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[Tommie Hu$tle]

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[kevm3]

*sighs
greedy motherfuckers.

 

[Lara]

It's not just Bush. The problem goes much deeper than that. It's Americans. American culture. Americans in general don't wish to pay higher levels of income tax (which happens to be the most effective means of wealth distribution). The concept of a publicly subsidised university system in toto is surely anathema to the vast majority of them.

Why? Greed. Selfishness.

With or without Bush, they still suffer the existence of outrageously high tuition fees at 'private' universities, and high tuition fees at many 'public' universities. That in itself is a travesty.

This latest move is just a minor adjustment to a scale that is already tilted massively to the right.

 

[White Man]

Someone needs to give me advice on getting baqck into school. I'll be betraying my French and Irish heritage if I don't have some sort of art degree.

 

[Chipopo]

Someone needs to give me advice on getting baqck into school. I'll be betraying my French and Irish heritage if I don't have some sort of art degree.

Go to school in Canada. Great education and cheap as well, and the standards for exceptance are lower too, I believe.

If I don't get in to my top choice college in a couple months, I'll be more then happy with my Canadian safety schools.

 

[demon]

Sounds great. I have a full scholarship so I don't pay for anything. Keep jackin the tuition up!!! :lol

You are what's wrong with America.

 

[White Man]

Go to school in Canada. Great education and cheap as well, and the standards for exceptance are lower too, I believe.

Don't you need a pretty good reason to emigrate to Canada? Or money? I'm a poor, bohemian slag. All I do is work my not awful, but godawful job and teach my buddies how to properly deconstruct regional North American biases towards particular breakfast cereals.

 

[Chipopo]

http://www.campusaccess.com/campus_web/educ/international.htm

Only once you have been accepted to study at an eligible Canadian institution you can begin your application for a student authorization i.e Student Study Visa. Your application will go through Citizenship and Immigration Canada, by way of your nearest Canadian embassy, high commission or consulate. The best place to get all your information on this procedure is directly from Immigration Canada's web site: www.cic.gc.ca. Citizens of many countries require a visitor's visa, as well as the student authorization to study in Canada. A listing of those countries is available at Immigration Canada's web site.

Requirements: These can vary widely, but generally first degree or diploma programs ask for proof of completion of a number of high school credits or equivalents. This final phrase, "or equivalents" is the area where most international students must fit in. You will be required to show proof that your previous education covers the same scope that high schools in that particular province, which usually means good reading and writing skills, some mathematics, some study of science and perhaps even creative arts, depending on which program you would like to apply to

Many of the colleges I plan on applying to only ask for your highschool diploma.

According to the Association of Universities and Colleges of Canada, the average international undergraduate student pays only $7 100 per academic year, which in combination with lower costs of living, make Canada an inexpensive place to study.

 

[White Man]

Perhaps I should do some research. In the US, no matter what costs are, I could student loan my way to academia. I don't know how student loans work in Canada.

What schools in Canada have strong lit, language, philosophy, and especially english programs? I could send out some emails tomorrow.

 

[Chipopo]

The most well known Canadian college, McGil, is commonly referred to as "the Harvard of Canada", only without the streneous admissions policies. Start there. However if you're looking for a liberal-artsy environment, where the classes are small and you can have critical discussion, Canada probably isn't your best option. We're talking lectures in big lecture halls here.

After that, well, I still have lots of research on the subject to do. My counselor only clued me in on this most fantastical Canadian college process in the past couple days, so I haven't had the time to sift through the fog. I'll let you know when I get to it.

 

[White Man]

Wait. . .you aren't even Canadian? This is like getting a fantastically hot hooker and finding out it's a trannie!

 

[Chipopo]

....In a good way, no?

Yours truly,
Chipopo
New York City, The Bronx


P.S. It doesn't really make a difference. All the information I've given you is in regaurd to international students coming in to Canada. There are some very real advantages worth taking a look at. And it's becoming more and more common for American students to go to Canadian college.

 

[White Man]

You'd have to be from the midwest or south to NOT love trannies, dude. GAF accepts your lifestyle choice.

Now let's get the f' into Canada before they build a wall.

 

[CaptainABAB]

No offense guys, but let's get some facts straight...

1. "total federal allocations for Pell Grants will increase by $458 million to maintain soaring demand"

"Like other boosts to the Pell program in recent years, this one will be devoured entirely by increased demand. And the maximum grant will be frozen at $4,050, despite sharp increases in college costs.

The grant amounts are not growing because more people are seeking them. The number of students receiving Pell Grants has increased 37 percent in the last decade to more than 5 million, according to the College Board."

Which means that the total $ amount goes up but is not keeping up with the increasing # of students who need one. And thats a program that already has a $4 Billion cumulative shortfall.

2. The whole issue surrounds the updating of the tax table. Thats it. They are still using 1988 numbers when families paid more in taxes, so those families get more in Pell Grants. The Education Dept are required by law to update it every year but Congress allowed the dept to still use the old numbers last year. This year, I guess Congress doesn't want to block them from updating the tax table numbers they use.

Now, I still think that compared to how much is spent in Iraq that the 300 Million is chump change, and this is one of our most important investments. On the other hand, people here need to determine who is really going to decide this (their state reps) and contact them - not bash Bush in some forum.

I think the tax #'s should be updated but that the grants amounts also need to be updated to keep up with inflation, rising school costs, etc.


http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/10258424.htm?1c

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20041126-111217-8374r.htm

"President Bush has said he wants to increase the maximum yearly Pell grant to $5,100. "

 

[shoplifter]

Now, I still think that compared to how much is spent in Iraq that the 300 Million is chump change, and this is one of our most important investments. On the other hand, people here need to determine who is really going to decide this (their state reps) and contact them - not bash Bush in some forum.

You're right, but like I said, Bush has the opportunity to take a stand on this.

I predict he won't.

 

[Azih]

The most well known Canadian college, McGil, is commonly referred to as "the Harvard of Canada", only without the streneous admissions policies. Start there. However if you're looking for a liberal-artsy environment, where the classes are small and you can have critical discussion, Canada probably isn't your best option. We're talking lectures in big lecture halls here.

After that, well, I still have lots of research on the subject to do. My counselor only clued me in on this most fantastical Canadian college process in the past couple days, so I haven't had the time to sift through the fog. I'll let you know when I get to it.

McGill? most well known? Pfui, UofT all the way.

www.utoronto.ca