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Bravely Default |OT| For the Americas
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
It's amusing how over-hyped this game was when it was still just in Japan. I mean, it's really good, but it's got some serious issues and was really hamstrung by the budget. It's got the potential to be an amazing series, but... we're not quite there yet.
Aveyn Knight
Member
I didn't pay attention to any hype and I liked the game for what it was. Sure, it did drag on a bit (or a lot) near the end, but the gameplay is so awesome.
Fingers crossed for Bravely Second though : )
HeisenbergLannister
Member
I'm only in chapter 4, but I kinda hope the sequel is on the WiiU. Better graphics, larger areas, more variety in dungeons and areas, etc. Hopefully also add in some variety, maybe more puzzles, etc.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Bravely Second's gonna be sweeeeeeeeet.
Here's question, though: I wonder if people are more bothered by Bravely Default's second act, or Xenogears' second act. Both games had serious shifts in the pacing that angered a lot of people... and personally, I think BD's second act is considerably worse. At least in Xenogears, shit was actually happening.
flatearthpandas
Member
I've seen a lot of people comment on how easy the game is, but I have honestly struggled through most of the first chapter.
I feel like I'm cheating half of the time because I'm using gear from Norende since I migrated 20 villagers from the demo, but then, I still get fucking wiped out in random battles. Playing on Normal. If I hadn't bought the Cura shield, I would have run out of MP healing through the last three bosses or so.
Everyone is level 23 at the end of the first chapter, which seems crazy high to me, but Tiz, who has 1k+ HP still gets massacred on the reg.
I'm not exactly new to RPGs, it's just weird when dragging a party through Etrian Odyssey is relaxing compared to playing this game.
And I'd like to comment again about how obnoxious the IAPs are in this game. I am commenting on it again, because the game just decided to make using Bravely Second (or whatever it's called) one of the miniquests, and of course Tiz says, while he's attacking, "You know, there's a way to get more SP without waiting!"
I feel like I'm cheating half of the time because I'm using gear from Norende since I migrated 20 villagers from the demo, but then, I still get fucking wiped out in random battles. Playing on Normal. If I hadn't bought the Cura shield, I would have run out of MP healing through the last three bosses or so.
Everyone is level 23 at the end of the first chapter, which seems crazy high to me, but Tiz, who has 1k+ HP still gets massacred on the reg.
I'm not exactly new to RPGs, it's just weird when dragging a party through Etrian Odyssey is relaxing compared to playing this game.
And I'd like to comment again about how obnoxious the IAPs are in this game. I am commenting on it again, because the game just decided to make using Bravely Second (or whatever it's called) one of the miniquests, and of course Tiz says, while he's attacking, "You know, there's a way to get more SP without waiting!"
puffyshirt
Banned
The story in Bravely Default is just pretty terrible from all angles. It's filled with interesting enough characters, which makes it worth the trek, but the story itself is super weak.
Xenogears disk 2, was just a bad experience all round imo. The story really came to point where it was just a mess and the gameplay portions where non-existant and just bad.
BD's 2nd act you can control the pacing and the battles in Chapter 7+ offered a good challenge, which is nice since the main draw of this game is it's combat system. Also it picks things up with the final chapter.
Basileus777
Member
It's easy to hype something simply because it's unavailable. Though I think those who played the Japanese version failed to communicate how flawed this game is. And without the improvements the "For the Sequel" version gave this game, I'd probably call it outright bad.
Meh the characters aren't terribly interesting as well. The good guys are all pretty 1-dimensional happy-go-lucky white knights who just want to do the right thing. Even Ringabel got tiresome after his 50th comment about girls during a serious situation. It was funny the first 20 times... Whereas the "bad" guys are just killers who won't discuss anything for even second but just go straight to killing even their own family. No characters had enough discussion to really make them interesting. Closest it got was "You don't know this back story and I'm not going to waste my time with you. En Guarde!"
WeaponKnight
Member
Just got confirmation that my order was processed. Should be here by next week hopefully.
SoraanTribal
Member
Yeah, I've done it two ways so far. With
everyone subjob Acrobatics/Valkyrie and spamming Crescent Moon with everyone. Even on mage jobs (just equip them with a Sword/Katana/whatever Lore form another job so they have S ranking. Allows easy leveling of new jobs as well. The other way I've done it is to have someone be Black Mage with subjob Swordmaster (need lvl14 though for Free Lunch). So I have the black mage Brave 4 times and use Free Lunch -> Firaga x3 and all enemies will be dead since most are weak to Fire. Need decent INT/BLM gear to do this, though. The Black Mage method is better for farming money since all enemies will typically die at the same time unlike using Crescent Moon (due to crits usually killing one enemy too early).
I've used Spirit Ward several times now (I LOVE Spiritmaster/White Mage combo for a healer) - I haven't tried Adaptation. Should give that a go. 
I don't really think it's terrible personally. It isn't amazing or anything like that, but the little hints/mysteries are keeping me interested and seeing where it's going. I feel like the sidestories are also pretty interesting (in particular the one with
Lester/Vampire
Whattt, no way!
Disc 2 had the absolute best parts of the story in Xenogears (and why it's my favorite story in a game). I can understand why some would dislike Disc 2 due to the lack of gameplay, but I loved it for the story personally.
JetBlackPanda
Member
I understand the complaints about the story but man its been so long since we have gotten a traditional turn based role playing game like this. How can I even complain? its not like most games have a great story anyways.
I think the strength of Xenogears story is in it's world building, which is top notch. The actual plot points had me rolling my eyes. I can see why people like it though.Whattt, no way!
So uhh, end game spoilers I suppose
I was in chapter 6, and knowing how tedious this is gonna get to do this all again (I know they're just optional bosses but I just gotta kill'em), I tried to break the crystals despite no prompt. Well, it worked. Airy revealed her final form then script-killed me (is that suppose to happen if you keep going through the light?) and I got jumped to the finale. Is chapter 8 the finale or is it a separate chapter?
Basileus777
Member
It's the final chapter, but you're going to see the bad ending. After you beat it you will be sent back.
Just complete this and then you will get the option to save and you will brought back to before you broke the crystal. Then you should play all the chapters without breaking anything. You can honestly just skip the sidequests, except of Ch7 since you can steal good stuff there. The sidequests do give a bit of insight in the opponents though, but nothing major. Ch8 side quests are pretty brutal so be warned (no interesting items to steal either). Ch8 is not the final chapter.
I edited my pervious post a bit. Doing the sidequests does give a bit of insight in the opponents, but nothing major. I personally could have done without it. Not sure if this applies to ch8, because I skipped those.
Jawmuncher
Member
I'm only on Chapter 2 and 8 hours in. I love everything about this game so far. I haven't been this addicted to a jRPG like this since FF7.
flatearthpandas
Member
What level are you?
I'm on Chapter 2 as well but it has taken almost 12 hours and it is has been pretty miserable. Trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong. Have you been changing jobs?
SpaceBridge
Member
So I got some sort of ending but I'm afraid to save incase I've locked myself out of true ending. Chapter 6 spoilers:
so I shattered the wind crystal, Ringabel asked what would happen and I was curious. Airy turned into some demon thing, wiped out the party, then we came back to life. I'm now at the Chasm, now called the dark Aurora. Should I go on? Seems like I've skipped chapters.
Help?
Help?
You're fine. Once you finish that, the game will put you back to right before you broke the crystal. You're not locked out of the true ending.
Jawmuncher
Member
8 hours and all my chracters are level 21.
I've been keeping classes so far Knight, White Mage, Black Mage, and Monk.
I did grind for a little bit but it seems to be if you bump the difficulty to hard you get more XP I might just be imagining that but I stuck with the change anyway. Aside from that the only thing I have really been doing is making sure I grab the best equipment. This early in the game i'm not bothering with job changes since that team up there is just fine for now.
SpaceBridge
Member
Wait, but I'm confused. This isn't the true ending? Will I have to repeat this dungeon again?
Crash Station
Member
Only in chapter 1, but I am loving this game. It's everything I hoped FF would be since X. Hoping the complaints about the second half are overblown.
I also find it amusing how you flat out murder the asterisk-holders and no one seems to care or even mention it. Not even a
is spared.
I also find it amusing how you flat out murder the asterisk-holders and no one seems to care or even mention it. Not even a
16 year old thief
Jawmuncher
Member
A life of crime never pays.
flatearthpandas
Member
Thanks!
I'm wondering if job switching is what has made things so difficult for me. I've been switching around 5 or 6 for everyone.
It isn't. There are a couple more chapters after 6, and once you finish chapter 8, you go to the true ending. You will have to do that again, but any chests you get won't refill.
Jawmuncher
Member
Yeah I think that might be the problem.
Better to have higher class levels than a bit of everything in the beginning. There'll be time later to start messing with all the classes.
SoraanTribal
Member
Chapter 5+:
I wouldn't mind the repetition of doing the sidequest bosses so much if more of the dialogue changed. On some of the bosses, the dialogue is quite different, but on others, it's almost word-for-word the exact same dialogue as the first go around. Like, I just did Edea's Commander again, and I am pretty sure the dialogue was exactly the same... like wtf? or even if you go visit Edea's mother again, the characters are like in shock that she recognizes Agnes and Edea is like "Mother! Are you okay?!" Edea, that isn't even your real mother since this is another world... I don't get the characters sometimes.
Admiral Woofington
Member
I remember when I was playing this game and was still thinking it was one of the best jrpgs in a long time. That pre-chapter 5 innocence. Oh yes.
DrROBschiz
Member
Knight remains good for a long time
Stomp is an excellent move that can be quickly boosted with Invigorate and Two Handing a sword for big damage
Its even better since the Sword special is activated by Braving. Really good setup early on just have to be careful with the defense hit of not having a shield.
I have found Evasion to be mostly a throwaway stat for the most part since there are so many attacks with 100% accuracy. You are better off going full offense IMHO
Yep, like they are surprised when the same monster comes out of the same crystal for the 16th time. C'mon Square. This was one of the biggest issues for me. Then Ringabel tells them he remembers Airy being bad in Chapter 6, they all agree and follow along, yet they're so mind-blown when she reveals herself in chapter 8. So dumb!
flatearthpandas
Member
Interesting, I'll look into Stomp. I recently dropped Knight because it was doing crap damage compared to Monk and I wasn't really able to use all that defense to protect anyone (except with higher level Abilink skills).
puffyshirt
Banned
monk was a beast for me for a loooong time
DrROBschiz
Member
Yeah Monk remains good as well for regular attack combos but drops off quickly later on...
A shame really. I did have knuckle lore on my Thief and he would hit just as hard as a monk.
The best thing about Stomp is that it never misses and seems to benefit from stacking buffs. Once you unlock
Spell Fencer
You have to consider that Knight is has better stats, skills, and uses a sword (gets access to special attacks more often).
puffyshirt
Banned
Right now i'm rocking a Ninja/Thief, White Mage/Spiritmaster, Pirate/Spell Fencer, and Black Mage/Arcanist. It's been doing pretty well for me.
DrROBschiz
Member
Mid Chapter 3 and using
Thief/Freelancer
Valkyrie/Spellfencer
Ranger/Spellfencer
Redmage/Timemage
Having little issues so far
I share your feels, man.
Last time I heavily invested myself in a hardcore, real, turned based, JRPG like that was FFX. Before FFX it was FFVII. So yep, I won't complain.
D
Deleted member 125677
Unconfirmed Member
Holy shit, Tiz kicks serious ass right now
Monk: (lvl ~60)
- Natural Talent (monk)
- HP 20% up (monk)
- P. Atk 20 % up (pirate)
w/ Ranger ability
Multiburst Attack deals 9999 damage at each hit (x4) almost every time now
Downside: No immunities etc. Need a spiritmaster/white mage to take care of him every now and then
Monk: (lvl ~60)
- Natural Talent (monk)
- HP 20% up (monk)
- P. Atk 20 % up (pirate)
w/ Ranger ability
Multiburst Attack deals 9999 damage at each hit (x4) almost every time now
Downside: No immunities etc. Need a spiritmaster/white mage to take care of him every now and then
flatearthpandas
Member
I have really been enjoying
Spell Fencer
CrackPebbles
Member
Im on chapter 3 and enjoying it so far. But man even some of the most uncritical people I know have been saying the game kinda shits itself in later chapters.
Without spoilers, how bad is it? are we talking unplayable or is it more of a dmc4 situation where things just get a little repetitive level wise.
Without spoilers, how bad is it? are we talking unplayable or is it more of a dmc4 situation where things just get a little repetitive level wise.
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
Considering the changeable on the fly difficulty, the random encounters switch, sleep mode SP and everything else, who exactly is paying for Bravely Second?
Admiral Woofington
Member
Think DMC4 to an extent it's basically adding insult to injury. There's no way to give you the full extent of my disappointment without telling you what happens, so basically all you need to know is:
The game gives the really obvious vibe they ran out of money and did one of the cardinal sins of game length extenders.