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Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC

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cacophony said:
Holy shit

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Gomez' face is amazing.
 
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SpeedingUptoStop

will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
It’s been almost a week since Breaking Bad’s insane season finale, and we still can’t stop talking about it. We've even turned it into a craft project of sorts. So when we saw Giancarlo Esposito, whose character Gustavo Fring has quite the explosive scene in the episode, at the opening of The Mountaintop on Broadway last night, we had a few things to go over with him. Eagerly. [Spoilers ahead.]

For starters, how did he find out his character was going to get killed off? “Vince came and spoke to me and said, ‘You know, I want to kill Gus off.’ It was a very funny moment, actually. We were having a conversation in his office and he got up to close the door and I said, ‘Don’t close the door,’ and he said, ‘No, I want to close the door.’ And I said, ‘No, you’re not closing the door.’ ‘No, I want to close the door.’ ‘No, DON’T close the door!’ And finally I allowed him to close the door because I knew what he was going to say. And then I said, ‘If it’s going to happen, it’s got to happen in a very fantastic way.’”

Fantastic it was, and not just because it involved a bomb and half of Gus’s face getting ripped off, but because of one subtle, post-blast detail: Zombie Gus taking a second to straighten his tie before dropping dead. “[Vince] came to me and said, ‘Okay, if we do have an explosion, maybe blow your head off or blow part of your face off, what do you think he might be doing? Would you be straightening your tie?’ And I said, ‘You’ve been watching me well over the weeks, because Gus always straightens his tie and buttons his buttons when he gets up out of a chair.’ So he says, ‘Oh, okay great, so you approve?' And I said, ‘I think straightening a tie would be the way to go.’ That would be a very unconscious thing that a gentleman would do, but Gus is very meticulous, so would it be unconscious? It would probably be very conscious. He wants to make sure he goes out in a certain way.”

As for how his gruesome two-face came together, he told Vulture that it was the result of “five hours in a chair in California. Casting my head … they actually made half of my face and glued it on with the craters and the makeup. Five hours in the chair to do that, after which they did some digital enhancing and then we had it.”

So not quite as simple as putting on Vulture's Gus Fring Halloween mask, which we then took the opportunity to tell him about. "Are you serious? You gotta get me one!" he said, handing us his card. "My e-mail’s there, my phone’s there as well. So reach out." We already have. Because when Gus Fring gives you an order, you listen. Unless you're Walter White.
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Amir0x

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THE-Pink-Dagger said:
Glad to hear it, but you are wrong, period. I will not discuss this any further.
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well i've been right about everything so far, and it seems you've been wrong, so I don't know why suddenly this would change now.

Can't wait for Season 5 since there can be no going back and now you've gone and put yourself in a corner. :p

*saves posts for entertaining future*
 
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thekad

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maharg said:
I could never get into The Wire for some reason, even though I forced myself to grind through almost all of it.

I found myself fairly amazed at some individual scenes/episodes, but overall it just never did it for me. I also think its realism is overblown, with almost all of that realism concentrated on the cops while the criminals are almost cartoonish and, imo, pretty shallow. Not surprising given that it was created by cops and crime journos.
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Really? D'Angelo, Bodie, Marlo, STRINGER M'FIN BELL? And in comparison to the Shield... Well, there is no comparison.
 
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overcast

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BigAT said:
It's amazing to see how scared and vulnerable Walt is at the end of Box Cutter and compare it to how dominate and confidant he is with "Gus is dead." and "I won."
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I had forgot how good that ending was. I haven't seen any of the eps twice from this season. Seriously a great show.

I love how these actors seem to have fun at these parties with each other. Really cool to see.

My friend saw an image of Gus with a "hole in his face". He just started season 3. I hate the internet sometimes.
 
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maharg

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thekad said:
Really? D'Angelo, Bodie, Marlo, STRINGER M'FIN BELL? And in comparison to the Shield... Well, there is no comparison.
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Sure, because the two shows weren't trying to achieve anywhere near the same things. A superficial similarity in name does not a valid comparison make.

The Shield obviously never put any effort into creating compelling criminals. Vic was the only criminal that mattered.

The criminals in The Wire are all of a kind. Noble criminals, often much smarter or more cultured than their cop counterparts, even as they speak in street slang. Often cleaner and more family oriented as well. There's a really strange inversion of reality to their characters that strikes me as cartoonish when I watch it. It's almost like if you took a bunch of white collar criminals and planted them in the hood to see what happens.

Aaaand back to the show this thread is about:

It kind of bugs me when people talk about the metaphysical 'death' of Walt and replacement with some alternate personality named Heisenberg. I think this is a really disingenuous way to look at his character. To me it's always been Walt and still is. Treating it like he had some inversion or destruction of character to bring him to where he is feels wrong to me. Walt's hubris lead him down this path, and it's still his hubris that dictates his every move.
 
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Zeliard

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maharg said:
Sure, because the two shows weren't trying to achieve anywhere near the same things. A superficial similarity in name does not a valid comparison make.

The Shield obviously never put any effort into creating compelling criminals. Vic was the only criminal that mattered.

The criminals in The Wire are all of a kind. Noble criminals, often much smarter or more cultured than their cop counterparts, even as they speak in street slang. Often cleaner and more family oriented as well. There's a really strange inversion of reality to their characters that strikes me as cartoonish when I watch it. It's almost like if you took a bunch of white collar criminals and planted them in the hood to see what happens.
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I don't think the intention was so much to paint them as noble but rather as caught in a cycle they can't really get out of, with the show shifting the blame largely to societal establishments.

The show's primary point was about the nature of institutions and how we're all governed and trapped by them in one form or another. It never shied away from showing the many violent and depraved acts committed by the guys on the street, and also we also got a major divergence in leadership styles with guys like Marlo Stanfield, Avon Barksdale and Stringer Bell.

But yes not a thread about The Wire. :p
 
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mysticwhip

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Scenes for next emmy awards? my picks
Cranston: crying scene or crawl space ending
aaron paul:go karting scene, sound system scene or AA meeting

they got a bunch to choose from.
 
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mattiewheels

And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
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Gonna miss him. I loved how it looked like he was trying to kill everyone with just his face.
 
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C.Dark.DN

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Amir0x said:
well i've been right about everything so far, and it seems you've been wrong, so I don't know why suddenly this would change now.
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I'm really glad you got de-modded. And it was for good reason. You think you're always right, superior, insult people.

At the end of season 5, people are going to look back and see the type of poster you become.

The downward spiral.

It's funny, because your life has involved a lot of drugs. Heh.

Kind of parallels to the show.
 
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vatstep

This poster pulses with an appeal so broad the typical restraints of our societies fall by the wayside.
mysticwhip said:
Scenes for next emmy awards? my picks
Cranston: crying scene or crawl space ending
aaron paul:go karting scene, sound system scene or AA meeting

they got a bunch to choose from.
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I'm thinking "I'm the one who knocks" for Cranston, and either "problem dog" or the scene where he had the gun on Walt in 4.12 for Paul. The fact that they'll both win is guaranteed no matter what, though.
 
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markot

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Ahh, one of the things I loved was how long it took Walt to realise the receptionist was blackmailing him.

"No reputable repairman would charge that much for a broken window"
 
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cacophony

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vatstep said:
I'm thinking "I'm the one who knocks" for Cranston, and either "problem dog" or the scene where he had the gun on Walt in 4.12 for Paul. The fact that they'll both win is guaranteed no matter what, though.
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I would actually rather Giancarlo win this year because he has no shot next year. They both deserve it though.
 
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kehs

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cacophony said:
I would actually rather Giancarlo win this year because he has no shot next year. They both deserve it though.
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We never saw Gus being burried......


Still has a shot for next season.
 
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Cyrillus

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Man, when Jesse
goes to Mexico to teach the cartel how to cook
, I thought he was going to lose his shit, but
his confrontation with the cartel's chemist
, holy shit! Just another example of how awesome this show consistently is!

Not sure if the spoilers are needed or not, but as someone who is just catching up on the show, I thought I'd add them.
 
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cacophony

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Cyrillus said:
Man, when Jesse
goes to Mexico to teach the cartel how to cook
, I thought he was going to lose his shit, but
his confrontation with the cartel's chemist
, holy shit! Just another example of how awesome this show consistently is!

Not sure if the spoilers are needed or not, but as someone who is just catching up on the show, I thought I'd add them.
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Stay the fuck off the internet until you finish the season. Seriously.
 
Grinchy

Grinchy

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It's actually kind of weird to see Jesse with hair now. Same with Walt.

new page? damn...this is a pretty crappy new page post
 
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Cyrillus

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HotHamWater said:
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What is this from? This is the second image(gif) I have seen of Walt dressing up as different characters from the show?

Also, just finished the season tonight...Holy. Shit. I felt like the lily shot was not necessary, but still an amazing finale.
 
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Jack Scofield

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Cyrillus said:
What is this from? This is the second image(gif) I have seen of Walt dressing up as different characters from the show?

Also, just finished the season tonight...Holy. Shit. I felt like the lily shot was not necessary, but still an amazing finale.
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Why was it not necessary? If it wasn't for that shot we would not have known that Walt poisoned Brock. Then it would just be a theory with baseless speculation.
 
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Cyrillus

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Jack Scofield said:
Why was it not necessary? If it wasn't for that shot we would not have known that Walt poisoned Brock. Then it would just be a theory with baseless speculation.
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I felt it wasn't necessary because it seemed pretty obvious from the scene on top of the parking garage. From the fact that it wasn't ricin, to the look on Walt's face when he finds out the boy is going to live, to the audible release Walt has when Jesse leaves. I mean I get that it was the proof and all, but the way it is written it seems obvious before then, and just better executed that way. I preferred the more subtle explanation I guess.
 
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Just finished Season 4. After a week marathon, abandoning studying, social life etc. just to finish the series until now.

And it was worth it.

Man, Breaking Bad is turning into such a deep, thrilling show and even if I'm lttp, I can't see what other show can surpass this masterpiece. The show could've ended with season 4 but Vince knows what he's doing. Walter can't finish this unscathed.
 
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Sanjuro

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I still don't get how any of you can bash Walt and justify Jessie's destructive behavior. He forced a kid to play Sonic Adventure. All Walt did was give him a fucking flower.
 
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