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Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC

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Arozay

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RobotNinjaHornets said:
Lol at Tio's arm(?) falling from the ceiling in the background

Also how long before Jesse starts wondering why the Ricin was missing if Gus hadn't stolen it?

Also also HOLY FUCK. 'cause yeah. Holy fuck. I'm gonna miss Gus :(
Tio's chair is empty, he'll be back next season. Jizzface lives on!
 

blahness

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ZAK said:
What was Tyrus' beepybox supposed to find, anyway? Certainly not the weird mess of electronics hanging off Tio's chair in plain sight. If they're going to show Gus "taking precautions," then they have to explain why they didn't work.


Considering they found out that he had "talked" to the DEA the beepybox was to sweep for bugs/wires in the room to make sure that they were not being recorded. Wasnt a bomb detector
 
I watched it again last night. I don't think I have a problem with the Gus, the show has always balanced on believability for me. I always found it unbelievable that anyone bought Walt's 'blackout'. It always felt like a person as careful as Gus would never have made so many comprimises to work with Jesse and Walt to begin with. I always though Hank would catch on to the many many coincidenses, and how close Walt has been to all of the events involving the meth (maybe he does).
I still think the story and characters are great so fuck it, I never thought they would show it, and it was great.
 

BigAT

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blahness said:
Considering they found out that he had "talked" to the DEA the beepybox was to sweep for bugs/wires in the room to make sure that they were not being recorded. Wasnt a bomb detector
Also the bomb wasn't attached when he checked the room the first time. Walt is still there and is hiding until Tyrus leaves. Tyrus doesn't do a sweep of the room when Gus finally shows up.

Is there any way to get an MP3 of the Insider Podcast? I didn't see a download link anywhere on AMC's page.
 

ZAK

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blahness said:
Considering they found out that he had "talked" to the DEA the beepybox was to sweep for bugs/wires in the room to make sure that they were not being recorded. Wasnt a bomb detector
:^/

Well, I find that less plausible, then. He should have been on the lookout for an ambush. Again, he already magically dodged one. And what a big coincidence that this should happen while everything else is also falling to shit. That is very suspicious, isn't it? Especially if we're supposed to buy that he pieced together that Walt poisoned Brock, because then he knows Walt is pulling strings to try and nail him.
 

kehs

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BamYouHaveAids said:
I still don't like Gus death. They could have easily done the same thing except have him take shrapnel to the abdomen.


I feel the need to point out that Walt didn't make a shrapnel pipe bomb. It was a "melt you face off from the pressure" bomb.
 
ZAK said:
Well, how'd he know to wait for that? How'd he know there wouldn't be a second check after that? And the bomb was still not actually hidden at all.

Still, even considering all that, it's still more plausible than the scenario I thought had happened. So ok..

It was under the seat of Tio's wheelchair. I don't think it was in plain sight like you think it was. The only reason Gus was tipped off was because of the way Tio was ringing the bell, at which point he saw it. By then it was too late.
 

vatstep

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Expendable. said:
I started watching Breaking Bad for the first time 12 days ago. I'm now completely caught up. What a finale!
Damn, nice work, but personally, I feel like this is the last show I'd want to watch back to back to back, so on and so forth. I've always sort of liked the week long break between episodes to digest them, and to get some relief from how heavy the show can be on the viewer.
 

Stet

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BobTheFork said:
I watched it again last night. I don't think I have a problem with the Gus, the show has always balanced on believability for me. I always found it unbelievable that anyone bought Walt's 'blackout'. It always felt like a person as careful as Gus would never have made so many comprimises to work with Jesse and Walt to begin with. I always though Hank would catch on to the many many coincidenses, and how close Walt has been to all of the events involving the meth (maybe he does).
I still think the story and characters are great so fuck it, I never thought they would show it, and it was great.

The only person that actually bought the fugue state was Walt Jr.
 

mooooose

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Breaking Bad was grounded in mostly realism with some whacky black comedy since before Saul arrived. After that, it was downhill.

The show took a turn for the different, like many many shows do. Is it bad? No. They are still master story tellers, backed by the best directors and actors in TV. Is it a very different show? Absolutely.

The original season and a half were much more interesting, in my opinion.

HOWEVER.

Season 4, Episode 11.

That ending.

The most intense television I've ever seen. The ending shot was amazing. I loved every second of it.
 
vatstep said:
Damn, nice work, but personally, I feel like this is the last show I'd want to watch back to back to back, so on and so forth. I've always sort of liked the week long break between episodes to digest them, and to get some relief from how heavy the show can be on the viewer.

The show has a cinematic quality like few others, so it honestly felt like one awesome movie.
 
vatstep said:
Damn, nice work, but personally, I feel like this is the last show I'd want to watch back to back to back, so on and so forth. I've always sort of liked the week long break between episodes to digest them, and to get some relief from how heavy the show can be on the viewer.
Some shows I burned out on when I tried this (curb, sunny etc), but I watched seasons 1-3 in less than a week. I couldnt stop lol.
 
I know the episode ended with the great lily of the valley reveal but Walt should've started coughing a little bit when he ended the phone call with Skyler. Just to remind the audience his cancer might be coming back again and his time running out theme.
 

OneEightZero

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Two things:

If Mike was around, this would not have happened. And I think Walt was thankful for that.

Mike will find his feet again. Walt and Jesse aren't completely in the clear yet.

Either way, awesome finale. For a moment there, I thought Fring was a fucking T-800. So boss. ^_^
 

Blader

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ZAK said:
What was Tyrus' beepybox supposed to find, anyway? Certainly not the weird mess of electronics hanging off Tio's chair in plain sight. If they're going to show Gus "taking precautions," then they have to explain why they didn't work. Walt outsmarted Gus by...? What? I don't get it. Somehow his precautions just failed.

Gus has been putting himself out in the open to personally visit Tio all season. It wasn't just a sudden lapse in judgment, its been his major weakness the whole time.
 
If you cut out the last shot this would have been a somewhat satisfying series finale. I suppose not enough questions are answered, but I'm quite interested in what direction the final 16 episodes will head.
 
GREAT Grantland recap, dropping the mic at all the Walt-Lovers.

The final 16 episodes of Breaking Bad, however and whenever they’re shown, look to be not just an exercise in testing an audience’s investment in a thoroughly reprehensible lead character, of how hard we’ll look to find those last threads of mercy and humanity, but really, of how willingly we glorify the absence of those things. Soulless demons make for good t-shirts. Gilligan isn’t perpetually name-dropping Scarface for nothing.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/holly.../breaking-bad-finale-recap-plants-and-animals
 
BigAT said:
Also the bomb wasn't attached when he checked the room the first time. Walt is still there and is hiding until Tyrus leaves. Tyrus doesn't do a sweep of the room when Gus finally shows up.

Yep. If Walt had already planted the bomb, he wouldn't need to be hiding outside the window.
 
Blader5489 said:
Gus has been putting himself out in the open to personally visit Tio all season. It wasn't just a sudden lapse in judgment, its been his major weakness the whole time.
I get this, but as far as Gus knows Tio had just confessed to the DEA. Seems like something that would make him more cautious and not mindlessly reckless.
 
Lactose_Intolerant said:
The best bit was the magnet on the bomb sticking to the elevator door and the struggle to get it off the door. Lol.

Yep, lol, there were some good funny bits in this one. Saul's lines, Tio's trip to the DEA, Hank's reaction to Tio....I love when the show has that sly humor.
 
Where the F will the next season go? This could have been the final episode of the entire show. Antagonist dead, protagonists happy. Will Walt randomly try to be the next Gus or something? You would think that escaping that narrowly would make him go "Ooooooooh that was scary. Never again. I'mma go wash some cars"

Also, the random spots of goofiness (Gus walking away from an explosion, the Brothers) in this show make me wonder if the last shot of the last episode ever is going to be near death-by-cancer Walt waking up from a coma and saying that he had the craziest dream.
 

RevDM

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His ability to go in and out of character is one of the best I've seen. He goes from being the hardass with a thirst for blood to the friendly neighbor who thinks he left his stove on in a wink of an eye.
 
Ventilaator said:
Where the F will the next season go? This could have been the final episode of the entire show. Antagonist dead, protagonists happy. Will Walt randomly try to be the next Gus or something? You would think that escaping that narrowly would make him go "Ooooooooh that was scary. Never again. I'mma go wash some cars"

Also, the random spots of goofiness (Gus walking away from an explosion, the Brothers) in this show make me wonder if the last shot of the last episode ever is going to be near death-by-cancer Walt waking up from a coma and saying that he had the craziest dream.
I think next season it's going to be Gus' relatives coming down on Heisenberg.

When Don Eladio offed Gus' associate he said the only reason he left Gus alive is because of his relation to someone IIRC.

Mike is going to leave the hospital and be like, "what the fuck have you done"
 
Kind of regret reading this thread before watching the finale. It spoiled the face blown off and plant thing. If I would have went in cold on the plant thing I would have been shocked at that ending.
 
Yeah, does Walt need to make meth anymore? It seems like even though giving most of his current money to the guy that owed the IRS, they can have a fine life owning the car wash. I'm sure some more crazy shit will happen though.
 

Amir0x

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Ventilaator said:
Where the F will the next season go? This could have been the final episode of the entire show. Antagonist dead, protagonists happy. Will Walt randomly try to be the next Gus or something? You would think that escaping that narrowly would make him go "Ooooooooh that was scary. Never again. I'mma go wash some cars"

Also, the random spots of goofiness (Gus walking away from an explosion, the Brothers) in this show make me wonder if the last shot of the last episode ever is going to be near death-by-cancer Walt waking up from a coma and saying that he had the craziest dream.

Walt has had many occasions to leave the dangerous line of work he is in. He doesn't want to leave. He loves being in control. He loves that people love his 'formula', his pride and narcissism is overwhelming. He is not going to need convincing to stay in the line of work.

You think the monster Walt is going to put that monster back in its cage and try to live the quiet life of being walked all over and succeeding at nothing? He's too prideful to ever do that again. It's why instead of letting Hank think someone else cooked his formula, he guided him back on the right path. Repeat: Instead of letting a DEA agent think he caught the right guy, he put himself back in danger. That is how much Walt thinks of his job. He cannot even consider the idea of letting someone else take credit.

So, yes Walt is probably going to keep on cooking Meth. It's Mr. Chips to Scarface, as Vince Gilligan is fond of saying, which means at some point Scarface has to stop having a boss. He has to be the boss. This next season will be exploring that angle as far as I can see to even be remotely consistent with the driving narrative this show has had.




Also everyone knows Scarface dies at the end.
 
Ventilaator said:
Where the F will the next season go? This could have been the final episode of the entire show. Antagonist dead, protagonists happy.
Down the path Dexter keeps putting off. Getting what he deserves from a family member super detective.

Also, there's an enormous power vacuum, Walt has a massive ego and it just got a major stroking. No way does he pack it it.
 
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