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Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC

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Sean said:
Dunno, it didn't seem like Gus had much security in his office. We saw him simply close the lid on his laptop and walk out of the room.

I am sure they could easily explain this away (that it was just a live stream, or that one of Gus henchmen destroyed the recordings or something) but I hope they use this as a plot point. It'd be nice to see Gus screw over Walt from the dead.
Isn't the laundry blown up?
 

Sye d'Burns

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Hokuten said:
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Brilliant!
 

Grinchy

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mysticwhip said:
but the cameras are at the laundry/inside the lab.
Oh yeah...so even if they got his laptop, found out that he was streaming videos to himself from the laundromat, it wouldn't matter. Nothing is streaming any longer.

I feel like the videotape of Jesse cooking in Mexico could come up though.
 

Bloodsent

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Fry8 said:
I think it's clear that Jesse thinks Walt poisoned Brock. Do you think he'll bring that up on the next season?

I don't think that is the case at all. I think Jesse now believes that Brock ate some berries (cause he is a kid) and it was an accident. But as he asked Walt, "He had to go, right?"
 

Sean

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mysticwhip said:
but the cameras are at the laundry/inside the lab.

The cameras are no doubt destroyed now, but they were transmitting to Gus laptop off-site. If it was being recorded, they would just have to play back the last few minutes of footage.
 

Bloodsent

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Sean said:
The cameras are no doubt destroyed now, but they were transmitting to Gus laptop off-site. If it was being recorded, they would just have to play back the last few minutes of footage.

For someone as anal as Gus, I don't think he would allow that footage to be recorded. As far as he is concerned, he is the boss and it is for his eyes only. He doesn't need "evidence" or "proof" to carry out any decision that may come from the footage.
 
So before the finale people were posting interviews with Bryan Cranston where he seemed to imply that Hank would find out in the finale. I'm curious what exactly he said, anyone have a link to these interviews?
 

iammeiam

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The more I think about it, the more convinced I am Jesse is going to figure out Walt's role in Brock's poisoning next season. Walt's plan was excellent for handling the immediate issue--turning Jesse on Gus--but is really shady long-term. Jesse's smart enough to eventually realize his Ricen cigarette effectively vanished at the most convenient possible time for Walt, and Walt's whole "My god, Gus is brilliant, let me explain to you his plan that I just now figured out" thing was a retread of the last time he tried to convince Jesse to off Gus. Totally setting up a Jesse vs Walt ending. Preemptively joining Team Jesse, bitch.
 

Fry

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iammeiam said:
The more I think about it, the more convinced I am Jesse is going to figure out Walt's role in Brock's poisoning next season. Walt's plan was excellent for handling the immediate issue--turning Jesse on Gus--but is really shady long-term. Jesse's smart enough to eventually realize his Ricen cigarette effectively vanished at the most convenient possible time for Walt, and Walt's whole "My god, Gus is brilliant, let me explain to you his plan that I just now figured out" thing was a retread of the last time he tried to convince Jesse to off Gus. Totally setting up a Jesse vs Walt ending. Preemptively joining Team Jesse, bitch.

That's what I thought, but besides lying and poisoning him, the kid will live and his plan worked, and the plan working is from interest of both Jesse and Walt, so I don't think it should create a fight between them.
 

Oreoleo

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shadyspace said:
Don't see why Mike would give a shit. I'm sure they'll come up with some stupid reason, though.

Well he's out of a job now, for one thing. But that's merely the perfect excuse to work for Walt once he becomes the meth kingpin of the western US and Mexico.
 
Orellio said:
Well he's out of a job now, for one thing. But that's merely the perfect excuse to work for Walt once he becomes the meth kingpin of the western US and Mexico.
Yes. The logical thing would be to respond with a resounding "meh" and start enforcing for Walt. So naturally that won't happen.
 

gdt

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God daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.

Wowee what a finale. Sure seemed like a series finale to me. I bet Walt gets bored with the regular life next year, and tries to take over the entire world.
 

UrbanRats

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shadyspace said:
Don't see why Mike would give a shit. I'm sure they'll come up with some stupid reason, though.
I think that Mike could come into play, in a Jesse vs Walt scenario.
Mike hates Walt and kind of bonded with Jesse, plus Walt is responsible for all this mess, so..
 

Sean

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Bloodsent said:
For someone as anal as Gus, I don't think he would allow that footage to be recorded. As far as he is concerned, he is the boss and it is for his eyes only. He doesn't need "evidence" or "proof" to carry out any decision that may come from the footage.

I think it can go either way really. Either Gus recorded nothing to leave behind no trace of evidence, or he was so anal about what was going on that he recorded every minute (because surely he couldn't be sitting in front of his laptop 24/7).
 

water_wendi

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UrbanRats said:
I think that Mike could come into play, in a Jesse vs Walt scenario.
Mike hates Walt and kind of bonded with Jesse, plus Walt is responsible for all this mess, so..
i could see Mike laying low/moving on and then coming to advise/help Jesse against Walt.
 

UrbanRats

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I'm thinking with this "heisenberg mode" they're missing too much on character developement.
Walt used Jesse in the worst way possible in the last two episodes, and the video posted above, justified it as him in "Heisenberg mode" (since the end of crawl space).. but this is rather schizophrenic, if compared to the scene, for example, where Walt calls Walter Jr. "Jesse".
So he obviously has some affection for him, and yet he doesn't give a shit about him?!

Maybe Walt is just so amazingly arrogant, that he was firmly convinced that poisoning Brock(with a non-lethal method) would've been the right thing to do for everyone, and other people were just too dumb to understand it, but i don't know, it seems to me like this element it's becoming too gimmicky.
 

Yoboman

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UrbanRats said:
I think that Mike could come into play, in a Jesse vs Walt scenario.
Mike hates Walt and kind of bonded with Jesse, plus Walt is responsible for all this mess, so..
He hates Walt?

Funny I always thought he had a sort of respect for Walt
 
I think the most disappointing thing to me (beyond the predictability of it all) is that it didn't really tease S5 for us.

No clear direction which is a big red flag to me.
 

saunderez

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UrbanRats said:
Maybe Walt is just so amazingly arrogant, that he was firmly convinced that poisoning Brock(with a non-lethal method) would've been the right thing to do for everyone, and other people were just too dumb to understand it, but i don't know, it seems to me like this element it's becoming too gimmicky.
Of course that's it. He was back against the wall. He had to do something to turn Jesse on Gus before he got killed. When it's possibly kill or definitely be killed the choice seems kinda obvious, especially given Walt's past.
 

overcast

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Buckethead said:
I think the most disappointing thing to me (beyond the predictability of it all) is that it didn't really tease S5 for us.

No clear direction which is a big red flag to me.
That scares me a bit. I liked the finale quite a bit as a whole though.
 
Buckethead said:
I think the most disappointing thing to me (beyond the predictability of it all) is that it didn't really tease S5 for us.

No clear direction which is a big red flag to me.


That was because this was really close to being the last season.

They wanted to end it on a "high" note in case things fell through.


There are still TONS of questions to be answered. Especially the explorations of Hank, and most importantly, Walt lost most of his money again buying glass doors. lol
 
FantasticMrFoxdie said:
They wanted to end it on a "high" note in case things fell through.
Should it be a high note though?
The DEA will be on high alert, Ted is dead or has his neck broken after Skylar's direct involvement, and Jesse just put the FBI on his ass.

I mean taking out Gus is nice and all but at what cost?

It doesn't seem logical they'd be on a high right now.
 

overcast

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Walt should be on a high, he killed Gus. The ending is Walt being thoroughly satisfied with his victory over Gus.

Obviously he is screwed.
 
So, does anyone think the show might jump forward in time, a bit? Like 2 years down the line and Walt is controlling the meth scene? Or will it pick up right after the finale?
 

saunderez

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Buckethead said:
The DEA will be on high alert, Ted is dead or has his neck broken after Skylar's direct involvement, and Jesse just put the FBI on his ass.
Why would the DEA be on high alert? The cartel is dead, they weren't investigating Gus Fring (and he's dead anyway). Hank must be feeling like this is case closed right now. Don't know how Ted's death can possibly be traced back to Skyler and Jesse got released by the FBI because, you know, it wasn't ricin that poisoned Brock.

Yeah, it ended on a high. Walt is safe from Gus now. Jesse and Walt have made up. None of the main cast is dead. Definitely a high.
 
overcast said:
Walt should be on a high, he killed Gus. The ending is Walt being thoroughly satisfied with his victory over Gus.

Obviously he is screwed.
Yeah. Walt's pride will take over and be his undoing.

People talked a lot of shit about that Rolling Stone article awhile ago but it was right on the money.

Black Mamba said:
So, does anyone think the show might jump forward in time, a bit? Like 2 years down the line and Walt is controlling the meth scene? Or will it pick up right after the finale?
No chance; they just blew up their lab. Where would they cook from? How would they assemble a staff? With what money?
 

UrbanRats

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saunderez said:
Of course that's it. He was back against the wall. He had to do something to turn Jesse on Gus before he got killed. When it's possibly kill or definitely be killed the choice seems kinda obvious, especially given Walt's past.
Yeah but it's the attitude.
He always treats Jesse like shit, he sees him struggle and still doesn't seems to give a shit at times.
 
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