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Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC

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A friend recommended me this the other day so I know absolutely nothing about this series, but this morning I was spoiled by that stupid, surreal gif of that black guy getting his face ruined and then dropping dead. I don't feel like searching through plot summary sites in fear of other spoilers, so could anyone please tell me if other crazy stuff also happens in previous seasons?
 

SpeedingUptoStop

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_dementia said:
Did Walt do any acting in the past or anything? That was an emmy-winning performance he gave Jesse in episode 12.
I guess there's a history of Heisenberg acting well, like when he got the drop on Mike in the S3 finale and all.
 
General Shank-a-snatch said:
A friend recommended me this the other day so I know absolutely nothing about this series, but this morning I was spoiled by that stupid, surreal gif of that black guy getting his face ruined and then dropping dead. I don't feel like searching through plot summary sites in fear of other spoilers, so could anyone please tell me if other crazy stuff also happens in previous seasons?
Yes. Plenty of crazy stuff happens.
 

kehs

Banned
General Shank-a-snatch said:
A friend recommended me this the other day so I know absolutely nothing about this series, but this morning I was spoiled by that stupid, surreal gif of that black guy getting his face ruined and then dropping dead. I don't feel like searching through plot summary sites in fear of other spoilers, so could anyone please tell me if other crazy stuff also happens in previous seasons?

That's from a blooper reel.
 

dave is ok

aztek is ok
General Shank-a-snatch said:
A friend recommended me this the other day so I know absolutely nothing about this series, but this morning I was spoiled by that stupid, surreal gif of that black guy getting his face ruined and then dropping dead. I don't feel like searching through plot summary sites in fear of other spoilers, so could anyone please tell me if other crazy stuff also happens in previous seasons?
Crazy stuff happens from episode 1 on.
 
iammeiam said:
I think it's true that Walt believes he puts his family before all else, but in reality they come in maybe second. Before Walt's sense of self-preservation, but behind his ego. He'll put himself in danger to save them, but he's repeatedly rejected anything that might threaten his pride (the pity job, going to the DEA with what he knows, etc). And it's pretty telling that his message to Skyler isn't "We're safe." or "It's finally over." His message is "I won."
This. Walt isn't the "good guy having to do bad" anymore, he's ultimately out for himself, and his family has become very obviously secondary.
 
GavinGT said:
Next season opens with Huel performing a magic show. Then it cuts to Walt disposing of the plant.

I hope Walt remembers to throw the plant away, thats the first thing I thought of after finding out that Walt did indeed use it to poison Brock.
 
I think it's pretty clear there's going to be one more bad guy. We know that Gus Fring is not his real name and that he has other connections that made it so that the cartel couldn't kill him. Who knows what kind of powerful people Gus was in bed with?
 

maharg

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ScrabbleDude said:
I think it's pretty clear there's going to be one more bad guy. We know that Gus Fring is not his real name and that he has other connections that made it so that the cartel couldn't kill him. Who knows what kind of powerful people Gus was in bed with?

Ted. He was in bed with Ted.
 

GavinGT

Banned
ScrabbleDude said:
I think it's pretty clear there's going to be one more bad guy. We know that Gus Fring is not his real name and that he has other connections that made it so that the cartel couldn't kill him. Who knows what kind of powerful people Gus was in bed with?

I thought it was just that the cartel needed him for distribution purposes?
 

AVclub

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General Shank-a-snatch said:
A friend recommended me this the other day so I know absolutely nothing about this series, but this morning I was spoiled by that stupid, surreal gif of that black guy getting his face ruined and then dropping dead. I don't feel like searching through plot summary sites in fear of other spoilers, so could anyone please tell me if other crazy stuff also happens in previous seasons?
The show is a drama which frequently features pretty fucked up situations. It's intense, funny, sad, scary, and exciting. It's also some of the best television on television. And that's not just me talking, that's what the Emmys have decided for the last few seasons. If you aren't watching it, you should be.
 
I don't understand how Walt didn't have enough money for the cleaner guy.

He makes 7 million a year, they spend $800k on the car wash and sklyer gives beneker $617k or whatever, that's a total of like $1.5m, both Walt and Jesse had way more money than that I'm sure, the way I calculated it, before they even really started working in the super lab for Gus they had $1.5m each, then Walt was making about $135k per week from Gus at $7m each out of the $15m cooks package. From what it looked like, Walt had only $200k left or something, I'm sure he worked for Gus for at least 6 months right? That's $3.5m, there should have been way more cash, take out Saul's cut, expenses here and there and there is still more than enough over flow of cash... That's a plot hole IMO.
 

harSon

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For some reason,
Tio getting revenge on Gus rubbed me the wrong way. Unlike Gus, I held zero sympathy for his situation considering how shit of a human being he was before becoming wheel chair bound.
 
ColonialRaptor said:
I don't understand how Walt didn't have enough money for the cleaner guy.

He makes 7 million a year, they spend $800k on the car wash and sklyer gives beneker $617k or whatever, that's a total of like $1.5m, both Walt and Jesse had way more money than that I'm sure, the way I calculated it, before they even really started working in the super lab for Gus they had $1.5m each, then Walt was making about $135k per week from Gus at $7m each out of the $15m cooks package. From what it looked like, Walt had only $200k left or something, I'm sure he worked for Gus for at least 6 months right? That's $3.5m, there should have been way more cash, take out Saul's cut, expenses here and there and there is still more than enough over flow of cash... That's a plot hole IMO.

Hank's medical expense.

And I don't think he had worked for Gust for 6 months. 2-3 months max. Remember, the entire show (seasons 1 through 4) has only taken place in about a year.
 
tycoonheart said:
I hope Walt remembers to throw the plant away, that's the first thing I thought of after finding out that Walt did indeed use it to poison Brock.
Why would you hope he doesn't get caught? That wouldn't make for very compelling television.
 
_dementia said:
Why would you hope he doesn't get caught? That wouldn't make for very compelling television.

Because I feel the Jesse vs Walt angle has been done way too many times and rehashing it against for the last season is something I guess I'm not too excited about. Walt has been able to keep his lips shut about the Jane situation so I think he will do the same with this.
 

BigAT

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ColonialRaptor said:
I don't understand how Walt didn't have enough money for the cleaner guy.

He makes 7 million a year, they spend $800k on the car wash and sklyer gives beneker $617k or whatever, that's a total of like $1.5m, both Walt and Jesse had way more money than that I'm sure, the way I calculated it, before they even really started working in the super lab for Gus they had $1.5m each, then Walt was making about $135k per week from Gus at $7m each out of the $15m cooks package. From what it looked like, Walt had only $200k left or something, I'm sure he worked for Gus for at least 6 months right? That's $3.5m, there should have been way more cash, take out Saul's cut, expenses here and there and there is still more than enough over flow of cash... That's a plot hole IMO.
He really hasn't worked for Gus that long under the $7M/year deal. I'm not positive on the exact figures, but he hasn't earned close to $7 million from Gus.

There's a lot more expenses you're not considering as well. Walt still has his own medical bills that he has been paying, as well as the medical and rehab bills for Hank. Keep in mind that all of those are with no health insurance factored in, at which point medical bills can get outrageous. Plus there's the apartment/condo that Walt buys for himself (straight cash homey), the fact that he seems to destroy a brand new car every other week, expensive illegal guns, the costs of raising a disabled child and a newborn...it all adds up very quickly.
 
tycoonheart said:
Hank's medical expense.

And I don't think he had worked for Gust for 6 months. 2-3 months max. Remember, the entire show (seasons 1 through 4) has only taken place in about a year.
No way. You don't get cancer, treatment and then go into remission in only the course of a year, is this correct that the timeline is only a year? It can't be only one year.

Yep I didn't include Hank's medical bills, but even still, I doubt they totaled $2m, otherwise Hank and Marie would be getting a little "fishy" as to where the money was coming from.

I know Hank still thinks that insurance is paying / paid for it, but there is no way that Marie would believe that Walt won $3m+ gambling right?

I still think there is missing money.
 
maharg said:
I'm sure they're piling on ways Walt has wronged Jesse just so they can ignore them in the last season. ;)

Somebody posted a link (several pages ago) of an interview with Gilligan where he said they ended the way they ended it this season thinking they weren't even going to have a Season 5. So if they were content with theoretically having the show end with Walt "winning", then I'm thinking they wouldn't hesitate to have Walt "win" again next season.
 

maharg

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ColonialRaptor said:
No way. You don't get cancer, treatment and then go into remission in only the course of a year, is this correct that the timeline is only a year? It can't be only one year.

In the episode late this season where Walt is getting tests done he says he was diagnosed somewhere around a year ago.

And yes, all that can happen in a year. Why would you think it couldn't?


tycoonheart said:
Somebody posted a link (several pages ago) of an interview with Gilligan where he said they ended the way they ended it this season thinking they weren't even going to have a Season 5. So if they were content with theoretically having the show end with Walt "winning", then I'm thinking they wouldn't hesitate to have Walt "win" again next season.

That doesn't mean it's their ideal ending, and I don't think it's quite the positive "hey they're buddies now" kind of ending a lot of people think it is. There's definite sinister undertones to it.

Also, I think if it *had* been the last season they probably wouldn't have done the plant zoom, which would have given a completely different tone to the ending. Probably why we were left so out of the loop about what Walt did, too, so they could left it plausible that Gus did actually do it.
 
BigAT said:
He really hasn't worked for Gus that long under the $7M/year deal. I'm not positive on the exact figures, but he hasn't earned close to $7 million from Gus.

There's a lot more expenses you're not considering as well. Walt still has his own medical bills that he has been paying, as well as the medical and rehab bills for Hank. Keep in mind that all of those are with no health insurance factored in, at which point medical bills can get outrageous. Plus there's the apartment/condo that Walt buys for himself (straight cash homey), the fact that he seems to destroy a brand new car every other week, expensive illegal guns, the costs of raising a disabled child and a newborn...it all adds up very quickly.
But even if there was only 6 months of work for Gus, that's $3.5m plus the $1.5 for the van cooked stuff that they did before (thats what they got right, $3m split 50:50?).

That's a total of $5m that Walt has had... That is A TON of money to burn through in that considerably short amount of time.
 

PooBone

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So I've been playing catch up on Breaking Bad and finally last night watched the season 4 finale. HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

I'd be satisfied if it were the end of the entire series, but I'm so thankful it's not.
 

Nemo

Will Eat Your Children
Anyone else think Honeytits (and maybe even Saul) knew about Walt's poisoning scheme, thus the extortion money? I always thought the scene was kinda vague
 
GavinGT said:
I thought it was just that the cartel needed him for distribution purposes?
Not originally. If you look at the flashback when Gus' partner was killed by Hector, the cartel boss told Gus he didn't kill him because he knew who he was. They weren't even in business together at that point.
 

PooBone

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General Shank-a-snatch said:
A friend recommended me this the other day so I know absolutely nothing about this series, but this morning I was spoiled by that stupid, surreal gif of that black guy getting his face ruined and then dropping dead. I don't feel like searching through plot summary sites in fear of other spoilers, so could anyone please tell me if other crazy stuff also happens in previous seasons?
Everything that happens in the show is extremely believable. The way the show is written and the way the characters behave is all extremely realistic and not hard to picture happening in real life. The particular shot you saw was just to trick the viewer into thinking the guy in the picture survived, but then of course you find out that he didn't.

Teetris said:
Anyone else think Honeytits (and maybe even Saul) knew about Walt's poisoning scheme, thus the extortion money? I always thought the scene was kinda vague

Well didn't he get the cigarette from Jesse via Saul's bodyguard patting him down?
 

Servbot #42

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Wow i just finished watching the finale, wow. That was truly awesome, i almost can't believe Walt was the one who poisoned the kid, there's no going back for him now.
I also liked that there's zero indication where the final season will be about, man i can't wait for the final season!
Also i'm fucking glad i didn't see that spoiler pic that was going around here, i would have been pissed because i would have spoiled myself without even knowing.
 

mblitek

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Did anyone else catch this!?

A frame from the opening of this season's Breaking Bad (in Gale's apartment). Those who watch will get it.
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Akia

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biggersmaller said:
Fring wears a clip-on tie. I find that very disappointing.

He only wears a clip-on when he's in his Pollos working uniform. He wears the cheap stuff to blend in with the rest of his employees.
 

Stet

Banned
Teetris said:
Anyone else think Honeytits (and maybe even Saul) knew about Walt's poisoning scheme, thus the extortion money? I always thought the scene was kinda vague
Yeah, I assumed it when she said, "I'm not surprised you two are in danger, after the stupid stunt you pulled."

The show wanted it to read as if she meant that they're in danger after calling the DEA about Hank, but it could also mean the poisoning scheme.
 
THE-Pink-Dagger said:
Mmmmmmmm, good catch here. I really didn't think of that, could be the case. But I doubt they get enough time to introduce a new villain.

16 episode final season. Plenty of time to introduce new villain, IMO.
 
Thanks for the replies, especially the one explaining that the show is believable. I kinda thought that it would be surreal black humor which has people surviving things that should have killed them instantly and I'm not really a fan of that genre.
 

RevDM

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So why is this show ending? Is it because the directors/producers feel like they have told the story and don't want to beat it into the ground?
 

Vlad

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ColonialRaptor said:
But even if there was only 6 months of work for Gus, that's $3.5m plus the $1.5 for the van cooked stuff that they did before (thats what they got right, $3m split 50:50?).

That's a total of $5m that Walt has had... That is A TON of money to burn through in that considerably short amount of time.

Regarding the initial deal with Gus, I could have sworn it was more like 1.5 million total for the remaining meth, so considering the removal of Saul's cut, we're looking at less than 750k each for that.

Beyond that, there's no way that they were working in Gus' lab for six months. The entire first three seasons took place over about seven months, and the fourth season looks to have taken a bit over a month of time.

I've probably done this before in this thread at some point, but it bears repeating. Take a look here. The show's been pretty good about keeping a consistent timeline going. Walt started working in the lab at the end of "Mas", which took place 26 weeks and three days after the pilot. The third season ended at 31 weeks, meaning that by the end of S3, Walt had only been working at the lab for a bit under five weeks. Throw in another month or so for the section of S4 leading up to him getting fired, then that's, what, 9-10 weeks of work? He said he was bringing in 200k or so a week, so let's say he earned 2 million for his work in S3-S4. Let's be generous and give him 700k for the original Gus deal after Saul's cut. That gives us 2.7 million, give or take.

Taking out 600k for Ted and 800k for the car wash brings us down to 1.3 million.

Beyond that, we're down to the unknown expenses, but consider what he paid for. There's the apartment, various fees for Saul, two cars for Jr, a substantially marked-up revolver, and then there's the medical bills.

Walt not only was paying for top of the line physical therapy for hank completely in cash, but he also funded his own treatment almost completely out of pocket. He was still employed by the school during his surgery, but it was established in the pilot that he didn't have great insurance, so for me, it's perfectly believable that just the medical costs were enough to drain the rest of his funds.
 

GavinGT

Banned
Of course we're still supposed to sympathize with Walt. Why else would they show so clearly his relief that Broc was alright? And I don't care if Amirox comes in here spouting his same broken-record bullshit, either.

Also, has it been established whether Gus records the video footage that's streamed to his computer? It's kind of crazy that Walt seemingly wouldn't consider this. Who knows, maybe next episode he breaks in to LPH and steals the tapes or something?
 
Cornballer said:
"Man. The world is a strange place. This last year has taught me that you really never
know what's gonna come smack you in the face... or shoot you four times and then try to
chop your freaking head off. Maybe all this bullshit is a sign. Time to change your life,
time to change your friends... time to move far, far, far away.
"

Hank leaving confirmed. Cue Heisenberg becoming a Kingpin.
 

Nemo

Will Eat Your Children
Stet said:
Yeah, I assumed it when she said, "I'm not surprised you two are in danger, after the stupid stunt you pulled."

The show wanted it to read as if she meant that they're in danger after calling the DEA about Hank, but it could also mean the poisoning scheme.
Yeah it has to be

PooBone said:
Well didn't he get the cigarette from Jesse via Saul's bodyguard patting him down?
Ah shit! I forgot. This confirms it!!
 
FantasticMrFoxdie said:
"Man. The world is a strange place. This last year has taught me that you really never
know what's gonna come smack you in the face... or shoot you four times and then try to
chop your freaking head off. Maybe all this bullshit is a sign. Time to change your life,
time to change your friends... time to move far, far, far away.
"

Hank leaving confirmed. Cue Heisenberg becoming a Kingpin.
Is Hank's blog canon?
 
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