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Boxing: Floyd Mayweather vs. Victor Ortiz |OT| 9/17
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TheKaeptain
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The next Mayweather fight is going to make so much money.
goldlion054
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polyh3dron said:
Totally unsportsmanlike, but i guess he is 42-0 now. Anything to stay undefeated and get that bigger purse for PBF
Straightballin
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Ninja Scooter said:
Do you not understand what people are trying to say?
Ortiz was getting deducted a point for his headbutt.
Floyd won the fight because of his dirty punches.
One was punished the other won because of their dirty moves.
And you are comparing a barely connecting headbutt to two clean punches to the face that would have knocked anyone out.
The Ref did sent the fighters to a neutral corner and quickly resumed the fight before the KO.
It was a legal punch. You can watch it here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD15cR4ke4w
It was a legal punch. You can watch it here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD15cR4ke4w
Ninja Scooter said:
Like I said son, dirty. And definitely out of line. But he went out of his way to apologize profusely. Also, the probability of a KO by headbutt is nigh nonexistent. I've watched all eras of filmed boxing, and continue to, from championship fighters to club smokers, and i've never seen one. And that would certainly result in a DQ win. The fucking commissions are a whole other story, but it is ultimately up to the athletes themselves to maintain a high level of professionalism about the sport. Especially in one historically derided for primitive barbarism.
Satyamdas said:
With all due respect I disagree. Ortiz was landing quite a few decent power punches and had floyd moving and punching more than i've seen since his lightweight days really. I would greatly enjoy a rematch with Kenny Bayless as the referee. Headbutts are part and parcel of infighting. Duran did them. So does hopkins. So did Holyfield. Basilio, etc.
Doesn't mystify me at all. Just wanted to call them turds for complaining about a sport they don't know cockall about.Cipherr said:
DryEyeRelief
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nvm
Ninja Scooter
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Higgy said:
Because nobody cares. Nobody is inviting Floyd over for dinner or introducing them to their daughter. If you ever followed sports (especially boxing) at any point in history you probably rooted for someone who is one of the things you just described. It's nothing new and certainly not exclusive to "today's society" so get the fuck over it already.
theviolenthero
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Ok, i just watched the clip again and the ref clearly looks at the table and says "start it" (the clock). I don't know the technicalities of that so maybe someone with more knowledge can explain.
Clip below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yg1aiFA1M4
Clip below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yg1aiFA1M4
BamYouHaveAids
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That is dumb, not all fighters react the same way to a loss. Since I assume you watch MMA, remember when Vera had his orbital broken against Jones and just sat there smiling like retard while poking it and hamming it up for the camera? Some fighters just aren't emotional. There is no way those two shots he ate were scripted or pulled.WrikaWrek said:
That was the most perplexing part of the fight. I don't know how a man goes from being frustrated to the point of pulling a blatantly illegal move, to losing by cheapshot and smiling like it wasn't a big deal. Absolutely queer. Just a really strange fight from headbutt to conclusion. I couldn't believe what I was seeing from knock-out to post-fight interview.WrikaWrek said:
That Singer Guy... said:
Dat hyperbole.
Mayweather was gonna hit the dude whether it was "legal" or not; just so happens the ref was so terrible that it ended up working in Mayweather's favor. It was a bad way to end the fight, but Ortiz brought it on himself, first by losing it and headbutting him when he finally seemed to be getting somewhere and then by acting all doofy and aloof in the middle of the match he trained months for. And for Mayweather, the shit-talking with a ~70 yr old man after the match was really unfortunate.
All in all, nobody in their right mind expected Ortiz to win, but this ending was disappointing.
Straightballin
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dream said:
He threw two undefended punches. Your telling me all he wanted to do was open a cut?
IrishNinja
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Ninja Scooter
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Straightballin said:
I'm saying attempting a flying headbutt is not only dirty, but dangerous and illegal. What Floyd did was only dirty, but not against the rules, so no, i'm not even mad.
Harry Potter
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Watching the replay - I can't stop counting the things the ref did wrong. Jesus Christ.
Straightballin
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dream said:
Oh, didn't realize. It was done out of frustration after missing so many punches. Bitch move.
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theviolenthero said:
Problem is, Cortez was still fudging around kinda saying go, then they met in the center, he was still bullshitting about the scorecards when he did it.
If you ever watch UFC you see a lot of "go back to your corner" insistence, and this is a good reason why. You gotta be clear as a ref, Cortez claims he's "firm but he's fair" - he sure as fuck wasn't firm there.
I'm not saying he deserved what happened because he threw a headbutt, I'm saying he threw it out of frustration because he wasn't landing many shots. He was definitely forcing Floyd to move more than we've seen in a long time, but he wasn't touching him and wasn't putting him in any danger. Ortiz's close range game is really weak and unpolished still.EschatonDX said:
If they do rematch I hope he gets that shit sharpened up in time.
AndyMoogle
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Pretty much. Floyd may be a douche, but Ortiz is an idiot. I'm more pissed off that Ortiz didn't give a fuck and just let Floyd KO him. It could have been a decent fight, but Ortiz had to be a moron and fuck it up.Ninja Scooter said:
But for Floyd himself- this was the type of shit people hate his trashy ass for. All the shit he gets about having no class, being a wifebeater, being a coward, etc.. This is throwing fuel on the fire. And it's why I refuse to drop any scrill on his PPV's.
I thought it was funny people mentioned this as something of a warning to Pacquiao. If PBF did this to Pac that little asian typhoon would go terminator.
I thought he had landed some nice short shots at middle range. But then again i'm hammered and i was with a few other people. I'll probably rewatch it again tomorrow.
I thought it was funny people mentioned this as something of a warning to Pacquiao. If PBF did this to Pac that little asian typhoon would go terminator.
Satyamdas said:
I thought he had landed some nice short shots at middle range. But then again i'm hammered and i was with a few other people. I'll probably rewatch it again tomorrow.
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theviolenthero said:
Fight was clearly started, he said lets go twice.
Doesn't even matter if he was looking or not, after the headbutt, Floyd was going to hit him either way. Ortiz seemed like he was a bit embarrassed by his actions, trying to overcompensate. I feel like he was trying to calm Floyd down, and Floyd was having none of it.
Edit : At 1:04, they are on opposite ends of the ring and Cortes says "lets go".
theviolenthero
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JLG- said:
Ya, it's a wrap for Cortez. Hopefully he'll go ahead and retire.
Ninja Scooter
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TheNatural said:
Cortez did a shit job by not paying attention, but you can't put that on Floyd (or Ortiz). it was pretty clear that he restarted the fight, he said fight, put his hands together to indicate the fighters can engage, and then LET them engage. He then, for some reason, inexplicably looked away for an extended amount of time but how is that the fighters' problem?
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