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BREXIT MAFIA | Pro-Having Our Lynch And Pro-Eating It
- Thread starter cabot
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Nah, I'm saying milk might've been try to prevent himself from looking like scum by pulling stuff that would make it seem too obvious that someone was scum. If polter is scum then he's in on it but that's yet to be decided.
You say that like the role is something designed to make us get you out of annoyance but isn't actually scum. Does it have any benefits or is it a "every 3 posts flail around like a drunken madman" situation? Blink once for yes and twice for no.
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I don't believe nin's claim.
VOTE: nin1000
This isn't the same as saying I believe Ouro's, I just find nin's roleclaim implausible. What would it meaningfully add to the game to have a role that exists as nin claims his does?
VOTE: nin1000
This isn't the same as saying I believe Ouro's, I just find nin's roleclaim implausible. What would it meaningfully add to the game to have a role that exists as nin claims his does?
I agree that between nin and ouro's, nin's claim is the iffiest by far. That's where I'd vote if that's what this day comes down to, though I'm not convinced that's what should happen. If they both are negative utility roles for real we're gonna almost assuredly waste 2 day phases in a row lynching them. Though then again I have no idea how we'd avoid that short of a cop checking them and announcing their results which would almost be a waste of a cop 
I feel like whether a role provides value to a game or not is a weird argument to make when we don't have a decent picture of the game yet.
I feel like whether a role provides value to a game or not is a weird argument to make when we don't have a decent picture of the game yet.
Nin this is nonsense. Yesterday you said "don't kill me I'm special" as if you had some kind of useful PR. Today you claim your role is only a negative.
It doesn't make sense as a role either. What could the role PM even say? "Act like a politician"? And a 50/50... Just what.
VOTE: nin1000
Also, major MAJOR side eye at anyone trying to frame this as Ouro Vs nin. They're both dodgy claims but apart from that they're totally unrelated.
It doesn't make sense as a role either. What could the role PM even say? "Act like a politician"? And a 50/50... Just what.
VOTE: nin1000
Also, major MAJOR side eye at anyone trying to frame this as Ouro Vs nin. They're both dodgy claims but apart from that they're totally unrelated.
Poltergust
Member
I think that it's because the possibility of both of them telling the truth seems relatively low.
Sure, but not because they are actually related. It's a dangerous idea because it carries the implication that exactly one is telling the truth and one is lying.
I don't necessarily see us as related, but there is something to say about the possibility of two passive negative-utility roles on the town side. I'm not saying it's not possible, it's just kind of ridiculous if it is.
I do wonder what hole kingkitty slunk off to, as well.
spoiled milk (1)
zippedpinhead 524
flame_ac (0)
*splinter 528 (717)
fireblend 536 (651)
ourobolus 561 (587)
spoiled milk 574 (575)
ourobolus (2)
spoiled milk 533 (574)
kingkitty 562
spoiled milk 575 (652)
crab 622 (715)
ccs 710
poltergust (0)
ourobolus 537 (561)
ourobolus 587 (675)
kawl_usc (1)
fireblend 651
zeemumu (1)
nin1000 663
nin1000 (4)
ourobolus 675
spoiled milk 679
crab 715
*splinter 717
Number of posts:
Ouro: 1
Everyone else: waaaay too many
zippedpinhead 524
flame_ac (0)
ourobolus (2)
kingkitty 562
ccs 710
poltergust (0)
kawl_usc (1)
fireblend 651
zeemumu (1)
nin1000 663
nin1000 (4)
ourobolus 675
spoiled milk 679
crab 715
*splinter 717
Number of posts:
Ouro: 1
Everyone else: waaaay too many
What's the turbo number? 8? 9?
This is a great point. Nin can say he was trying to bait mafia into killing him but that's nonsense, he might as well have baited a doctor as well.
Should be 9. 16 players left.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
I have an uneasiness lynching nin. I can't articulate why.
If you're worried about some sort of lynch bomb I can vote wherever you like in the rotation.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
DAY 2 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
nin1000 (4)
Ourobolus 675
Spoiled Milk 679
Crab 715
*Splinter 717
Ourobolus (2)
Spoiled Milk 533 574
kingkitty 562
Spoiled Milk 575 652
Crab 622 715
CCS 710
Spoiled Milk (1)
Zippedpinhead 524
zeemumu (1)
nin1000 663
Kawl_USC (1)
Fireblend 651
Flame_AC (0):*Splinter 528 717, Fireblend 536 651, Ourobolus 561 587, Spoiled Milk 574 575
Poltergust (0):Ourobolus 537 561, Ourobolus 587 675
No active vote for Day 2: backslashbunny, Flame_AC, Gorlak, Kalor, Kawl_USC, Poltergust, zeemumu
Day 2 Postcount: *Splinter 19, backslashbunny 8, CCS 5, Crab 6, Fireblend 21, Flame_AC 4, Gorlak 0, Kalor 6, Kawl_USC 9, kingkitty 3, nin1000 10, Ourobolus 61, Poltergust 26, Spoiled Milk 18, zeemumu 4, Zippedpinhead 9
Day 2 ends:
Automated vote tally here
9 votes for majority
nin1000 (4)
Ourobolus 675
Spoiled Milk 679
Crab 715
*Splinter 717
Ourobolus (2)
kingkitty 562
CCS 710
Spoiled Milk (1)
Zippedpinhead 524
zeemumu (1)
nin1000 663
Kawl_USC (1)
Fireblend 651
Flame_AC (0):
Poltergust (0):
No active vote for Day 2: backslashbunny, Flame_AC, Gorlak, Kalor, Kawl_USC, Poltergust, zeemumu
Day 2 Postcount: *Splinter 19, backslashbunny 8, CCS 5, Crab 6, Fireblend 21, Flame_AC 4, Gorlak 0, Kalor 6, Kawl_USC 9, kingkitty 3, nin1000 10, Ourobolus 61, Poltergust 26, Spoiled Milk 18, zeemumu 4, Zippedpinhead 9
Day 2 ends:
Automated vote tally here
9 votes for majority
lean ok:
splinter - Relatively contributive, hasn't made my soup hot with suspicion yet. I guess Bat's death also made me feel slightly better about splinter. Considering the whole batsplits insinuation by Ouro, perhaps scum decided to pursue this suspicion themselves. Or maybe that's what scum wants you to think. But for now it makes me feel a little better.
crab - In this day phase, I find myself agreeing a lot with what crab is cooking. And I at least understand where he's coming from in his opinions in Day 1. Maybe he gave off a bit of a flippant vibe early on in Day 1, but he hasn't really done anything yet to make my burger hot with suspicion. I feel ok about him, for now.
fireblend - But only really if Nin is scum. Because I don't think scum is that bold to have two (out of a possible 3 or 4) of their players do this politician type goobly glob roleplay. Although it doesn't discount the possibility that fireblend is a neutral who decided to do goobly glob roleplay.
lean slightly ok for now:
spoiled milk - Considering it was Day 1, I thought it was worthwhile to "trust, but verify" spoiled milk's hints and wink winks. Bold scumlord doing his thing while rest of scum can't talk him off the ledge because of the no Day chat rule? Bold townie being very bold and boldly bold? Could we truly confirm crab? Who is Michael Gove? But at the end of the Day 1 phase, the whole crab thing didn't amount to anything worthwhile, at least according to milk's explanation. And then he didn't seem to put much of a fight against his demise. Of course it might just be the reality that he was moving that day, which can affect scum and non-scum alike, but even then I'd feel like scum would at least give it a slightly better try to stop their lynch. Especially after a huge gambit. I don't feel the urge to kill milk at the moment.
lean neutral:
zeezeemuu - Started off Day 1 not making real posts, but ended the phase making some real non-joke phase posts, even if one of those posts was mistaking me for a new player. It's not hard for scum to pull but at the moment I feel the urge to not throw zee into the volcano.
lean feel super empty towards and by gut feeling there's probably at least one scum in there (will try to give at least some of this batch a stronger read by tomorrow night):
backslashbunny
CCS
kalor
flame_ac
and whoever else I didn't list
lean slightly not ok:
Poltergust - At least from my skimming, Polter did a fair share of game mechanics talk, quoting of mafia wiki, and using some random number generator to pick an lynch inactive target. It all sort of rang my scum bells. Easy stuff for scum to do while looking like they're doing helpful things. Of course, this could just be things Poltergust likes to do naturally, scum or not scum. But it's still something that slightly heats my burger of suspicion.
lean NOT OK:
nin - What a terrible role and yet a part of my brain says "It's cabot's game". But it does seem a bit terrible that town (supposedly) gets a miller AND a player whose existence is to distract the town with roleplaying (or risk death). If Ouro flips scum, I might feel better moving nin to at least lean neutral.
Ouro - I think the best strategy to deal with a miller claim is to skin the miller alive as soon as possible.
splinter - Relatively contributive, hasn't made my soup hot with suspicion yet. I guess Bat's death also made me feel slightly better about splinter. Considering the whole batsplits insinuation by Ouro, perhaps scum decided to pursue this suspicion themselves. Or maybe that's what scum wants you to think. But for now it makes me feel a little better.
crab - In this day phase, I find myself agreeing a lot with what crab is cooking. And I at least understand where he's coming from in his opinions in Day 1. Maybe he gave off a bit of a flippant vibe early on in Day 1, but he hasn't really done anything yet to make my burger hot with suspicion. I feel ok about him, for now.
fireblend - But only really if Nin is scum. Because I don't think scum is that bold to have two (out of a possible 3 or 4) of their players do this politician type goobly glob roleplay. Although it doesn't discount the possibility that fireblend is a neutral who decided to do goobly glob roleplay.
lean slightly ok for now:
spoiled milk - Considering it was Day 1, I thought it was worthwhile to "trust, but verify" spoiled milk's hints and wink winks. Bold scumlord doing his thing while rest of scum can't talk him off the ledge because of the no Day chat rule? Bold townie being very bold and boldly bold? Could we truly confirm crab? Who is Michael Gove? But at the end of the Day 1 phase, the whole crab thing didn't amount to anything worthwhile, at least according to milk's explanation. And then he didn't seem to put much of a fight against his demise. Of course it might just be the reality that he was moving that day, which can affect scum and non-scum alike, but even then I'd feel like scum would at least give it a slightly better try to stop their lynch. Especially after a huge gambit. I don't feel the urge to kill milk at the moment.
lean neutral:
zeezeemuu - Started off Day 1 not making real posts, but ended the phase making some real non-joke phase posts, even if one of those posts was mistaking me for a new player. It's not hard for scum to pull but at the moment I feel the urge to not throw zee into the volcano.
lean feel super empty towards and by gut feeling there's probably at least one scum in there (will try to give at least some of this batch a stronger read by tomorrow night):
backslashbunny
CCS
kalor
flame_ac
and whoever else I didn't list
lean slightly not ok:
Poltergust - At least from my skimming, Polter did a fair share of game mechanics talk, quoting of mafia wiki, and using some random number generator to pick an lynch inactive target. It all sort of rang my scum bells. Easy stuff for scum to do while looking like they're doing helpful things. Of course, this could just be things Poltergust likes to do naturally, scum or not scum. But it's still something that slightly heats my burger of suspicion.
lean NOT OK:
nin - What a terrible role and yet a part of my brain says "It's cabot's game". But it does seem a bit terrible that town (supposedly) gets a miller AND a player whose existence is to distract the town with roleplaying (or risk death). If Ouro flips scum, I might feel better moving nin to at least lean neutral.
Ouro - I think the best strategy to deal with a miller claim is to skin the miller alive as soon as possible.
Just so this is written somewhere unambiguously, mine was some silly role playing that I couldn't even keep up for the first day, motivated by boredom more than anything. Don't read into that, I feel like I've said enough so far that if you're basing your read of me off of that, you're doing it wrong.
Well, I wanted to say no, of course not but then again Everyone qualifies as lynch candidate. I wanted to leave every option open. Since gafia is known to ignore everything and everyone and for lynching the wrong People. I dont want this to happen ( even though I feel like this will do lol )
Can you give me your thoughts on other players please ?
Sorry. I wasn't expecting to be away from this for 20 hrs straight.
In catching up, I know the wave of suspicion is currently off of me, but on my comment about me/Fireblend looking teamy when I voted Poltergust:
It was just a cheeky comment made in passing as I started my post just after Fireblend's vote. Ideally, my vote would have followed immediately but Fireblend changed directions almost immediately and so it came off kind of weird as my vote followed this change.
In catching up, I know the wave of suspicion is currently off of me, but on my comment about me/Fireblend looking teamy when I voted Poltergust:
It was just a cheeky comment made in passing as I started my post just after Fireblend's vote. Ideally, my vote would have followed immediately but Fireblend changed directions almost immediately and so it came off kind of weird as my vote followed this change.
I...did? Wait have you been ignoring every post I've made in here?
Poltergust
Member
I'll be spending time at Disney World with my family this weekend, so expect my activity to drop significantly.
Ok ok ok ok.
I will have go come clean after all since this took of in ways I never anticipated. Lol.
It was a not so great and not so thought out claim I did in order to please my inner self.
I seemed a way to prolong this stick I made up on day one.
Like Rick James would say.
I was having too much fun.
I want to come clean now in order to move on and try to actually get some scum, since I for now trust ouro to be the miller he claims to be. It would be an easy thing to lynch me off today but it would be a wasted one.
I know there is a strong argument against me that if you kill me you all can move on and play the game it was intended to be but it would be a loss since I am here to play lol.
Let me finish with this
Spoiled Milk
Banned
We are definitely lynching nin today.
Would rather see someone else but then again it's all on me.
Oh for God's sake. So tempted to lynch nin out of sheer frustration.
But since that's not productive, let's look elsewhere.
For starters, I know buy Ouro's Miller claim:
UNVOTE
Ouro, who are your top town?
I'm still not entirely convinced Spoiled Milk isn't scum, but probably not helpful if I kept tunneling. I'm willing to overlook BSB not having a vote down at ens of the day yesterday as they were completely inactive all say, but Zipped, why no vote?
I also do suspect that Kalor may have been scum trying to look pro-town by breaking the tie in a town/town lynch, but I'd want more evidence of the alignments of Spoiled Milk abs Flame before going too far down that road.
But since that's not productive, let's look elsewhere.
For starters, I know buy Ouro's Miller claim:
UNVOTE
Ouro, who are your top town?
I'm still not entirely convinced Spoiled Milk isn't scum, but probably not helpful if I kept tunneling. I'm willing to overlook BSB not having a vote down at ens of the day yesterday as they were completely inactive all say, but Zipped, why no vote?
I also do suspect that Kalor may have been scum trying to look pro-town by breaking the tie in a town/town lynch, but I'd want more evidence of the alignments of Spoiled Milk abs Flame before going too far down that road.
Vote: Crab
Looking through his posts something is bothering me and I can't put my finger on what it is exactly. Both votes for nin boiled down to him not seeing nin as useful for the game. I could understand that reasoning on Day 1 but we shouldn't be lynching someone on Day 2 just because their role isn't useful, especially after the tie yesterday.
Looking through his posts something is bothering me and I can't put my finger on what it is exactly. Both votes for nin boiled down to him not seeing nin as useful for the game. I could understand that reasoning on Day 1 but we shouldn't be lynching someone on Day 2 just because their role isn't useful, especially after the tie yesterday.
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I'm still quite happy lynching nin and don't fancy moving my vote. Worst case scenario: he's a town player that hinders more than helps, best case scenario: he's scum. Balance of probabilities it's the best lynch available to us right now.
I think you misunderstand, I'm saying it feels unlikely two scum would try to do the same type of politician roleplaying (and seemingly only the two out 17 players). Of course the difference is nin's excuse is that he's role bound, and your excuse is that you were bored. But that's not really the point.
But now Nin's excuse is boredom as well LOL.
LOL
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LOL...
Zippedpinhead
Member
Don't liars get lynched? I thought that was standard procedure?
Nin makes a case to keep himself but I still don't understand the gambit at all.
Nin makes a case to keep himself but I still don't understand the gambit at all.
I agree Nin's got to go, unfortunately. How can anyone "not anticipate" the consequences of faking a roleclaim as a townie?
Shame on you for delaying us a whole day-night phase if you're townie =/
Also
Shame on you for delaying us a whole day-night phase if you're townie =/
Also
Not sure how to read this, are you saying you didn't think Crab had an opinion in Day 1?
I don't feel like he's done much of anything other than being flippant and sharing opinions that feel like statements without opening for discussion. It almost feels like he's talking to himself.
I agree on the flippant, can't say I agree on the "opinions that feel like statements". Feels like a slight stretch. He made some (in retrospect) good points about the uselessness of the Milk lynch (which I'm leaning towards Milk indeed being more town than non-scum today, despite my earlier verify stance of Day 1). And then picking Nin for the kill, which we now see today was a streets ahead idea. The only time it seemed like he was talking to himself on Day 1 was the "idgaf about Michael Gove" thing. And even then it wasn't that out of the blue. My initial lean-ok feel might change in the future if I start feeling like crab's cooking is getting the wrong seasoning, but for now I feel fine putting him in the lean OK pile.
Anyways,
We kill the miller now while the burger is fresh, and not kill the miller when we're in mylo.
Hopefully you'll flip scum. If not, that's not great, but it's fine considering we still didn't actually do a proper lynch yet (besides the maf kill from last night). Ideally you should have died Day 1.
Zippedpinhead
Member
But why? Why gambit on day 2? It's the kind of thing you breadcrumb and then play on day 4.
It's just off. The whole game seems off. Like scum is actively trying to make us tie
I mean Nin is more experienced than an explanation of 'facing pressure and so gave up the jig'. If Nin is really playing the way I theorized, then it makes more sense to be up front about having a role out there for scum to potentially target instead of them shooting 'blindly' at other roles.
The problem with the idea of Nin wanting to draw a night kill is that he was getting suspicion from town by doing it. Scum would have no reason to target him while people were suspecting him. They would just wait and hope that he gets lynched eventually.
Poltergust
Member
Ugh, if nin turns out to be town then he and Dusk Soldier should totally be BFFs.
STOP
LYING
TO
TOWN
IF
YOU
ARE
TOWN
STOP
LYING
TO
TOWN
IF
YOU
ARE
TOWN
Furthermore, his supposed role did nothing to benefit town. Why would scum target someone who would be useless half the time?
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