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Bush Admin. FLAGRANTLY violates 4th Geneva Convention

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MIMIC

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I fucking hate this country (well, not the country, but our leaders who perpetuate the curruption that this country is notorious for).

This is straight-up bullshit:

At the request of the CIA, the Justice Department drafted a confidential memo that authorizes the agency to transfer detainees out of Iraq for interrogation — a practice that international legal specialists say contravenes the Geneva Conventions.

One intelligence official familiar with the operation said the CIA has used the March draft memo as legal support for secretly transporting as many as a dozen detainees out of Iraq in the last six months. The agency has concealed the detainees from the International Red Cross and other authorities, the official said.

The draft opinion, written by the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel and dated March 19, 2004, refers to both Iraqi citizens and foreigners in Iraq, who the memo says are protected by the treaty. It permits the CIA to take Iraqis out of the country to be interrogated for a "brief but not indefinite period." It also says the CIA can permanently remove persons deemed to be "illegal aliens" under "local immigration law."

Some specialists in international law say the opinion amounts to a reinterpretation of one of the most basic rights of Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, which protects civilians during wartime and occupation, including insurgents who were not part of Iraq's military.

The treaty prohibits the "ndividual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory . . . regardless of their motive."

The 1949 treaty notes that a violation of this particular provision constitutes a "grave breach" of the accord, and thus a "war crime" under U.S. federal law, according to a footnote in the Justice Department draft.
"For these reasons," the footnote reads, "we recommend that any contemplated relocations of 'protected persons' from Iraq to facilitate interrogation be carefully evaluated for compliance with Article 49 on a case by case basis." It says that even persons removed from Iraq retain the treaty's protections, which would include humane treatment and access to international monitors.

MSNBC/Washington Post

Newsflash! The Patriot Act doesn't apply to International Law! You can't just edit the Geneva Convention.

What fucking bullshit. Bush is a fucking war criminal.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
And guess what?! We're looking at four more years of this! :X
 
Interesting article on how they came up with some of their Guantánamo Bay policies, including how they were going to ignore international treaties that the US signed.

In early November 2001, with Americans still staggered by the Sept. 11 attacks, a small group of White House officials worked in great secrecy to devise a new system of justice for the new war they had declared on terrorism.

Determined to deal aggressively with the terrorists they expected to capture, the officials bypassed the federal courts and their constitutional guarantees, giving the military the authority to detain foreign suspects indefinitely and prosecute them in tribunals not used since World War II.

The plan was considered so sensitive that senior White House officials kept its final details hidden from the president's national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, and the secretary of state, Colin L. Powell, officials said. It was so urgent, some of those involved said, that they hardly thought of consulting Congress.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/24/i...f44aff040a0217ce&ex=1256270400&partner=rssnyt
 

MetatronM

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I just...don't understand how the Bush administration could possibly have NO concern whatsoever for the international community. I mean, I understand not wanting to base policy around international opinions. That's fine. But to basically pretend the rest of the world either doesn't exist or exists solely to serve the United States' interests is dangerous and insane.
 
Yeah...International law is stupid. The only law that matters are the laws of God...our Allah...and he has shown these laws to Bush...that is all we need.

Not the International Criminal Court because Bush brings all International Criminals to Justice under the name of God. No Geneva conventions or UN charter to be beholden to because Bush knows better than to put his faith in something that all the great nations agreed upon, for all the great nations are without God and thus their opinions don't matter.

Seriously...things will be getting interesting in the USA very soon if Kerry is not President.
 

Mandark

Small balls, big fun!
Look, after the election we'll have an International Law thread. It'll be four pages long and have lots of links and quotes and personal attacks and stuff. I promise.
 
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