I'm with you, posted my review recently. It has his fair share of issues but that is the kind of thing that drives me to play those kind of RPGs. I had a similar feeling with Gothic 4. Was it perfect? No, it has some big flaws, but still its enjoyable as hell and I would totally recommend it to someone that can look past those flaws.
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Bound by Flame |OT| Free the fire
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I'm with you, posted my review recently. It has his fair share of issues but that is the kind of thing that drives me to play those kind of RPGs. I had a similar feeling with Gothic 4. Was it perfect? No, it has some big flaws, but still its enjoyable as hell and I would totally recommend it to someone that can look past those flaws.
SaiyanRaoh
Member
So is this game the new Deadly Premonition?
In the "unpolished-but-somehow-kinda-fun-turd" category?
In the "unpolished-but-somehow-kinda-fun-turd" category?
Nah the game play isn't a broken mess like Deadly Premonition. The gameplay is fine, it just doesn't do anything new and has some blemishes here and there.
That's what I thought at first, until I was seeing that there were some serious design flaws in the combat. And considering that's a good majority of the game, soured my experience.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Wow,the physical copy actually has a little instruction manual lol
Going to start this up later today.
I know, remember when games included instructions!
BONUS!AkelisRain
Member
Wow,the physical copy actually has a little instruction manual lol
Going to start this up later today.
I just opened mine up, and said the exact same thing. Worth the $50 alone for that manual!
Karak
Member
Man I didn't see anything that would come close to the level of flaw for me and I am ridiculously critical of games combat systems. On the other hand with 3 fighting styles and various upgrades and paths it doesn't surprise me that there may be one in there somewhat. That coupled with the insane difficulty you can get too.. In fact that is what turned me around on the experience.
2 Full play throughs so far and I haven't found one but I am going to play it again soon.
If I could change one thing about Bound in Flame: I would have had them add animations for times when your stats resistance means that you or your enemy don't move when hit. I hate that kind of shit.
One thing I love about Bound in Flame: Difficulty + Proper Companion use.
AkelisRain
Member
It took less than 10 secs to fully install. 0.o Although it is only 5gb~~
SlasherJPC
Banned
I think the furstration in combat strictly comes from the fact that enemies can knock you down and then hit you while your down. Which is extremely cheap admitedly. I think people that are more willing to deal with that and not get rage quit induced rage like symptoms, will most like not have as much issues with the game as other when it comes to combat problems. I mean it annoys the hell out of me and it's a stupid design, but the way combat flows and works otherwise and the brutal challenge of having to block and parry. I really, really enjoy it. This is THE surprise hit for the year so far. Admintely I had really low expectations, but I was blown away in that regard.
Neuromancer
Member
Gamefly just shipped my copy, sigh. Hopefully I get it Monday.
Karak
Member
Hmm. Ya I could see that. I mean.enemies can hit you when you are down and you can hit enemies when they are down in various games. So the actual ability for that to happen doesn't bother me so much if a game takes that into account.
I guess a fix for that would be a game that had you have the ability to defend yourself while on the ground like a sword raised above your head or something while getting up. Would be a cool mechanic.
I honestly barely got hit while on the ground or at least so little that I really didn't get angry about it. But defenseless situations suck regardless.
Yeah I noticed that a few times, where you can get hit while down. I wouldn't say I got annoyed at being hit when knocked down though. Coming straight from Dark Souls 2, it bugged me more that I couldn't roll as soon as I saw the animation for the knock down since it's unblockable, like of course you can just move out of the way, but that's a bit slow.
This game is horrible. I can see it tries, but it just comes off as annoying. The script is silly, some characters use King's English and the main character talks like he's straight out of Gears of War. I just can't get past a lot of the modern colloquialisms used in this game along side "arsehole" and "Godsdamn".
Combat is really generic and each weapon stance limits how you move so it amps up difficulty not because enemies are just that smart but because you find yourself in the wrong stance and get SMASHED on or you're waiting for your sword animation to finish.
I tried to follow the story but by the time
, I just didn't give a shit at that point. I'm debating on shelving this game right now.
Any scores over 6 are being much too kind.
Combat is really generic and each weapon stance limits how you move so it amps up difficulty not because enemies are just that smart but because you find yourself in the wrong stance and get SMASHED on or you're waiting for your sword animation to finish.
I tried to follow the story but by the time
I freed the Witch Edwen
Any scores over 6 are being much too kind.
Karak
Member
Ya. Hoping more games start offering solutions for this. My own thought is if an enemy can hit you at some point you should be able to hit them at some point.
HOLY EFF! I honestly thought this was the same game. I'm relieved because Lords of the Fallen actually looked pretty good.
Crisis averted!
SlasherJPC
Banned
Well ya know it could always get reviewed low as well. No game is safe these days. Just play what you want and form your own opinion is what I always tell people.
rocketskates
Member
Just got home, about to pop the game in in a little bit. 360 version here.
Safe from reviews? You've got to make a colossal piece of shit to get a bad review nowadays.
You are right of course. But Im not going to shell out 50 bucks for a game that by most accounts seems pretty rough. Im not hung up on the scores, but the reviews themselves about the combat especially is concerning.
No, GAF Summary - various people have differing opinions and some like it whilst some don't. Fuckin shocker.
That's not what I'm getting from this thread. A bunch of people who are saying the game stinks and a bunch of people waiting to get their copies. Then there a few PC screenshots. Yippee...
SlasherJPC
Banned
Really? I think you have that backwards. The fact that a game like Deadly Premonition can get away with being a game with HUGE design and peformance issues, and still be critically acclaimed and then something like this getting harped on for similar issues. Just seems a bit silly.
The point is, games have varying review scores and if you haven't seen, some major outlets are giving this 7's and 8's. So yeah. It is what it is. Like most games, people will enjoy it or they won't! Elementary my dear Watson!
BabyFaceKillah
Member
so worth the rent?
Evil Beaver
Member
It's like playing a cheesy, entertaining B-movie. I'm enjoying the hell out of it. The only gripe I have so far is that I'm playing on Captain difficulty and I'm getting my ass kicked left and right.
Gotta learn to use the right stances at the right moment and
Gotta learn to use the right stances at the right moment and
git gud
SlasherJPC
Banned
So what were you saying again?
I know. I was wondering why the game was looking different and very 'shit'.
How much is the rental? If you mean Redbox, hell yeah it's worth the $2 for a day.
WordsintheWater
Member
The game is solid, not great and not shitty. It's a good time and something that I enjoy playing with an open mind, sure there's cheesy dialogue and technical issues, but it is enjoyable.
In addition to the scores already in the OP, I honestly don't recall a time where scores for a game have been as scattered as this one. Again, we all knew it was going to be a very polarizing game but I'm still legitimately surprised.
That not scatter they average 5 easily. Only one is high.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Well you see you fit into the bracket of people in which others can't seem to fathom how someone would "enjoy" a game of this nature. I feel ya, but if anything proved to me just how off peoples views are versus mine. Was in a thread I created asking people to post their worst of worst games, games that were abysmal, and people suggest, Last of Us, LA Noir, etc. Yeah.... I rest my case.
Pretty much. Like I said previously, any numeric review over 6 is being far too kind.
RedAssedApe
Banned
hmm...i actually got opposite impression of the thread. decent number of gaffers posting that they are enjoying it. the negative stuff mostly seems to be comments based on seeing/reading the non-gaf review scores being posted.
seems like its an acquired taste though. i suggest that you just watch a stream and decide yourself.
I can't and won't force my opinion on anyone. I will just tell you my experiences, frustrations, and overall problems I had with the game. If that's something you can ignore or otherwise work past, then yeah, go for the game.
I do feel that overall it's worth waiting for a sale, not something you necessarily need now.
I do feel that overall it's worth waiting for a sale, not something you necessarily need now.
RalliArtEvo
Member
I'm really enjoying the game so far (3 hours in) playing on highest difficulty really makes the combat much more enjoyable.
Beyond: Two Souls scores were quite all over the place when the reviews came
TheSpoiler
Member
So there's a set number this game should have? Can you show me the bar for that? Last I heard, those numbers and reviews were merely opinion, so it was okay for them to rate it whatever they wanted.
But I guess I missed the memo on subjectivity.
There's more than one "high" one.
SoftPedia is 8.5/10
All About the Games is 8/10
Game Informer is 8/10
And then there are others that are on the rather low end of the spectrum here.
Polygon, GameSpot, VideoGamer, Saving Content, GotGame are all equal to or less than a 4/10.
It seems like quite the scatter to me, especially when compared to most other games that tend to have scores clumped a lot closer together.
Ah yeah. Good catch on that one. I had completely forgotten about how that game fared with most reviewers and players.
Molotov Cupcake
Neo Member
I wrote the Destructoid review and scored it a 7. Based it on my fun factor, which was unusually high for what to me felt like a somewhat broken game.
Yeah, the fun I ended up having certainly factored in to my review as well. I think I also started to enjoy it more when I sometimes imagined my character as Master Miller just losing his shit in another life.
Unity2012
Member
My exact feelings. After a few hours I am really enjoying it. I am actually surprise at how challenging combat can be at times. I dont enjoy xtra difficult gameplay like Dark Souls; I can appreciate it but don't enjoy it playing it myself, and this one is keeping me interested.
I hope more people give it a chance, if only to support the efforts of the developers. I know this is not a big budget game and yet, what it does well is pretty enjoyable.
SlasherJPC
Banned
I got the PC and the PS4 promo review copy. I still bought a retail Ps4 version. Def wanted to give these guys the support!
WordsintheWater
Member
I used to care about reviews way too much when I was younger, nowadays I just buy what I think I will enjoy, sure I have been burned a few times, but I would have missed out on some gems if I just listened to reviews and that's not worth it to me.