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Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC

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CCF23

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mxgt said:
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"Chemistry is the study of matter. But I prefer to see it as the study of change."
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Kind of the show in a nutshell, isn't it? The writing is so good.
 
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Puddles

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That Apparat song is fucking godly. I've watched Gus's walk to the nursing home at least 6-7x now. Such an amazing scene.

It really does feel like something out of a Sergio Leone film.
 
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brianjones

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Puddles said:
That Apparat song is fucking godly. I've watched Gus's walk to the nursing home at least 6-7x now. Such an amazing scene.

It really does feel like something out of a Sergio Leone film.
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i don't think sergio leone does slow mo walking scenes
 
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GavinGT

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FantasticMrFoxdie said:
It just hit me...

Gonna be a year before we get more Breaking Bad

;_;

Respect the Chemistry.
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Fuck. So many of my favorite shows just ended. At least I got Walking Dead, Bored to Death, and new Beavis and Butthead (!) right around the corner, though.


Puddles said:
That Apparat song is fucking godly. I've watched Gus's walk to the nursing home at least 6-7x now. Such an amazing scene.

It really does feel like something out of a Sergio Leone film.
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Hearing on the podcast how much Gilligan loves the opening to Once Upon a Time in the West makes me love him even more.
 
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Heh:

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You know, he's made plenty of pissed-off-as-fuck, vitriolic expressions in the scenes he's had on the show, but that one somehow topped them all. He must've been saving that one for his final scene all along. Just pure evil.
 
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Psychotext

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vatstep said:
You know, he's made plenty of pissed-off-as-fuck, vitriolic expressions in the scenes he's had on the show, but that one somehow topped them all. He must've been saving that one for his final scene all along. Just pure evil.
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Yup. Fucking scary. He did a fantastic job.
 
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Psychotext said:
Yup. Fucking scary. He did a fantastic job.
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He will always be Mr. Shickadance from Ace Ventura to me.

And I love how they handled that explosion. The door blowing out, the excessive debris... It's so "oomphy".
 
ColonialRaptor

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Vlad said:
Regarding the initial deal with Gus, I could have sworn it was more like 1.5 million total for the remaining meth, so considering the removal of Saul's cut, we're looking at less than 750k each for that.

Beyond that, there's no way that they were working in Gus' lab for six months. The entire first three seasons took place over about seven months, and the fourth season looks to have taken a bit over a month of time.

I've probably done this before in this thread at some point, but it bears repeating. Take a look here. The show's been pretty good about keeping a consistent timeline going. Walt started working in the lab at the end of "Mas", which took place 26 weeks and three days after the pilot. The third season ended at 31 weeks, meaning that by the end of S3, Walt had only been working at the lab for a bit under five weeks. Throw in another month or so for the section of S4 leading up to him getting fired, then that's, what, 9-10 weeks of work? He said he was bringing in 200k or so a week, so let's say he earned 2 million for his work in S3-S4. Let's be generous and give him 700k for the original Gus deal after Saul's cut. That gives us 2.7 million, give or take.

Taking out 600k for Ted and 800k for the car wash brings us down to 1.3 million.

Beyond that, we're down to the unknown expenses, but consider what he paid for. There's the apartment, various fees for Saul, two cars for Jr, a substantially marked-up revolver, and then there's the medical bills.

Walt not only was paying for top of the line physical therapy for hank completely in cash, but he also funded his own treatment almost completely out of pocket. He was still employed by the school during his surgery, but it was established in the pilot that he didn't have great insurance, so for me, it's perfectly believable that just the medical costs were enough to drain the rest of his funds.
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And I get by on less than $40k a year... Fucken hell.

Puts things into perspective don't it.
 
ColonialRaptor

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Does anyone else think that Hank knows that Walt is the chemistry mastermind behind the blue meth but his quest to find Gus was basically his quest to convince himself not to believe that it was Walt?

Now that Walt was out during the whole time Gus went down etc etc, well, Hank is right about Gus but he can't be certain about Walt either, I think the thought has crossed his mind many a time, surely he has noticed the way Walt has changed from the bumbling idiot school teacher nerd to the hard arse, stone cold killer Walt that he is now?

Think about it all...

W. W. in Gale's notebook, easily diverted to the astronomer by Walt, almost like he'd seen it before.
The Blue Meth the is "old school".
The millions of dollars from "gambling".
The time alone spent "gambling".
The connection to Pinkman.
The lead that led to trying to find Walt ended up with Hank shooting Tuco.
The stalling on the visit to the chicken place allowing time to clean up (of course bank doesn't know this but he might suspect).
The Hisenerg name itself... What drug lord would think of that name other than Walt?
But... The most obtrusive piece of evidence of all is the laundry, Walt freaks out about going to the laundry and causes a car accident to stop it from happening, the most suspicious act yet, then a week later the laundry super meth lab goes up in flames? Hmm.

I just think he knows it but he just won't allow himself to say it or believe it and he's known it for a long time. Because, god damn, there is so much evidence against Walt right now, circumstantial as it may be... Still.

But how do you prove it without catching him in the act? I wonder if Gus recorded all the work that Walt and Jesse did in the lab, I assume not, but Gus would have to have some kind of "back-up" plan for when he died right? In the event of his death?
 
triplestation

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ColonialRaptor said:
Does anyone else think that Hank knows that Walt is the chemistry mastermind behind the blue meth but his quest to find Gus was basically his quest to convince himself not to believe that it was Walt?

Now that Walt was out during the whole time Gus went down etc etc, well, Hank is right about Gus but he can't be certain about Walt either, I think the thought has crossed his mind many a time, surely he has noticed the way Walt has changed from the bumbling idiot school teacher nerd to the hard arse, stone cold killer Walt that he is now?

Think about it all...

W. W. in Gale's notebook, easily diverted to the astronomer by Walt, almost like he'd seen it before.
The Blue Meth the is "old school".
The millions of dollars from "gambling".
The time alone spent "gambling".
The connection to Pinkman.
The lead that led to trying to find Walt ended up with Hank shooting Tuco.
The stalling on the visit to the chicken place allowing time to clean up (of course bank doesn't know this but he might suspect).
The Hisenerg name itself... What drug lord would think of that name other than Walt?
But... The most obtrusive piece of evidence of all is the laundry, Walt freaks out about going to the laundry and causes a car accident to stop it from happening, the most suspicious act yet, then a week later the laundry super meth lab goes up in flames? Hmm.

I just think he knows it but he just won't allow himself to say it or believe it and he's known it for a long time. Because, god damn, there is so much evidence against Walt right now, circumstantial as it may be... Still.

But how do you prove it without catching him in the act? I wonder if Gus recorded all the work that Walt and Jesse did in the lab, I assume not, but Gus would have to have some kind of "back-up" plan for when he died right? In the event of his death?
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Yeah, I've been thinking the same since the W.W. incident.
 
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Jack Scofield

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No. Hank still sees Walk as the bumbling pushover he's known for years. Hank has shown absolutely no indication that he suspects Walt in any way, shape, or form.
 
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FantasticMrFoxdie

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ColonialRaptor said:
Does anyone else think that Hank knows that Walt is the chemistry mastermind behind the blue meth but his quest to find Gus was basically his quest to convince himself not to believe that it was Walt?

Now that Walt was out during the whole time Gus went down etc etc, well, Hank is right about Gus but he can't be certain about Walt either, I think the thought has crossed his mind many a time, surely he has noticed the way Walt has changed from the bumbling idiot school teacher nerd to the hard arse, stone cold killer Walt that he is now?

Think about it all...

W. W. in Gale's notebook, easily diverted to the astronomer by Walt, almost like he'd seen it before.
The Blue Meth the is "old school".
The millions of dollars from "gambling".
The time alone spent "gambling".
The connection to Pinkman.
The lead that led to trying to find Walt ended up with Hank shooting Tuco.
The stalling on the visit to the chicken place allowing time to clean up (of course bank doesn't know this but he might suspect).
The Hisenerg name itself... What drug lord would think of that name other than Walt?
But... The most obtrusive piece of evidence of all is the laundry, Walt freaks out about going to the laundry and causes a car accident to stop it from happening, the most suspicious act yet, then a week later the laundry super meth lab goes up in flames? Hmm.

I just think he knows it but he just won't allow himself to say it or believe it and he's known it for a long time. Because, god damn, there is so much evidence against Walt right now, circumstantial as it may be... Still.

But how do you prove it without catching him in the act? I wonder if Gus recorded all the work that Walt and Jesse did in the lab, I assume not, but Gus would have to have some kind of "back-up" plan for when he died right? In the event of his death?
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For a second, yeah, but Gus Fring makes more logical sense from Hanks P.O.V. Especially since his all the money/equipment basically points to him
 
triplestation

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Jack Scofield said:
No. Hank still sees Walk as the bumbling pushover he's known for years. Hank has shown absolutely no indication that he suspects Walt in any way, shape, or form.
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You don't physically indicate you're suspicious of someone, it's all internal. The multiple private conversations between Walt and Hank all showed Hank with a curious eye.
 
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Poimandres

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I think Gus death was a little too easy.

He threatens to kill Walts family, the DEA gets a tip off, then he sits around twiddling his thumbs while Walt cooks up bombs and concocts schemes to off him?

The attempt made by the goons was alright, but seemed like a bit of a "half measure".

I won.
 
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brianjones

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he should have survived the explosion and continued on as two face

final scene should have been him calling walt out of nowhere and saying i cant be killed that easily

the third dead person was the old lady next door
 
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Poimandres said:
I think Gus death was a little too easy.

He threatens to kill Walts family, the DEA gets a tip off, then he sits around twiddling his thumbs while Walt cooks up bombs and concocts schemes to off him?

The attempt made by the goons was alright, but seemed like a bit of a "half measure".

I won.
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The goons were the FBI.
 
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impirius

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I really like Marie as long as she's not the main focus of a subplot (e.g. kleptomania). Her insistence that Hank wasn't going anywhere followed by the smash cut to the DEA office was laugh-out-loud funny.
 
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