SoraanTribal
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That does sound like a lot of work, lol. I think I'll just Ninja or sub Ninja and Utsusemi cheese them. D:
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That does sound like a lot of work, lol. I think I'll just Ninja or sub Ninja and Utsusemi cheese them. D:
SkyTurnsRed
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...Unacceptable!
I was so ready to see that bikini. Poor Sage and Ringabel.. Tiz is a traitor.
Squall ASF
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Oh my sweet sweet Wazzy, you will not experience how annoying she can truly be until Chapter 3 (not a plot spoiler, she just gets far more annoying).
theprodigy
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you can literally tank Orthros and make him do 1 damage every hit, even on hard mode
SoraanTribal
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Two dragons down after using the Utsusemi cheese method, lol. It's kinda fun keeping that up on my characters - reminds me of the demo actually since that was often the most efficient way to fight the bosses.
I can't decide what support abilities to use for damage dealers, though. "Buff Up" seems incredibly useful since it means I don't really need a Performer by using it. Speed Up is also useful depending on the boss (it especially helps on the dragons to make sure you get Utsusemi off before the boss attacks that particular round). Turn Tables is great in a situation where you are going to be using Utsusemi. Comeback Kid has a similar function to Buff Up, but it requires you to be a Ninja basically (or at least sub Ninja for Utsusemi). For certain classes, Two Handed is obviously great (like Valkyrie or Pirate). Not sure when is best to use Dual Wield.
Anyone have any tips for making the most out of Support Abilities or what they find to be the best combo for bosses?
I can't decide what support abilities to use for damage dealers, though. "Buff Up" seems incredibly useful since it means I don't really need a Performer by using it. Speed Up is also useful depending on the boss (it especially helps on the dragons to make sure you get Utsusemi off before the boss attacks that particular round). Turn Tables is great in a situation where you are going to be using Utsusemi. Comeback Kid has a similar function to Buff Up, but it requires you to be a Ninja basically (or at least sub Ninja for Utsusemi). For certain classes, Two Handed is obviously great (like Valkyrie or Pirate). Not sure when is best to use Dual Wield.
Anyone have any tips for making the most out of Support Abilities or what they find to be the best combo for bosses?
If I remember correctly, there are four jobs you get in chapter 2.
Buff Up is a lot more stronger than it looks. It basically makes buffs impossible to time out, even from other abilities that grant temporary buffs like Comeback Kid. It makes it easy to make your character permanently 50% stronger.
HammerOfThor
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Is it worth investing in a Knight or a Thief?
DrROBschiz
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It has been for me so Far
Stomp is universally useful early on. Just make sure you have your knight Two hand a good sword. I used Invigorate(Monk) >>> Stomp a lot. Easy way to hit for 800-1000 damage early in the game and its 100% accurate.
Thief is pretty weak but I gave mine Knuckle lore and he did really well early on (especially if you steal some good equipment)
Thief really gets some awesome abilities within the first 9 levels (before the JP cost skyrockets)
SoraanTribal
Member
Yeah, that's very true. Buff Up seems like the best raw damage buff you can do. What would you recommend for the other two slots? Speaking of which, do you get a 5th support job slot after
the earth crystal?
Definitely. At least getting Knight to level 2 with everyone for Two Handed and Stomp. I haven't used many of its other support abilities myself. Thief is very useful to get to level 11 at the very least for Rob Blind (steal two items at a time). Thief is also pretty good damage with a bow.
HammerOfThor
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DrROBschiz
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Big fan of Godspeed Strike which has a modifier for its damage based on the Agility stat (I missed this in the description the first time)
Pumped up my thief with all the AGI boosting equipment I had and BP recovery skills and he hits like a truck
If you're willing to put more levels in Performer, you can get Buff Amp which increases any positive buff you get by +10% and reduces debuffs you suffer by -10%. Stack that with Buff Up and you get 15% every turn. If you're sticking with Ninja skills, then Comeback Kid is a must with either Transience or Turn Tables as you've figured out. Classes that could work well are Monk for fast tracking P. Atk with Invigorate or Pirate for high natural strength and Adrenaline Rush (when dropping to 20% HP, gain massive buffs) plus the class's debuffing skills are great. There are also a couple of jobs past chapter 4 that will highly synergize with Buff Up as well.
And yes to your spoiler.
SoraanTribal
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Yeah, Agility is a really great stat in general, I think. Doesn't it affect how many hits your attacks do?
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So.. am I underleveled (65) or are the random encounters (on the first floor...) in (chapter 4)
Vampire Castle
Thanks a lot for the tips!
Yeah, Agility is a really great stat in general, I think. Doesn't it affect how many hits your attacks do?
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So.. am I underleveled (65) or are the random encounters (on the first floor...) in (chapter 4)hard as shit? Like seriously, their regular attacks take off SO much damage, not to mention the status effects like Confuse/Charm...Vampire Castle
Thanks a lot for the tips!
Nah, if anything you're overleveled (I'm in chapter 6 at level 69) but that place is utterly brutal. It doesn't matter that much how strong you are precisely because Confuse and Charm will turn that strength against you. I recommend a Spiritmaster at level 12-ish with high speed to use Fairy Ward (blocks all status effects on party), or accessories that block them. Or just turn the encounters off.
The job you get from this is so worth it, but the fight is also extremely tough.
Squall ASF
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END GAME SPOILER
I don't think the game bothered explaining how the heck Ringabel got to the first world, did it? It explained where he is from and who he failed to save, but not how he was transported to the world you begin the game in as far as I can remember.
theprodigy
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DrROBschiz
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Yeah, Agility is a really great stat in general, I think. Doesn't it affect how many hits your attacks do?
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So.. am I underleveled (65) or are the random encounters (on the first floor...) in (chapter 4)hard as shit? Like seriously, their regular attacks take off SO much damage, not to mention the status effects like Confuse/Charm...Vampire Castle
Thanks a lot for the tips!
Agility is truly the most important stat to me so far
Much easier to control fights when you get to move first
Squall ASF
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*cringe*
It's not like she could possibly get any wors-
I think I will continue to check this thread solely for you and your reactions for the rest of your game
Otakumegane
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So uhh entering the 1st "point of no return".
Do I have to do the
now?
Do I have to do the
keystone quest
CielTynave
Member
So I just saw the first event of what I'm assuming is the
sidequest in Chapter 3. I waited until night and looked around again but didn't find anything. Do I just have to wait for a bit before I can really jump into this one or is there something else I have to do to progress?
Pirate
Squall ASF
Member
I recommend doing it if for no other reason that that particular side quest fleshes out the main narrative and imo, should be a mandatory quest.
You don't have to wait until night, you just have to
get back in your ship and sail into the foggy area in the sea just above Grandship. The game will ask you if you want to let the ghost ship pass or if you want to board it and I'm sure you can guess which answer to choose
DrROBschiz
Member
Yeah...
AGI matters but there is still some RNG stuff going on in the background >.<
I am wondering what causes it. Seems random
theprodigy
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inb4 4x Shippujinrais to the face after this post
Otakumegane
Member
Well I mean will I miss it if I don't do it now?
I feel like that dungeon sets a precedent for stacking agility items(fox tails/falcon knives) because from that point onward the first turn setups are crucial for not wiping. Although like someone above me said it does get annoying when your healer gets a stillness off before your DPSers who have more agility and speed support abilities stacked can attack.
Squall ASF
Member
If you're on Chapter 4, then no but it's the best and possibly only way to get all the
genomes that class can learn but if you aren't going to bother trying to get them all you can save it for later
Aveyn Knight
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theprodigy
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I thought I would enjoy chapter 5 since
it was basically an optional boss rush but with all the new jobs, but instead of highlighting new strats with different jobs, it just shows how utterly broken and universally applicable some combinations are in the game. Ninjas alone trivialize so many of the early boss fights (and later boss fights too) that I wish the bosses actually did something new to take into account your new repertoire of skills. I'm already annoyed that half the genome skills are gone post chapter 4 until the very end of the game, but this new tedium has really put a damper on my motivation.
That's what I'm doing.
How are they doing so much damage though, I have like the same stuff.
theprodigy
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10 meteors per 2 turns, how can you only be dealing 4000 a turn
Aveyn Knight
Member
Yikes, I do 9 lots of 9999 in one turn.
My characters are Level 99, raining Meteors, and my Stillness user is using Little Devil every turn.
theprodigy
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toddhunter
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Otakumegane
Member
Start of chapter 5.
The fk just happened.
The fk just happened.
Otakumegane
Member
Reading journal start of Chpt 5 and considering the Steins;Gate writer
That would explain a lot.
Ringabel during chapters 1-4 is the Alternis that went back in time after they defeated him in the pillar?In the 1st world, the 1st half of the game takes place on the 2nd world and this is now the 3rd loop?
That would explain a lot.