That's a fine way of looking at it.
I interpreted it as Mike simply didn't want his last act on Earth to be one of murder. He was determined to die in peace, rather than having Walt groaning and bleeding out next to him.
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That's a fine way of looking at it.
I interpreted it as Mike simply didn't want his last act on Earth to be one of murder. He was determined to die in peace, rather than having Walt groaning and bleeding out next to him.
EdibleExplosives
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Of course he would have, anyone with half a brain would hand over Walt.
Air Zombie Meat
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I like that. Makes a lot of sense considering his last words.
Or rather, he knows that he will have an awful, horrible end and he didn't want him to have it easy with just a lousy gunshot in the chest.
I felt a bittersweet layer of "Shut the fuck up, Walt", along with them.
Lamel
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It's a damn television show. Don't translate the morality of the show into real life. None of us would do the stuff Walt has done...but it is still entertaining watching him do it.
What are you suggesting, that my meth operations are somehow immoral?
Get your sarcasm detector fixed
I find a little weird how a lot of people feel disdain for Walt (me included) but not as much for Mike, infact, even seem to like the guy.
He had a charming, badass quality, but that in its own way wasn't different from the Heisenberg kind of badassery.
Infact, watching the HBO doc about Kuklinski linked in the Iceman thread, earlier, i couldn't stop thinking about how Mike reminded me of him, minus some details about his personality, because one is a TV show and the other is reality.
He had a charming, badass quality, but that in its own way wasn't different from the Heisenberg kind of badassery.
Infact, watching the HBO doc about Kuklinski linked in the Iceman thread, earlier, i couldn't stop thinking about how Mike reminded me of him, minus some details about his personality, because one is a TV show and the other is reality.
I am now confused by how the show managed to manipulate me into making me like Mike, lol.
Ingueferroque
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Do you guys think they'll be able to tie up the first half of the season well enough, so waiting a year won't be too painful?
Of course not...they will leave us going OHHHHHH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU for a whole year.....
I really need to just pull the frozen cartman south park storyline until next year...
Probably not
I think it's too soon but Hank finding out at the end of episode 8 would be both the best and worst thing ever
Mike's brand of badass was about as far removed from the Heisenberg variety as you could possibly get. Mike actually knows what he's doing and is humble about it, while Walt has had a long string of lucky wins and thinks he's untouchable. Mike didn't go around demanding credit for all his accomplishments, he just did quietly did his job and took good care of the guys working under him. Walt, on the other hand, tends to view anybody that isn't him as expendable, even his own family at this point.
I would have really liked Hank finding out about Walt this half of the season tbh, as I want a decent amount of episodes for the consequences of that to unfold, instead of being crammed into the very end.Probably not
I think it's too soon but Hank finding out at the end of episode 8 would be both the best and worst thing ever
However I don't feel Hank is ready to discover Walt yet, unless something dramatic happens next episode it just doesn't feel close enough.
It's a good question. It wasn't until somebody pointed it out in this thread (defending Walt, natch) that I realized that there's no reason for us to like Mike, per se; we've just seen him in the best light. If the whole show was about Mike, it'd be about a Northeastern police officer who leaves the service and ends up a professional murderer for a meth kingpin. Basically he's already broken about as bad as he's gonna break.
Leaving aside morality, though, the thing about Mike is that he has virtues (patience, caution, perception, self-awareness, even compassion on occasion) in all the places Walt has vices. It's clear that if Walt could actually get along with Mike, they could own the world -- but it can never be, because Walt isn't just a bad guy, he's a fundamentally incompetent bad guy, just like Mike says. So maybe that's part of the liking for Mike that Walt doesn't get -- Mike really is good at his job and quiet about it. I liked Gus too, of course.
Ingueferroque
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At this point the only reason I still watch the show is to see his brother discover the truth.
Mike doesn't just know what he's doing, he knows the consequences of what he's doing. He feels guilt, regret. He treats death as the grave thing that it is and thinks his actions through thoroughly. That's why we liked Mike and dislike Walt despite the former being a storied hitman. Being truly sorry and remorseful requires a person to get over themselves, to stop being selfish. Walt can't do that, his ego is too big. Mike could. For that reason he was far more relatable and sympathetic.
I'm gonna love seeing what discussions people have here after the finale. You know what I mean
Team Walt shall stand steadfast against all unbelievers. To the end!
Yeah thinking about it, it's probably Walt's attitude and arrogance that sells him as insufferable.
TV shows are full of violent, morally ambiguous characters that you still manage to have a soft spot for (Omar, Al Swearengen).
I also think it's the reason why Walt is especially unbearable these laters seasons, at this point he's never ever showing any remorse, like he did in Fly and other earlier episodes.
Mike doesn't show remorse either, but he seem at least more conscious and honest about his actions and his morality (or absence of).
I wouldn't say he feel regret or guilt, he seems pretty methodical and detached.
Though he weights his actions more carefully than Walt and doesn't try to fool himself.
-Pyromaniac-
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The episode will probably end how just about every episode ends. Walt doing something insane. The anti-walt folk will continue calling him a monster psycho sociopath.
The Walt fans will be cheering at the craziness that has taken place.
Sunday shall be great.
The Walt fans will be cheering at the craziness that has taken place.
Sunday shall be great.
Snowden's Secret
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Stopping by the thread for a quick story:
I work at a small firm of about 20 people, average age is about 29. We signed a new client today named Walter White so I replied to all users with "Heisenberg!" and attached the artist rendition used in the show.
No one got it. Totally killed my groove today.
I work at a small firm of about 20 people, average age is about 29. We signed a new client today named Walter White so I replied to all users with "Heisenberg!" and attached the artist rendition used in the show.
No one got it. Totally killed my groove today.
Maybe he'll pull a hercules and slaughter his family.
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Walt's gonna poison Skyler's food. Her not being the wiser, lovingly feeds Holly a bit of her mashed potatoes or whatever. Yup.
Once again, hire me Vince!
Forsaken82
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So... How does this all happen under Hank's roof future teleplay writer??
Walt gets cocky and overplays his hand, decides to pull the sadsack husband card one more time and says that divorce is inevitable, convinces Hank to let him spend the day with Holly.
Walt being the sick son of a bitch he is, decides to take Skyler out with Holly being the last thing she sees. Of course when dinner starts, hilarity ensues.
Walt being the sick son of a bitch he is, decides to take Skyler out with Holly being the last thing she sees. Of course when dinner starts, hilarity ensues.
Damn, I'm good.
Lamel
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I mean I can understand that you find his morals detestable along with his scummy actions...however you really don't find all that stuff Walt does exciting/exhilarating/scary, in the end making for great television. THAT'S the reason people have been on team walt for so long...he does the best stuff.
blame space
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you guys.. we're already almost there..
Skyler forces Walt to move out again so she can bring the kids back home, but Walt poisons Holly with the ricin before he leaves. When Holly gets sick a few days later, it will look like Skyler was too busy getting hammered to prevent her daughter from ingesting some sort of household poison.
Don't post that it still hurts bro
triplestation
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Is Kaylee still getting the money? Or has it been confiscated by good for nothing Gomez?
TrAcEr_x90
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too soon to post that gif 
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Walt needs to stop wearing that jacket.
I was thinking it wasnt since it was a one time drop off, but it was probably confiscated, especially since the lawyer told cake lady about it.
I was thinking it wasnt since it was a one time drop off, but it was probably confiscated, especially since the lawyer told cake lady about it.
Most iconic super villains have a costume when doing criminal deeds in public. This is Walt's.
-Pyromaniac-
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Kaylee isn't getting shit. Saul mentioned the money was taken again.
Lamel
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Khaki Man?
triplestation
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Gomez you fucking asshat..
Shadowlink
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Khaki Man is the muscle, Heisenberg is the Brains. A Dr.Jekyll/Mr.Hyde thing, if you will(I have never read any Dr.Jekyll stories, I have no idea if that comparison is accurate or not).
chalkitdown1
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About Kaylee getting the money; The lawyer didn't have anything for Kaylee's storage box that day, it was a one time delivery only, the previous time, so maybe the DEA know nothing about it? I doubt they have the authority to open all the lockers to check, just the ones for the 9 guys he was paying off.
There's still hope.
There's still hope.
Regardless of if it was a one-time drop or not, it's still known that he put money into that box. I'm assuming the bank keeps a record of that sort of thing, and the box has to be in somebody's name, either Kaylee's or the lawyer's. Even if the DEA didn't get access to any of the boxes, once the lawyer flipped, I imagine it would have been easy to get a warrant for them.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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The bank lady knew about it.
Unless she decided not to tell anyone, erased it from the records, and stole the child's blood money for herself. :x
Unless she decided not to tell anyone, erased it from the records, and stole the child's blood money for herself. :x
chalkitdown1
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But we don't know that......
Believe.
Believe.
I don't know. If they went by only the boxes he opened the day he was caught, that would only be one box. More likely they're using tape evidence of prior visits or the bank teller's memory to get warrants to open all the boxes.
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