I'm just finding it strange in arena that the farther I go in it, the more each match is decided on the first round. The BB that gets used/doesn't get used, seems largely sitting on the sidelines unless referencing team wipe sans 1 2hp character who randomly decides to blow their load. Lots of times characters never get the chance to act if they are defending, never mind build BB or even require a BB being used on them. Even if the BB were disabled completely, it wouldn't make a difference in most of the matches I win or lose. Torpedo my vargas and Lava the first round? Ok, GG because I'm not coming back from that and you are going to kill my Vishnu and Cayena in the next round anyhow without using the BB you have charged up as a result of the first round kills...
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I'm just finding it strange in arena that the farther I go in it, the more each match is decided on the first round. The BB that gets used/doesn't get used, seems largely sitting on the sidelines unless referencing team wipe sans 1 2hp character who randomly decides to blow their load. Lots of times characters never get the chance to act if they are defending, never mind build BB or even require a BB being used on them. Even if the BB were disabled completely, it wouldn't make a difference in most of the matches I win or lose. Torpedo my vargas and Lava the first round? Ok, GG because I'm not coming back from that and you are going to kill my Vishnu and Cayena in the next round anyhow without using the BB you have charged up as a result of the first round kills...
Birgitte2004
Member
Serin and Cayena fill up BB skill as fast as Lira and Falron.
Faster if you use lots of them because Lira and Falron don't have enough hits to generate lots of crystals.
Which is exactly my point.
My Omni Gizmo/Evil Sharded up high hit count units(based on Serin, Kikuri, and Felneus) routinely has 4 BBs ready to go on the 2nd turn. Frequently all 5.
The fact that Lira or Falron can do that too is irrelevant. Why would I spend a bunch of gems to get the same effect that I already have?
And there are a couple of 4x Lira parties in my Arena range. They are total jokes, because Lira generates so...few...crystals.
Serin and Cayena generate more crystals due to having higher combos, but their BB meters require 24 Crystals, whereas Lira only requires 16 and Lilith 14.
That said I'm not comparing a Felneus lead team of Serin/Cayenas to a team of 4 5-Star Liras. Like you said that's a joke. IMO units like Lira and Lilith are better paired up with high combo units like Serin to generate crystals so their BB gauges are more likely to fill up on the first turn in the arena.
However even if you still aren't sold on them as they are now, some of your complaints about these units are addressed by their 6 star forms (Lira's SBB combo goes up to 13, Faron's goes up to 12 and he gets 300% attack, and Lilith gets a SBB that instantly refills every time she uses it).
Birgitte2004
Member
This is making the huge assumption that Serin and Cayena will not receive 6 star forms.
Birgitte2004
Member
Serin does 13 hits towards 24 crystals, Lira does 6 hits towards 16. Serin is just flat better pretty much no matter how you look at it.
A 6 star form might make Lira more appealing, but Lira won't be all that great by that point with stat inflation anyway.
My point isn't that Lira is particularly bad, my point is that Lira's niche role in Japan was destroyed by Gumi's global units. And I still believe that. Lira still reduces the odds you'll get a Great Falcon Ziz or Sky Knight Falma, so she still makes the summon gate odds better at least.
If I was playing the JP version at this point, summons in an attempt to get Lira would be worthwhile. With the Global version they aren't IMO.
The Oboro/Alma tier hasn't received them yet in Japan, nor did the goddesses or the Square collab fremium units. Lira's Six star form is coming out sometime soon. It really doesn't look like the "free" units are getting six star forms anytime soon.
I would be pretty surprised if Serin and company get six star forms. They are already some of the best units in the game. If they upgrade them, then why would people pay money, ever?
They release something that hard/soft counters high hit count characters.
SparksterMeta0
Member
I don't think I can do the sibyl sisters thing.
Even my best team is too weak to beat the fire one (lv 3) without having to use one gem to finish the job.
I'll just go ahead and keep doing the metal parades to strengthen my units. I was able to get some pots yesterday and I'll need those along with tomorrow's totems to evolve.
Even my best team is too weak to beat the fire one (lv 3) without having to use one gem to finish the job.
I'll just go ahead and keep doing the metal parades to strengthen my units. I was able to get some pots yesterday and I'll need those along with tomorrow's totems to evolve.
I think I'm in a similar spot. I've never attempted totems, but I'm sitting on multiple lvl 60 4-stars who are going to need them very soon!
The Super Metal Parade doesn't seem worth it honestly. Almost three times the cost, and I just don't feel like I'm getting Gods at three times the rate. Yeah it's nice not having to mess with the ghosts, but those 7-8 ghosts are basically free in terms of energy expenditure. Though I guess you can chew through runs by spending gems much faster in an hour, so that's going to be a benefit to big spenders.
I was under 1000 XP away for a level up so I went for it twice. Got pretty lucky with a few crystals.
Doing it at least once gets you a gem for "completion" too.
Birgitte2004
Member
In my 5 runs I got 3 Crystals, 13 Gods, and only 9 Kings.
There's no way I'd get that much from 13 ( and 1/3rd ) normal metal parades.
I think Brave Frontier is starting to lose its hold on me. I'm done with the new quests, can't even get Karl below 25% despite spending 1.5 million leveling up lightning types, and I'm burned out from spending hours doing repeated god runs.
Does anyone have any recommendations for another mobile game to play? My friend recommended Chaos Drive, but the UI was so hard to get past that I deleted it.
Does anyone have any recommendations for another mobile game to play? My friend recommended Chaos Drive, but the UI was so hard to get past that I deleted it.
In three runs I got 2 Gods and all the rest Kings. Seems like we're on opposite ends of the spectrum. Really seems like each run should have at least a guaranteed God or Crystal as the final fight.
SparksterMeta0
Member
There's a spacial "Light and Dark" Totem event going on now until the end of the day!
Each of the two dungeons respectively earn you a Light or Dark Totem at the end of the levels.
Warning: You'll also run into a random totem midboss. You'll likely run into some trouble here, but it also means you can capture it.
Each of the two dungeons respectively earn you a Light or Dark Totem at the end of the levels.
Warning: You'll also run into a random totem midboss. You'll likely run into some trouble here, but it also means you can capture it.
chickdigger802
Banned
love live. puzzle dragon system but rhythm game that is just skill based and not money based.
also idols.
I like Love Live, but the game is so money based on all events.
Yekshemesh
Member
Finally got light totems for my light crew. Did 4 runs probably get 2 more in and call it a good day. Sefia, Sodis and Melchio finally getting their upgrade... so happy.
I made sure to do enough runs to cover all my light/dark monsters and any potential 6 star forms. I wish they'd just add the dungeons to the regular Totem rotation though.
chickdigger802
Banned
you can get the first SR without much issue free.
The SR's really don't matter, there's a reason the UR gif exists (for scoring purposes).
Yep. The super parade is far more worth it in every way. The exp to energy is better, the amount of time spent inside the dungeon is less (higher energy cost = fewer runs), so you are less likely to run out of time. The odds of getting crystals and gods are way higher and you get no trash units.
I did 7 runs myself, got 6 crystals (3 in the same run), 12 gods (nearly averaging 2 per run), and the rest were kings. What I have noticed though, is that the normal parade runs have been total crap since then sadly. I don't think i've had quite this many 4/1 spirit/other or 5/0 runs before. I got more done in a couple hours of super parades than I have in the last week roughly of normal ones.
Gem acquisition is rare. Typings really don't matter too much, and since they constantly introduce new units all the time that are more powerful than the older bunch it's getting harder and harder to draw a garbage unit since you are likelier to draw a new unit. And yes, the game's an IAP trap that's getting more and more shameless imho.
Shouta
Member
Game gives gems often enough that the initial set + the ones you get periodically should give you a pretty decent spread of units. Most are getting higher end evolutions too so older ones aren't sitting in storage for too long.
On that note, I just pushed Mega to 6 stars a little while ago. That puts me at 6 star Selena, 6 Star Mega (leader), 5 Star Serin, 5 Star Elimo, and 5 Star Sergio because my other, multi-hit burst 5 stars cost too much, for a single party at the moment.
Working on mono colors for other teams as well and raising the strongest for a rainbow team to boot.
On that note, I just pushed Mega to 6 stars a little while ago. That puts me at 6 star Selena, 6 Star Mega (leader), 5 Star Serin, 5 Star Elimo, and 5 Star Sergio because my other, multi-hit burst 5 stars cost too much, for a single party at the moment.
Working on mono colors for other teams as well and raising the strongest for a rainbow team to boot.
Best way to beat Grah is to have a Grah friend.
Folks have already beat grah using BB spam teams essentially. copypasta of a guide i saw elsewhere....
http://www.reddit.com/r/bravefrontier/comments/2a8qch/official_grah_achievement_mega_thread/
Active entire battle
Angel Idol buff.
Single-target dark elemental attack that inflicts injury and weakness.
AoE fire elemental attack.
AoE water elemental attack.
AoE earth elemental attack.
AoE thunder elemental attack.
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100% HP
Guard on the first turn. DO NOT try using a fujin and Damage Reduction buff, it will not work.
Powerful AoE dark elemental attack:
100% of your unit's total HP if you don't guard.
55% of your unit's total HP if you guard.
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< 100% HP
On the 5th turn:
Debuffs your units by lowering their attack (wears off at < 75% HP).
Light attribute buff (wears off at < 75% HP).
3 turn heal over time buff.
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< 75% HP
Guard on 5 units while the 6th unit lowers Grah below 75% HP.
Powerful AoE dark elemental attack:
100% of your unit's total HP if you don't guard.
55% of your unit's total HP if you guard.
When to guard:* http://i.imgur.com/7nGlJ91.png
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< 40% HP
Attack buff (wears off at < 20% HP).
Single-target dark elemental attack that inflicts paralysis.
Single-target thunder elemental attack that inflicts paralysis.
Single-target earth elemental attack that inflicts weakness.
Guard on 5 units while the 6th unit lowers Grah below 40% HP.
Moderate AoE dark elemental attack.
6,660 damage if you don't guard.
3,330 damage if you guard
When to guard: http://i.imgur.com/TIMZ3Tf.png
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< 20% HP
3 turn heal over time buff.
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< 15% HP
Attack and defense buff (wears off at < 5% HP).
Light attribute buff (wears off at < 5% HP).
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< 5% HP
Defense buff.
3 turn heal over time buff.
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0% HP
If your current squad is your only squad or last squad remaining then heal at least one unit to 5,001+ HP and guard, while all remaining units lowers Grah to 0% HP.
Powerful AoE dark elemental attack:
9,999 damage if you don't guard.
5,000 damage if you guard.
Grah is now immobilized, so finish him off.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/bravefrontier/comments/2a8qch/official_grah_achievement_mega_thread/
Active entire battle
Angel Idol buff.
Single-target dark elemental attack that inflicts injury and weakness.
AoE fire elemental attack.
AoE water elemental attack.
AoE earth elemental attack.
AoE thunder elemental attack.
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100% HP
Guard on the first turn. DO NOT try using a fujin and Damage Reduction buff, it will not work.
Powerful AoE dark elemental attack:
100% of your unit's total HP if you don't guard.
55% of your unit's total HP if you guard.
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< 100% HP
On the 5th turn:
Debuffs your units by lowering their attack (wears off at < 75% HP).
Light attribute buff (wears off at < 75% HP).
3 turn heal over time buff.
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< 75% HP
Guard on 5 units while the 6th unit lowers Grah below 75% HP.
Powerful AoE dark elemental attack:
100% of your unit's total HP if you don't guard.
55% of your unit's total HP if you guard.
When to guard:* http://i.imgur.com/7nGlJ91.png
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< 40% HP
Attack buff (wears off at < 20% HP).
Single-target dark elemental attack that inflicts paralysis.
Single-target thunder elemental attack that inflicts paralysis.
Single-target earth elemental attack that inflicts weakness.
Guard on 5 units while the 6th unit lowers Grah below 40% HP.
Moderate AoE dark elemental attack.
6,660 damage if you don't guard.
3,330 damage if you guard
When to guard: http://i.imgur.com/TIMZ3Tf.png
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< 20% HP
3 turn heal over time buff.
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< 15% HP
Attack and defense buff (wears off at < 5% HP).
Light attribute buff (wears off at < 5% HP).
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< 5% HP
Defense buff.
3 turn heal over time buff.
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0% HP
If your current squad is your only squad or last squad remaining then heal at least one unit to 5,001+ HP and guard, while all remaining units lowers Grah to 0% HP.
Powerful AoE dark elemental attack:
9,999 damage if you don't guard.
5,000 damage if you guard.
Grah is now immobilized, so finish him off.
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I have to say, I got burned out on PAD pretty fast but I really like how they are handling BF.
PAD was pretty awful in how you needed specific units to beat alot of those dungeons, and it was a complete pain to get them.
Birgitte2004
Member
I wonder if the tasks are universal or random to the person?
5 Quests in an area I have no use to do quests in is kinda annoying as a daily task.
Oh well, I figure I'll just accumulate BP as the tasks line up with what I'm already doing. If it takes me 30 days per summon instead of 21 meh.
Okay, have my Grah, beat him with one team, 0 deaths the entire fight. Team was: Tree, Felneus x 2, Kik, Tesla, Douglas. I'm gonna max him now, add me if you need him. Put GAF in your message or I won't add
What's your friend code?
I've almost beaten him several times. I think Grah will make it much easier
Euphoria14
Member
Caught Grahdens today. Currently he is lvl 77 BBlvl2 w/ Medulla Gem. I have a few spots open, so add me if you need him to help you get Grahdens yourself. Be sure to have "GAF" in your comment.
Game ID: 89589649
Game ID: 89589649
Birgitte2004
Member
I went to attack Grah, hit challenge, there goes 50 energy, Unexpected Error has occurred.
Freaking A. There HAS to be a way they can detect crap like this to give energy back.
Freaking A. There HAS to be a way they can detect crap like this to give energy back.
I can't log in to the game right now but my code should be in the gaf chart. My grah is maxed at 80.
Edit: 273355354
It's why they always give a gem to compensate. What would really suck would be if you got a rare drop right before the crash, no way to get that back.
Birgitte2004
Member
I too got Grah once I finally got to try it. Did it with a Water/Earth party, second and third party did not come in to play.
Whoop whoop!
Whoop whoop!
Playing for months and months helps
I think new units are going to be released shortly. That said, they won't necessarily be better than what is out now, so, depending on what you have, I might just pull now.