• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Breaking Bad - Season 5 interim thread - the series concludes Summer 2013 on AMC

Status
Not open for further replies.
Season 1 had several "Fuck"s, since they didn't know what channel they were going to be on (hence the topless woman in the pilot). Off the top of my head there's "Fuck you and your eyebrows" and "Grow some fucking balls" (Walt to Jesse in "Crazy Handful of Nothin'".

Beyond that, they're allowed a single verbal Fuck per season, which will be blanked out when it airs.

For reference, they're Walt's "Fuck You" to Gretchen in S2, the infamous IFT in S3, Jesse's "Get the fuck out and never come back" in S4, and Mike's "Shut the fuck up and let me die in peace" in S5.

There was also a bonus written Fuck in Mike's little note to the DEA.

Ah, I didn't start watching the show until around season 4, so I didn't realise hardly any of that aired uncensored. That's ridiculous.

You can say they save their fucks for iconic lines in the series. But I seriously don't understand why it's such a problem to say fuck on TV. As long as it serves a purpose in delivering lines it's only a positive thing if you ask me.

It's hilarious really. AMC have The Walking Dead showing zombies' heads being stomped on, shut in car trunks, and well pretty much any gruesome thing that can happen to a head happening. Yet they can't say 'fuck' or show nudity.

I'm pretty sure Fuck is censored on my blu rays for the later seasons too. They're intact for the first season, but I think after that they're all blanked out. Which is weird because you get the extra adult content anyway (nudity in the pilot, etc)

I honestly thought I had some type of alternate version of the blu rays or something because I can't understand why they would do that.

Damn, I hope this isn't true as I'm gonna be picking up the blurays of each season in a couple of months. I remember hearing that the season 4 bluray first shipped without subtitles for any of the Mexico scenes, but I'm not sure if that was true or not.
 

Hoplatee

Member
I remember hearing that the season 4 bluray first shipped without subtitles for any of the Mexico scenes, but I'm not sure if that was true or not.

Nah, they are there but there is (was?) a problem with activating them. Requires you to select them in the main menu first and then again on the popup menu or something I believe. Been a while since I did read about it but they are there.
 
Damn, I hope this isn't true as I'm gonna be picking up the blurays of each season in a couple of months. I remember hearing that the season 4 bluray first shipped without subtitles for any of the Mexico scenes, but I'm not sure if that was true or not.

The subtitles thing is true but there's a solution for it, I think all you have to do is turn the english subtitles on and then back off, and then the subtitles will show for the spanish dialogue properly
 
I'm still hoping my itunes purchase of season five entitles me to the last eight episodes as well.

It said I was buying season 5 when I got it initially, so it better.
 

Hoplatee

Member
Oh, it looks like Season 3 Deluxe Version does have the IFT line intact. Not sure about Bluray.

Wish I could buy it but loleurope. Extended scenes. Do want.
 

snack

Member
My friend saw Bryan Cranston in Vancouver today. He was sitting right behind her at a coffee shop memorizing his scripts.

Consensus: THIS MAN WORKS HARD
 
Nah, they are there but there is (was?) a problem with activating them. Requires you to select them in the main menu first and then again on the popup menu or something I believe. Been a while since I did read about it but they are there.

The subtitles thing is true but there's a solution for it, I think all you have to do is turn the english subtitles on and then back off, and then the subtitles will show for the spanish dialogue properly

Oh okay, thanks!
It's kinda ridiculous that they didn't notice that before releasing them but the fix seems easy enough.
 
- Deadline: AMC Eyes ‘Breaking Bad’ Spinoff Toplined By Bob Odenkirk
As AMC‘s Breaking Bad is heading into its final eight-episode run this summer, the network and series producer Sony TV are exploring keeping the franchise alive with a spinoff series centered on one of Breaking Bad‘s most recognizable supporting characters, Bob Odenkirk‘s unflappable criminal lawyer Saul Goodman. There are no deals in place yet as the project is in its nascent stages, but I hear it is being conceived by Breaking Bad creator Vince Gilligan and series writer-producer Peter Gould, who created the Saul character together for a Season 2 episode written by Gould. In the episode, titled “Better Call Saul“, Walt (Bryan Cranston) and Jesse (Aaron Paul) hire the flamboyant Goodman after Badger (Matt L. Jones) is caught by the DEA. Goodman, who has been a regular presence on the show since, is a sleazy but highly competent criminal lawyer with a penchant for over-the-top TV commercials in which he uses his signature tagline “Better Call Saul!” Saul has served as Breaking Bad‘s comic relief, which is not surprising given Odenkirk’s strong comedy background. As a result, I hear the potential spinoff is eyed as a comedy, which could be one-hour, but a half-hour format also is being explored.
 

Trick_GSF

Banned
I'll watch it and masturbate while doing so. On your front door. Got a problem with that?
BetterCallSaul-Banner-New-560.jpg
 
- Sepinwall: Better call Saul: Do we want a 'Breaking Bad' spinoff or these alternatives?
But here's the thing: while I might genuinely enjoy many of these shows — or others I've suggested in the past, like an alternate version of "The Walking Dead" built around Lennie James as Morgan — I think in many cases, what makes these characters work so well as side dishes might not when they become the main course. Sometimes, you can take Mary Richards' boss into a new city (and a new genre) and get "Lou Grant," but other times you get things like "Enos" or "AfterM*A*S*H" — or like (as James Poniewozik noted on Twitter) "The X-Files" spin-off "The Lone Gunmen," where Gilligan and a number of other "Breaking Bad" writers worked for 13 episodes. Saul's a richer character than Byers, Frohike and Langly, and Odenkirk better-equipped to carry a show, but it still feels like a case of overestimating a bench player's ability to carry the team on his own.
 
Put me in the hell fucking no camp for any possible spinoffs. Why risk marring the legacy of the show? These final eight episodes should be the last we see of the BB world.
 

Vlad

Member
Put me in the hell fucking no camp for any possible spinoffs. Why risk marring the legacy of the show? These final eight episodes should be the last we see of the BB world.

Ditto. As much as I like Saul, I really don't think he could carry a show by himself. He's a great little breath of comic relief when he shows up in what can be a very dark show. He acts as nice contrast, not a main focus.
 
Put me in the hell fucking no camp for any possible spinoffs. Why risk marring the legacy of the show? These final eight episodes should be the last we see of the BB world.

Yeah. It's enough that the idea of a Saul spinoff sounds amusing - he's a great character - but try to visualize making an actual series out of it.

Just because shows have great characters isn't really a good enough reason to make a spinoff of them. Didn't NBC try to do that with Dwight Schrute after the Office had already burned out pretty much all of their characters?
 

RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus

I really hate that this is being considered (unless it's just a ruse to throw us off the fact that Saul dies somewhere in the final 8 episodes). Saul is good in small doses but he's not a "lead" type character and a 30 minute/hour comedy series starring Saul sounds like a disaster. Too much of a good thing and all of that. I also just really don't want to see a comedy series set in this world.
 
Badger and Skinny Pete work in his office, and often go on wacky misadventures in search of fame and fortune.

And if you watch carefully, Saul's old pal Walter White just might drop by to wish him luck!
 

JesseZao

Member
Anyone set DNS to UK to watch Season 5 on Netflix? I thought I saw somebody post about it, but I have no idea where it was posted and the settings I'm using aren't working.
 

Hoplatee

Member
Anyone set DNS to UK to watch Season 5 on Netflix? I thought I saw somebody post about it, but I have no idea where it was posted and the settings I'm using aren't working.

For what it's worth - 2 people I know also used to watch Netflix that way (UK/US DNS) on the PS3 and it hasn't been working for around a month now for them. Maybe they changed it?

I was about to try it myself as well 2 weeks ago and then I heard it wasn't possible anymore. Oh Netflix, please come to Europe.. :/

We only have HBO Go over here and that selection is so limited.

e) broken english fixed
 

JesseZao

Member
For what it's worth - 2 people I know also used to watch Netflix that way (UK/US DNS) on the PS3 and it hasn't been working for around a month now for them. Maybe they changed it?

I was about to try it myself as well 2 weeks ago and then I heard it wasn't possible anymore. Oh Netflix, please come to Europe.. :/

We only have HBO Go over here and that selection is so limited.

e) broken english fixed

Lame. Well, at least we get AD soon.
 
Not sure how I feel about the Saul thing. If they do end up making a show based on him, I hope it's a prequel and doesn't continue on from the end of Breaking Bad.

For what it's worth - 2 people I know also used to watch Netflix that way (UK/US DNS) on the PS3 and it hasn't been working for around a month now for them. Maybe they changed it?

I was about to try it myself as well 2 weeks ago and then I heard it wasn't possible anymore. Oh Netflix, please come to Europe.. :/

We only have HBO Go over here and that selection is so limited.

e) broken english fixed

I still use the US Netflix in the UK on PS3, and it's working fine.
 

rezuth

Member
I really hate that this is being considered (unless it's just a ruse to throw us off the fact that Saul dies somewhere in the final 8 episodes). Saul is good in small doses but he's not a "lead" type character and a 30 minute/hour comedy series starring Saul sounds like a disaster. Too much of a good thing and all of that. I also just really don't want to see a comedy series set in this world.
Pretty sure they said it would be more of a prequel so it's before BB happens.
 
- Bob Odenkirk on the Breaking Bad Spinoff and Filming the Final Season *some minor spoilers*

- Andy Greenwald with a few thoughts on the spinoff idea in his weekly mailbag:
The most compelling question raised by this surprise headline was almost immediately expressed by Time's James Poniewozik on Twitter: If AMC is suddenly so desperate for more Breaking Bad, why were they in such a hurry to get it off the air just two years ago? The shorter version of that drama was that in the wake of Matthew Weiner's exorbitant contract to continue (and, eventually, end) Mad Men, AMC had to pinch pennies everywhere else, a strategy that led to things like a Kevin Smith reality show as well as Breaking Bad's foreshortened final two seasons. (AMC is pretending that last year's eight episodes link up with this year's eight to form a supersize fifth season. Don't believe the hype.)

Circumstances have changed slightly since then, though they haven't necessarily loosened any purse strings. The dustup with Dish Network last year caused AMC's stock to take a considerable hit, and while The Walking Dead continues to be massively popular it remains (a) expensive and (b) unrepeatable. And I think that, more than anything else, speaks to this sudden change of heart regarding Albuquerque's most amoral attorney. AMC has yet to find new series able to re-create even a fraction of the critical ecstasy engendered by Mad Men and Breaking Bad, and it's no coincidence those remain the only two of its shows to retain their original creative voices. The Walking Dead, despite enormous success, is on its third boss; Rubicon fizzled after its creator was fired early in production; and Hell on Wheels is returning but with an entirely new producing and writing team. The network's drama development — and its reputation — has been so poor of late that The Killing was resurrected for a waterlogged third season. If the rumors of Better Call Saul: The Series are true, staying in business with a major studio like Sony and a frontline creator like Vince Gilligan could send a message to Hollywood that AMC intends to keep its place at the big kids' table.

Now, as to whether the show itself is a good idea, who can say? Bob Odenkirk is a delightful and willing performer and Saul Goodman is one of the best supporting characters on television. That last point is key, of course: Just because someone makes us smile every time he pops up doesn't mean he can support an entire hour of our attention. Knowing that distinction is the difference between Frasier and Joey, and it's one I imagine Gilligan — along with Peter Gould, the Breaking Bad writer responsible for the character's first appearance — can navigate. Of all the characters in Breaking Bad, Saul is both the most portable and the least dependent on the machinations of Vamanos Pest. Having Saul pull up stakes and relocate his skeevy practice to, say, Las Vegas could make for a crackerjack series. It'd have the same desert-scorched desperation as Breaking Bad but with a wider range of potential clients and a little more opportunity for playful razzle-dazzle instead of grim, face-melting acid. A half-hour would probably make the most sense even though that's not a business AMC has pursued in the past. But in the world of Breaking Bad, Saul is exactly the man you call when you want to diversify your holdings. He may be reprehensible but he's there when you need him.
 
Would announcing that potential Saul show mean he survives the series?

Saul's fate has been the most debated by myself and my freinds.
Right now he doesn't have close proximity to any real danger but I've been thinking he becomes sad collateral, and I'm expecting to see lots of that at the end.
 
Would announcing that potential Saul show mean he survives the series?
Sayeth Gilligan:
“No viewer should breathe a sigh of relief that Saul won’t expire by the end of Breaking Bad,” he says. “Everything is on the table… Who knows where Breaking Bad will take us?” Asked about the possibility of a Saul-centric series, Odenkirk seconds: “Saul has got to survive this show first.” He adds with a quip: “And if he doesn’t, then maybe it can be done as a prequel.”
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom