speaks is a mix of Hebrew and Yiddish. It's brilliant.

 

[TrainedRage]

Not sure why you watched it when you knew what to expect.

I thought it was hilarious, as a longtime fan of Sasha and his characters.

Eh. Wanted to give it a chance but it just didn’t have what the first one did. It felt uninspired and entirely over produced. Some parts made me chuckle but much of it was pretty cringe and old hat.

 

[Orta]

Was very funny in parts, the clearly scripted stuff that was presented as hidden footage was poor though and the preachy conclusion left a sour taste.

Worth a watch just for his daughter's scenes. She stole the show.

As for Guilliani, looked as if he genuinely was tucking his shirt in but he absolutely came across as a dirty old man who thought he'd hit the jackpot with a starstruck 'dumb' foreign girl.

 

[Madevil]

The first time i saw borat was in the ali g show..is the same actor?

Yup.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

An hour in, it's got some great moments but is not as good as the first so far.

 

[Nikana]

Sad to say I'm bout 40 min in and I'm pretty bored with it so far.

 

[JimiNutz]

It was ok.
Obviously not as funny as the first but I watched it with a few other people and we all laughed at least a few times.

I think 'Who is America' did a better job of mocking America though.

 

[Nikana]

Picks up in the second half for me. It was ok. I liked the ending

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

LOLled hard at the pregnancy clinic scene and the fertility dance. Also that fucking manual

A little less funny than the first maybe, but even if it’s scripted in parts, I laughed a lot.

 

[Grinchy]

I liked it. I thought there were a lot of funny scenes, though maybe not "laugh out loud" funny the whole way through. Some of it is just funny in a more subtle way.

It didn't feel lazy to me at all. Compare this to the Bill and Ted movie where Keanu was just woken up from a nap before every one-take scene. A lot of planning and work went into this even if it did feature less of the unscripted moments than the first one.

The daughter broke character a handful of times, but it was all good. The Rudy scene wasn't the big explosive ending it was promoted to be, but hey, they must have felt some desperation to get some press on this since it just ended up being a streaming movie.

 

[Starfield]

i loved the part with Tom Hanks knowing that he was one of the first celebs who got infected lmao.

Nice one Tom Hanks, nice one

 

[888]

I got a bunch of laughs out of it. They had to go the more scripted route because everyone knows him now. They spent a little too much time on the daughter and I would have liked a little more borat himself but it was pretty good.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

God, this was absolutely fucking terrible. Almost none of it was composed of the interview segments that made the first movie so good, and what little there was wasn't particularly funny. Like, the humor from the first movie and the TV show was Borat getting random people to say some outrageous shit, and keep egging them on as it gets progressively more awkward. Here, it's all or nothing. It's either completely tame, or just Borat and his daughter doing something completely ridiculous all on their own while people watch in horror. Everything outside of those segments was universally bad. Cohen wasn't even in character for most of it, and waaaay too much of it was focused Borat's daughter.

I dunno. It's just... kind of a depressing movie. It makes you realize how far we've fallen culturally.

 

[Alter_Fridge]

Funny how everyone in the ResetEra thread is all '11/10 died laughing' and everyone here is like 'pretty meh'

 

[Thickandblack]

Funny how everyone in the ResetEra thread is all '11/10 died laughing' and everyone here is like 'pretty meh'

Weird, they liked all the Jew hating, racism and homophobic parts?

Anyways, movie had some funny parts, pretty much every one involved the daughter. Was not even 10 percent as funny as the first one. Think it would have been much better if he didn't make it so political.

Wish he would do a Bruno sequel as that was better then any of his other ones, it was amazing.

 

[cryptoadam]

Wow hat a difference 14 years makes. So sad to see actually. I remember the first Borat I was crying from laughter.

Calling Trump McDonald was probably the best gag in the whole movie. Sashas Borat felt really lazy and he wasn't in it that much. Also the whole theme of the movie with him doing interviews is lost since its clear that everyone is on it/an actor since he doesn't have the excuse of being a reporter for why he has cameras with him.

My main gripe is the movie seems really mean spirited. Ok it wants to be a coming of age father daughter story, but why is it wrapped up in so much misogyny? It was funny that Borat comes from a backwards country, but felt like the went overboard with keeping his daughter in a cage and treating her like a dog. Maybe I am getting old but I just found it offensive not funny. I thought the daughter was ok not as bad as the 2 in B&T, but she didn't really bring anything to the movie and it wasn't something I wanted out of a Borat or SBC movie.

I mean its better than some of the other decade later sequels out there, but ya overall just not funny, not in the spirit of the first one, and just a mean spirited movie.

 

[belmarduk]

I loved this movie much more than I was expecting to. Even Rudy Giuliani is a SBC fan.

 

[cryptoadam]

TBH should of made a movie about him being an old Jewish guy trying to reconnect with an estranged daughter because that seems like the story he wanted to tell and half the movie he was slipping in and out of a hebrew accent.

 

[Anki]

Also 2) The language Borat and his daughter speaks is a mix of Hebrew and Yiddish. It's brilliant.

not really, the girl is speaking Bulgarian language, I dont know about Borat.

 

[Schattenjäger]

fell asleep halfway.. not sure if it’s a reflection of my tastes (big fan of original) or the movie.. will try again tomorrow
but the Trump Melania cartoon was hilarious

 

[buizel]

Wow hat a difference 14 years makes. So sad to see actually. I remember the first Borat I was crying from laughter.

Calling Trump McDonald was probably the best gag in the whole movie. Sashas Borat felt really lazy and he wasn't in it that much. Also the whole theme of the movie with him doing interviews is lost since its clear that everyone is on it/an actor since he doesn't have the excuse of being a reporter for why he has cameras with him.

My main gripe is the movie seems really mean spirited. Ok it wants to be a coming of age father daughter story, but why is it wrapped up in so much misogyny? It was funny that Borat comes from a backwards country, but felt like the went overboard with keeping his daughter in a cage and treating her like a dog. Maybe I am getting old but I just found it offensive not funny. I thought the daughter was ok not as bad as the 2 in B&T, but she didn't really bring anything to the movie and it wasn't something I wanted out of a Borat or SBC movie.

I mean its better than some of the other decade later sequels out there, but ya overall just not funny, not in the spirit of the first one, and just a mean spirited movie.

Yeah but i think it plays on that fact, because the daughter is super ecstatic to buy a cage, and really wants to go in the cage; Borats giving his daughter what she wants... even though its sorta messed up lol. And she's not in the cage for hardly any of the film.

The worst thing I thought was Borats 14 year labour at the start ): Thats sad. I also don't like mean-spirited ness.

And i never really find suicide jokes funny, but the one at the start with the guy jumping off their tallest building and then immediately getting up and walking away got a chuckle out of me.

random ali g


the thing is, the old ali g has seth rogen and evan goldberg as writers, and alot of that show isn't just trying to get people in 'gotcha' moments (though plenty of it) ; theres a lot of just absurd situations that are hilarious and spiral out of control

I will say this film made me sad at certain situations, like that dog bowl bit - the womens sympathy and heart musta broken. Though im skeptical of the realness of a lot of it, im told alot is so idk.. still i prefer the funny and outlandish; compared to the sad reflection of s o c i e t y

 

[cryptoadam]

Yeah but i think it plays on that fact, because the daughter is super ecstatic to buy a cage, and really wants to go in the cage; Borats giving his daughter what she wants... even though its sorta messed up lol. And she's not in the cage for hardly any of the film.

The worst thing I thought was Borats 14 year labour at the start ): Thats sad. I also don't like mean-spirited ness.

And i never really find suicide jokes funny, but the one at the start with the guy jumping off their tallest building and then immediately getting up and walking away got a chuckle out of me.

random ali g


the thing is, the old ali g has seth rogen and evan goldberg as writers, and alot of that show isn't just trying to get people in 'gotcha' moments (though plenty of it) ; theres a lot of just absurd situations that are hilarious and spiral out of control

I will say this film made me sad at certain situations, like that dog bowl bit - the womens sympathy and heart musta broken. Though im skeptical of the realness of a lot of it, im told alot is so idk.. still i prefer the funny and outlandish; compared to the sad reflection of s o c i e t y

I don't know the whole movie was really just mean spirited and changed the borat character, and its the reason why I think he was in costume most of the time to not associate Borat with this move as much as possible.

Borat in the first movie had a naive innocence to him. Ya he was a bit racist, but thats because he came from a former soviet country stuck in the 1980s.

In this movie he literally puts his daughter in a cage walks her with a leash and gives her treats. He has a manual that tells her her pussy will eat her and that she can't do anything for herself.

Its a far leap from naive fish out of water coming to America, and just a mean spirited psychopath. We can laugh at a guy singing throw the Jew down the well because its over the top funny, but a guy giving his daughter treats like she is a dog thats not really "funny". Kills Borat for me. He isn't a naive guy trying to learn the ways of America. He is a psychopath who has 0 care for the opposite sex and things they aren't even human.

and BTW, the entire movie is scripted. The Pence and Rudy stuff isn't scripted (but heavily edited) but pretty much everything else is scripted and actors. The black women was not some random black women, she was part of the movie. Same with is 2 buddies, and the plastic surgeon and the priest/doctor.

Thats why they should of just made the movie scripted and dropped the costume stuff. Its already 90% scripted so just go full bore and forget about having SBC not being Borat for most of the movie. Borat is probably in the movie for what 15 or 20 minutes?

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Yeah but i think it plays on that fact, because the daughter is super ecstatic to buy a cage, and really wants to go in the cage; Borats giving his daughter what she wants... even though its sorta messed up lol. And she's not in the cage for hardly any of the film.

The worst thing I thought was Borats 14 year labour at the start ): Thats sad. I also don't like mean-spirited ness.

And i never really find suicide jokes funny, but the one at the start with the guy jumping off their tallest building and then immediately getting up and walking away got a chuckle out of me.

random ali g


the thing is, the old ali g has seth rogen and evan goldberg as writers, and alot of that show isn't just trying to get people in 'gotcha' moments (though plenty of it) ; theres a lot of just absurd situations that are hilarious and spiral out of control

I will say this film made me sad at certain situations, like that dog bowl bit - the womens sympathy and heart musta broken. Though im skeptical of the realness of a lot of it, im told alot is so idk.. still i prefer the funny and outlandish; compared to the sad reflection of s o c i e t y

Ok, so it's not just me. That clip is what I remember Sacha Baron Cohen's stuff being like. It's funny. Really funny.

This movie was just trash.

 

[Piku_Ringo]

So far the Bullrat 2 is not too bad of a film and I laugh at the Trump Disney animation parody too.

 

[A.Romero]

I thought it was pretty good. Not as good as the first one but still really funny.

I don't care if a lot of it was scripted. Still it showed an interesting reflection on many hot topics today. It was pretty well written in my opinion and a lot of the jokes were spot on.

SBC is a pretty smart guy and I think he does some of the best social critique today. For example the section with the 2 ladies in the synagogue: the funny part is that Borat couldn't even see the kindness he was being shown but he was happy nevertheless because the Holocaust was proven real. That's pretty funny and still says a lot about how flawed humanity is.

 

[Malakhov]

Just tried to watch this and stopped at the fertility dance, what a waste of time. This ain't Borat, this is shite

 

[WoJ]

I've always found Sasha Baron Cohen to be an unfunny waste of oxygen. He has never made me laugh once. In grad school some of my classmates picked Borat as the movie to watch one night when we were hanging out. I didn't laugh once during the whole movie. It was just uninspired trash.

I would rather die in a fire than watch 1 second of this movie.

 

[JonSnowball]

I've always found Sasha Baron Cohen to be an unfunny waste of oxygen. He has never made me laugh once. In grad school some of my classmates picked Borat as the movie to watch one night when we were hanging out. I didn't laugh once during the whole movie. It was just uninspired trash.

I would rather die in a fire than watch 1 second of this movie.

Maybe Bruno is more your style.

 

[TaySan]

Finished it this afternoon and loved it! Not as great as the original and they will never be able to match that since everyone already knows Borat, but the man is an expert at his craft.

 

[Chittagong]

Watched this tonight, fun film but all the best stuff was in the trailer.

And Maria Bakalova is smoking hot.

 

[RavenSan]

Oof -- I did not really care for it. It was all waaaay too scripted, and not enough interaction with real people. I like the "hidden camera reaction" stuff. I only genuinely laughed like, 3 or maybe 4 times the entire movie. A 4 out of 10 at best.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

not really, the girl is speaking Bulgarian language, I dont know about Borat.

darkangel-212559 is right at least about Borat.

Even since the first film they mentioned this. Plus, of course, Cohen himself is Jewish.

My Yiddish is limited because I'm a terrible Jew but I do recognize a few things he says.

Bummed to hear how crappy the movie is. I loved the first one.

 

[Leopold]

Actually Borat does not speak any Yiddish, it is straight-up Hebrew all the time - the subtitles often have a different translation though.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Just finished watching it, I’m disappointed as I thought there was a lot of potential in the father/daughter plot but none of it really hit the mark imo.

Compared to the first film which kept the same rawness as the TV stuff before it, this lacked it in abundance and it felt flat. I understand it’s difficult to repeat the unknown “who’s this guy” aspect, so being in various disguises had potential but none of it was all that funny to me and for the most part it was chore and I’m someone who enjoyed the farce of Borat right from his debut on the 11 o’clock show on UK TV all those years ago.

:-(

 

[Rentahamster]

The fertility dance.....rofl

Holy shit I just got to that part

 

[Alter_Fridge]

25 minutes in and this is.. not good

It's like a bad parody of Borat. He doesn't even keep the same mispronunciations and unnecessary plurals and he's the creator of Borat

Hasn't been one clever gag yet. Worse than I expected

Kinda like when Always Sunny got super forced and unfunny. Super cringe

Shame since peak Sacha and peak Sunny are peak comedy

 

[12Goblins]

Thought there was a few amusing segments, overall I think Borat is pretty lame. I like how they incorporate real stuff into the "story line" but that's about it

Shit had nothing on Who is America?, which was God like

 

[Forsythia]

I liked it, but it clearly isn't as good as the first one. Too much scripted stuff.

 

[cryptoadam]

McDonald Trump was probably the best and funniest joke in the whole movie.

 

[DKehoe]

Watched it today. Had some good parts but overall a little uneven.

The guy valuing Borat's daughter at $500 and his daughter telling him he's fucking gross was great.

 

[Stuart360]

I liked it overall, and a couple of parts honestly cracked me up. Its not as good as the first film, but it was never going to be.
One part i didnt appreciate was the Giuliani part. He's obviously tucking in his shirt, but the film made it look like something different. Not a very nice thing to do with someones reputation, whether you like Giuliani or not.

 

[A.Romero]

I liked it overall, and a couple of parts honestly cracked me up. Its not as good as the first film, but it was never going to be.
One part i didnt appreciate was the Giuliani part. He's obviously tucking in his shirt, but the film made it look like something different. Not a very nice thing to do with someones reputation, whether you like Giuliani or not.

Yes, he was probably tucking his shirt. However, it's pretty obvious that the guy was very receptive to the flirting. He was entrapped into it but at least he was going along. An adult who is not willing simply doesn't go into the bedroom with the girl. We all know that nowadays it is enough to be accused to be dragged by the mobs so you just have to avoid situations that could look bad. Specially celebrities. Guliani is not stupid, I think he took the chance because he thought he was gonna score. Also, the way he leaves immediately once SBC gets into the room clearly shows that he knew he got into something risky and shit hit the fan.

 

[cryptoadam]

Yes, he was probably tucking his shirt. However, it's pretty obvious that the guy was very receptive to the flirting. He was entrapped into it but at least he was going along. An adult who is not willing simply doesn't go into the bedroom with the girl. We all know that nowadays it is enough to be accused to be dragged by the mobs so you just have to avoid situations that could look bad. Specially celebrities. Guliani is not stupid, I think he took the chance because he thought he was gonna score. Also, the way he leaves immediately once SBC gets into the room clearly shows that he knew he got into something risky and shit hit the fan.

Dont forget the scene was highly edited and we don't know why Guliani went into the room. The way Sasha edited it, it looks like its because Rudy wanted to get some but we have no idea why or their conversation as to why they decided to take off each others mics.

Also keep in mind in Kayfabe the girl WANTS TO HAVE SEX with Rudy. In the movie the plan is for her to sleep with Rudy and then live in a golden cage. Borat even goes into the room and tells her not to it and she says I want to. So the whole point of this scene was to set Rudy up. I am sure when Sasha went into the room as a sound guy its because the interview wasn't going anywhere so he was giving her the signal to step it up.

And another thing, from when he goes in as the sound guy, and then he runs into the room half naked is about what 90 seconds in the movie, but how did he get half naked and changed into the lingerie so fast? Oh because it was probably a lot longer between and the movie was highly edited.

Here is a scene with Ron Paul with the same kind of set up. Notice they say there is an issue with the light, get Ron into a room with a bed and no chairs. Ron sits down and then Sasha drops his pants trying to entrap him in some sort of sexually compromising position



Seems like the same set up going on here. Have Rudy go into the room for some reason, no chairs so where does Rudy sit? the bed of course and then next thing you know Sasha hits his punch line.

 

[A.Romero]

Dont forget the scene was highly edited and we don't know why Guliani went into the room. The way Sasha edited it, it looks like its because Rudy wanted to get some but we have no idea why or their conversation as to why they decided to take off each others mics.

Also keep in mind in Kayfabe the girl WANTS TO HAVE SEX with Rudy. In the movie the plan is for her to sleep with Rudy and then live in a golden cage. Borat even goes into the room and tells her not to it and she says I want to. So the whole point of this scene was to set Rudy up. I am sure when Sasha went into the room as a sound guy its because the interview wasn't going anywhere so he was giving her the signal to step it up.

And another thing, from when he goes in as the sound guy, and then he runs into the room half naked is about what 90 seconds in the movie, but how did he get half naked and changed into the lingerie so fast? Oh because it was probably a lot longer between and the movie was highly edited.

Here is a scene with Ron Paul with the same kind of set up. Notice they say there is an issue with the light, get Ron into a room with a bed and no chairs. Ron sits down and then Sasha drops his pants trying to entrap him in some sort of sexually compromising position



Seems like the same set up going on here. Have Rudy go into the room for some reason, no chairs so where does Rudy sit? the bed of course and then next thing you know Sasha hits his punch line.

I'm aware of all that. Whatever reason there is for moving into the bedroom it's obviously not to continue the interview. There are no cameras or crewmen there and they are carrying their drinks. I know what the character's intentions are but to Giuliani it was just a girl that had a crush on him. She flirted heavily and he participated and allowed it to escalate. In the video you posted Ron Paul declines the drink. He is doing everything he can to keep it professional. Giuliani constantly smiles back to the girl. Ron Paul avoids eye contact and looks clearly uncomfortable. I'd guess that if it was Bruno instead of the girl, Giuliani would have behaved similarly to Ron Paul because he wouldn't have been interested at all.

My point being that Giuliani can't be as stupid as not to know that getting into a hotel's bedroom with a girl who obviously is into him is a huge risk for a person of his stature. He decided to take the risk and I doubt it was just because he really wanted to talk about how well Trump handled the pandemic.

That said, I realize that all they did was not in good faith and they wanted it to happen just like that or worse. Not cool but Giuliani at least enjoyed the attention.

 

[Stuart360]

The bedroom was also right next to where they were filming the interview, you can actually see it in the background. To me she was just taking his mic off, and he's an older guy with a bit of weight on him, and he just lent back to tuck his shirt in.
Thats how i saw it anyway.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Honesty, who gives a shit if Rudy wanted to fuck a hot reporter?

 

[cryptoadam]

I'm aware of all that. Whatever reason there is for moving into the bedroom it's obviously not to continue the interview. There are no cameras or crewmen there and they are carrying their drinks. I know what the character's intentions are but to Giuliani it was just a girl that had a crush on him. She flirted heavily and he participated and allowed it to escalate. In the video you posted Ron Paul declines the drink. He is doing everything he can to keep it professional. Giuliani constantly smiles back to the girl. Ron Paul avoids eye contact and looks clearly uncomfortable. I'd guess that if it was Bruno instead of the girl, Giuliani would have behaved similarly to Ron Paul because he wouldn't have been interested at all.

My point being that Giuliani can't be as stupid as not to know that getting into a hotel's bedroom with a girl who obviously is into him is a huge risk for a person of his stature. He decided to take the risk and I doubt it was just because he really wanted to talk about how well Trump handled the pandemic.

That said, I realize that all they did was not in good faith and they wanted it to happen just like that or worse. Not cool but Giuliani at least enjoyed the attention.

I will say it is possible Rudy was interested in something further, but we can't take the editing at face value. For all we know someone could of told Rudy go into the room to take off your mic we have to clean something up in here and it wasn't included in the film. The quick part where they say lets have a drink is clearly ADRd so we don't even know when that is said.

My point is we can't take the sequence of events at face value and interpret that Rudy went in the room to get laid. We don't know what prompted going into the room, or why they decided to help each other remove their mics. Even the part where he asks her number and address looks ADRd to me and may not even have been said when they were in the room together.

Put it this way, if she said he lets go into the other room to get our mics off they have to remove the lights and stuff in here we need to give them space. Then they get in there and she says help me with my mic I will help you and just grab a seat on the bed if your a little tired. Then what would you think?

And in the end I don't see the big deal if he thought maybe something could happen, and the girl was for sure putting the signals out there. Rudy is a single man, him wanting to have relations with a young attractive women who wants to have sex with him isn't a scandal or illegal.

But in the end we don't know if that was his intention at all and he could simply have been taking off his mic and being a 76 year old man getting up and down probably isn't his forte. It comes off as creepy because its manipulated to be that way and the media is trying to play it up.

But I guess in the end in this day and age if you are a well known person going anywhere with a women alone is asking for trouble because then it becomes your word against theirs and any slight hint at something inappropriate is enough to cast you as a rapist who wants to turn every women into a cum dumpster sex slave. Sucks we have to live in a society where at any turn someone can turn around and take an intimate moment and turn it into a revenge gotcha to ruin your life.

 

[A.Romero]

The bedroom was also right next to where they were filming the interview, you can actually see it in the background. To me she was just taking his mic off, and he's an older guy with a bit of weight on him, and he just lent back to tuck his shirt in.
Thats how i saw it anyway.

Yes, this is true. I don't think he was masturbating or anything. I think he liked the girl and that't it.

Honesty, who gives a shit if Rudy wanted to fuck a hot reporter?

Well, if there was nothing wrong with it he could have come out and said "she was a beautiful reporter and I thought she wanted to have a good time with me so I allowed it to happen", instead he is denying any unprofessional intentions from his behavior.

I'm not sure if he knew she was supposed to be underage or not.

I will say it is possible Rudy was interested in something further, but we can't take the editing at face value. For all we know someone could of told Rudy go into the room to take off your mic we have to clean something up in here and it wasn't included in the film. The quick part where they say lets have a drink is clearly ADRd so we don't even know when that is said.

My point is we can't take the sequence of events at face value and interpret that Rudy went in the room to get laid. We don't know what prompted going into the room, or why they decided to help each other remove their mics. Even the part where he asks her number and address looks ADRd to me and may not even have been said when they were in the room together.

Put it this way, if she said he lets go into the other room to get our mics off they have to remove the lights and stuff in here we need to give them space. Then they get in there and she says help me with my mic I will help you and just grab a seat on the bed if your a little tired. Then what would you think?

And in the end I don't see the big deal if he thought maybe something could happen, and the girl was for sure putting the signals out there. Rudy is a single man, him wanting to have relations with a young attractive women who wants to have sex with him isn't a scandal or illegal.

But in the end we don't know if that was his intention at all and he could simply have been taking off his mic and being a 76 year old man getting up and down probably isn't his forte. It comes off as creepy because its manipulated to be that way and the media is trying to play it up.

But I guess in the end in this day and age if you are a well known person going anywhere with a women alone is asking for trouble because then it becomes your word against theirs and any slight hint at something inappropriate is enough to cast you as a rapist who wants to turn every women into a cum dumpster sex slave. Sucks we have to live in a society where at any turn someone can turn around and take an intimate moment and turn it into a revenge gotcha to ruin your life.

Yes, it is unfortunate that people need to keep in mind that most likely everyone would believe the girl when nothing happened. It's a sad collateral product of extra awareness of stuff that does happen sometimes.

I agree we can't know for sure because of the editing. In my opinion he wanted to get laid and there is nothing wrong with that (unless he knew the girl was supposed to be 15). That said, Giuliani is not any guy. I don't think a person with that amount of responsibility can take those kinds of risks. I mean, it just goes with the job. Imagine it was a foreign agent and wanted to get something on him to shake him down regarding something important. He enjoyed the attention evidently and it makes me feel empathetic to him because most people would have felt and reacted in a similar way. I don't think it's creepy or anything like that because the girl is clearly leading him on (unless he knew she was supposed to be 15, of course).

I'm not American so I have no particular position regarding the parties but I think when you have a position of power like that you have to be much more careful than if you didn't and he failed. That's the only part it would worry me if he had a similar position in my country.

 

[cryptoadam]

Yes, this is true. I don't think he was masturbating or anything. I think he liked the girl and that't it.


Well, if there was nothing wrong with it he could have come out and said "she was a beautiful reporter and I thought she wanted to have a good time with me so I allowed it to happen", instead he is denying any unprofessional intentions from his behavior.

I'm not sure if he knew she was supposed to be underage or not.


Yes, it is unfortunate that people need to keep in mind that most likely everyone would believe the girl when nothing happened. It's a sad collateral product of extra awareness of stuff that does happen sometimes.

I agree we can't know for sure because of the editing. In my opinion he wanted to get laid and there is nothing wrong with that (unless he knew the girl was supposed to be 15). That said, Giuliani is not any guy. I don't think a person with that amount of responsibility can take those kinds of risks. I mean, it just goes with the job. Imagine it was a foreign agent and wanted to get something on him to shake him down regarding something important. He enjoyed the attention evidently and it makes me feel empathetic to him because most people would have felt and reacted in a similar way. I don't think it's creepy or anything like that because the girl is clearly leading him on (unless he knew she was supposed to be 15, of course).

I'm not American so I have no particular position regarding the parties but I think when you have a position of power like that you have to be much more careful than if you didn't and he failed. That's the only part it would worry me if he had a similar position in my country.

Ya I agree about being more careful. I just think we don't know how this would of broken down. I wonder how far the actress was willing to go. She was clearly willing to take off his mic and get close to his body. If he didn't lie down and give Sasha the opening would she have taken off her clothes? Got in bed with Rudy? Started making out with him?

Thats my issue we are saying Rudy did something bad because he went into a seperate room to take off his mic, and are making the assumption that he wanted and was going to sleep with this women on the spot. Maybe he would have just finished his drink finished the interview and left. I guess we have to assume the worst based of an edited film whose whole purpose is to put Rudy in the worst light possible.

Anyways I don't think its worth wasting to much time on this set up. I won't judge Rudy based on a misleading edited film that already tried to lie about him masterbating so taking anything anyone says associated with this film at face value is not something I will do. They want to paint it as Rudy was willing to jump in the sack right away but they already lied once.

Whats not getting attention is how creepy and dirty Sasha was and how his actions are possibly criminal. He planned to trick Rudy into a sexual compromising position using a young women as bait. And he was going to film it all with hidden camera's. I dont know if I set up hidden camera's and filmed myself seducing a drunk girl and then released it to the public people would call that revenge porn. Then add in Sasha jumping out afterwards and essentially sexually assaulting Rudy as a "prank"? Some half naked guy starts screaming fuck me in my ass, I will shove my cock down your throat but its ok because its just a joke bro. Again if i went up to some chick and told her to fuck me in my ass and I will shove my cock down her throat I would probably be arrested for attempted rape, and saying its a prank bro wouldn't save my ass from picking up the soap.

Its all a prank bro, attempted rape, attempted revenge porn, attempted blackmail, its all good as long as its just a joke bro.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

not going to give this my time. but i do appreciate the irony that this raving TDS lunatic wrote a hysterical article demanding Facebook censor more people. and he got himself censored.